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[thomasgrant]

This is no bull!  Jay Leno say McDonald's is experimenting with robots to take your order and serve you.

"You want fries with that?"

Sam

Hmmm, interesting.
Have you seen Battle Star Galactica?
The new series?
Won heaps of Emmys.
The last seen was of the modern earth.
And a tv with MSNBC playing on it.
With a few toy robots.

I think, therefore I am. (Asimof)

The Law of Robots.

Ohh I forgot how they go again.

Something about not harming humans.

[super-roulette]

What is your profit now...€27...$35 after conversion? So you've almost doubled your deposit, this is all good and well but it's only a 12.5% return on your total investment of $280 to get the bot up and running. Seeing a buck here and there is pointless. Get back to us when you've got at least a 700% return on investment. And tell us how how long it takes, to see whether it is worth doubling our electricity bills to let this bot run for hours and hours.

Oh nice answer, very clever and interesting, without a doubt.

Are you killing me ? It's a software, not a metal bot lol.

I know why you don't like bot now, you thinked it was a metal one in front of your computer, taking your place !

As you, I don't want this kind of bot too...  

N6 judging the success of Tom's sessions so far based purely on a dollar amount is not an accurate determinant of success or otherwise. You need to look at how many units he has progressed forward from his starting balance. He only started with a 30 Euro bankroll and this neccesitated that his unit size be kept low. He has only played with 0.10, 0.02 and 0.01 unit sizes - mainly 0.02 So 27.50 Euro profit is actually 1375 units of profit, which in my mind is pretty good going. As his bankroll increases he can safely increase his betting unit size.

If he had started with 1000 Euro as his initial investment and played 0.50c units well he would still be 1375 units up but now he has won 687.50 Euros. This would cover his outlay well and truly, plus eave enough for a small diesel generator and fuel   

Regards
Matt

[Number Six]

N6 judging the success of Tom's sessions so far based purely on a dollar amount is not an accurate determinant of success or otherwise. You need to look at how many units he has progressed forward from his starting balance. He only started with a 30 Euro bankroll and this neccesitated that his unit size be kept low. He has only played with 0.10, 0.02 and 0.01 unit sizes - mainly 0.02 So 27.50 Euro profit is actually 1375 units of profit, which in my mind is pretty good going. As his bankroll increases he can safely increase his betting unit size.

If he had started with 1000 Euro as his initial investment and played 0.50c units well he would still be 1375 units up but now he has won 687.50 Euros. This would cover his outlay well and truly, plus eave enough for a small diesel generator and fuel   

Regards
Matt

It's based on a true percentage return of the investment. The rest is ifs and buts. He hasn't won 687.50 euros and he didn't start with a 1000 balance. I know what you're saying but it's just a forecast and has no bearing on the monetary facts. For the sake of the thread I'll stop posting here now, and I'd better carry on looking for my mind - as Thomas Grant clearly alluded to the notion that I haven't got one.

Regarding this:

Oh nice answer, very clever and interesting, without a doubt.

Are you killing me ? It's a software, not a metal bot lol.

I know why you don't like bot now, you thinked it was a metal one in front of your computer, taking your place !

As you, I don't want this kind of bot too... 

English may not be your second language but I still reserve the right to call this response laughable and absurd. Since when were computers self-powering? Next time you're at school ask one of your teachers about economic efficiency.

[super-roulette]

It's based on a true percentage return of the investment. The rest is ifs and buts. He hasn't won 687.50 euros and he didn't start with a 1000 balance. I know what you're saying but it's just a forecast and has no bearing on the monetary facts. For the sake of the thread I'll stop posting here now, and I'd better carry on looking for my mind - as Thomas Grant clearly alluded to the notion that I haven't got one.

N6 I certainly dont think you have lost your mind. Your input is welcomed and it is obvious you have an excellent grasp of what the software is attemting to do, whether it can in fact do it - that is where our opnions seem to differ.

Regards
Matt

[Tangram]

N6 judging the success of Tom's sessions so far based purely on a dollar amount is not an accurate determinant of success or otherwise. You need to look at how many units he has progressed forward from his starting balance. He only started with a 30 Euro bankroll and this neccesitated that his unit size be kept low. He has only played with 0.10, 0.02 and 0.01 unit sizes - mainly 0.02 So 27.50 Euro profit is actually 1375 units of profit, which in my mind is pretty good going. As his bankroll increases he can safely increase his betting unit size.

It's based on a true percentage return of the investment. The rest is ifs and buts. He hasn't won 687.50 euros and he didn't start with a 1000 balance. I know what you're saying but it's just a forecast and has no bearing on the monetary facts.

I have to agree with Matt. N6 if what you say is true then what would be the point of testing any system?  All system tests result in zero monetary gain, so does this mean that all testing is worthless, even if the test shows that the system would have made a good profit (relative to starting bankroll) over a significant number of spins? Surely that would be absurd.

[thomasgrant]

Thomas Grant clearly alluded to the notion that I haven't got one.

Well, you have a go at me so often.

I may have alluded. But try not to accused.

[KevinNash]

English may not be your second language but I still reserve the right to call this response laughable and absurd. Since when were computers self-powering? Next time you're at school ask one of your teachers about economic efficiency.

Your right is your right, OK... I have a second language, do you have one ?

Do you really think Thomas use his computer only to run this bot ? Mine run 24/24, 7/7 since years and so what ? My electricity bills are less than 80 € each month, for a 120 m² individual house...

Do you really think this bot will increase his electricity bills ? YOU ARE clearly laughable and absurd having said that, so forget it and move away, don't be more ridiculous...

You made a mistake, nobody is perfect, we'll forget that, no problem, just reserving my right here N°6 

[Number Six]

Your right is your right, OK... I have a second language, do you have one ?

Latin.

I presume you're still learning English at school. If I can assist with your homework let me know, always happy to help children when I can.

[Number Six]

I have to agree with Matt. N6 if what you say is true then what would be the point of testing any system?  All system tests result in zero monetary gain, so does this mean that all testing is worthless, even if the test shows that the system would have made a good profit (relative to starting bankroll) over a significant number of spins? Surely that would be absurd.

It's conjecture, Tangram. When testing a system the only thing you should consider is what exactly happened. Saying "well, I used 0.50 chips and a 100 BR. If I'd have used 1 chips and a 200 BR, I'd have doubled my profit." It's true but it didn't happen. You can't test like that because the figures aren't real. Drawing anything from non-existent, forecasted numbers is naive.

[thomasgrant]

Well, I left for work today.
At 4.30 pm.
It is now 11.55 pm.
Just came home to see how things where going.
I started the bot at 4.25pm
And here are the results so far.
$6.44c at $0.02c for each section.
So I have reached my gaol of $60 and then some.
I am going to continue letting it play.
Until I return from my shift.
And that should be in a few hours time.
See if it can reach the $10 mark.

[thomasgrant]

Two hours later...

Well, I went back to work for a bit.
Came back. Saw a big dip.
Hmmm, not happy.
Went away again.
Came back, it had recovered.
So I nearly made $7
I have doubled my money.

You can see in this picture.
At stage 1, was when I first took the screen shot.
Stage 2, was about an hour of so later.
Stage 3, is where I am at now.
I think I will leave it there and start again.
Take my profits.
And start again.
Despite the speed of play.
And that apparently there may still be a bug in the software.
The results are looking good.

Now from $30 to $60 is that 100% or 1000%
I will have to figure it out when I return.

That is also 300 + units. at $0.02c each section.
And that aint bad at all.

Just over 1000 spins.
Took about 10 hrs of play.

Shore hope the next version would run faster than that.

[thomasgrant]

Now onto Number Sixes concern about price.
The bot cost.

$249.00 USD

That is what I paid for it.
That equates to

$249.00 USD
   
=
   
$345.353 AUD

Now I put into the casino.

30.00 EUR
   
=
   
54.2299 AUD

And my current balance stands at.
64.69 EUR
   
=
   
116.957 AUD

$345.353 AUD - $116.957 AUD
=
$228.396 AUD to go.
That makes
228.396 AUD
   
=
   
126.297 EUR

Before I am square.
Or at least paid for the software.
Well I got to add an extra $30 EUR for my initial deposit.
And make a bit extra as well.

So it looks like I have a bit to go, till anyone is remotely impressed.

Just keep swimming, (Dory from Finding Nemo)

As soon as it reaches $70
I may after consultation with Matt.
Increase the bet size to $0.03c

And do a first run of 100 units.
That is $3.

See how that goes.

[xman1970]

Latin.

Bet that answer was not expected....

I'd get back to your testing No.6 & leave these bot people alone....

butting heads only causes headaches, even in this virtual world....

[thomasgrant]

Internal RNG...
Ok, Now take a close look at this picture.
This is using the Internal RNG.
So results are not typical.
Just to show you that these things are not fallible.

In the red...

Not to sure about Internal RNG.
Or how accurate it is.
Or what that says about the software.

Or the system it uses.

My guess is.
To use good money management.
Make a profit.
And live for another day.

Will have to see what Matt has to say on this one.

[TwoCatSam]

Xman has named us "bot people".  Kills me!!   

Thomas Grant

Man, that greed is already getting to ya!  Wanting to go to three-cent bets!  Tsk Tsk

Sm

[TwoCatSam]

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