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[gunslinger]

hello
Im fairly new to this roulette game and would like to ask a question that might appear silly to some but.   .   .   here goes anyway  
What could you cover on a roulette table that wouldnt get you into trouble or I guess I mean noticed.  
Ok lets say I covered 20 numbers.   .    or 2 columns and two of the dozens .   .   or even 35 of the numbers.   .   would I get thrown out??
thanks.   .   .   take it easy with me please
gunslinger

[lucky_strike]

Well I think that you should not worry about this kind off questions.
If you would be an andvantage player and are good at it then it can become sensitive.
Bias or VB.

The Casino will love you if you play a system.

LS

[Shorty]

You will never get stopped or even looked at playing a system. Casinos will love you.

[gunslinger]

Thank you for your kind replies

[VLSroulette]

@Gunslinger

What could you cover on a roulette table that wouldnt get you into trouble or I guess I mean noticed.

Hello mate,

Concensus is: unless they spot you doing some form of Advantage Play, they are okay with you taking notes or playing any system.

They are certain their game is unbeatable so they welcome you to try with any method of your choice. Believe me you'll only get in trouble by winning too much, and that's a problem you would like to have, won't you 

Regards.

[gunslinger]

@Gunslinger

Hello mate,

Concensus is: unless they spot you doing some form of Advantage Play, they are okay with you taking notes or playing any system. 

They are certain their game is unbeatable so they welcome you to try with any method of your choice.   Believe me you'll only get in trouble by winning too much, and that's a problem you would like to have, won't you 

Regards. 

I would indeed like to have this problem. 
Please another question arising from your kind answer vls.  .  .  what is advantage play?.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  like I said Im new to this
thank you.  . 

[lucky_strike]

Believe me you'll only get in trouble by winning too much, and that's a problem you would like to have, won't you

Well some friends from syrien made 6 numbers and guess what they got lunch tickets from the pit boss - lol - that was funny and i bet that pit boss want them to come back and play some more, soon.
If comp had been allowed in our contry i guess they would get more then lunch tickets - hahaha - so don't worry about winning to much.

LS

[VLSroulette]

what is advantage play?.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .

thank you.  . 

In short Advantage Play is any accepted form of play which makes the player overcome the house edge and hence be in the position of having long-term wins guaranteed (within a playable extent).

This positively means the player, and not the casino, is scheduled to be the overall winner as the spin sample increases.

There are accepted forms of advantage play which include:

-   Visual Ballistics: Predicting where the ball will land as the spin progresses matching current spin with most likely outcomes based on previously collected data like number of revolutions before ball falls, dominant diamond, dominant drop zone, likely zone for the ball to hit the disc with current readings, ball scatter after hit, etc.

-   Bias Attack: Exploiting imperfections on the physical device serving the game of roulette with techniques for spotting which numbers outperform the expected payout rate. I.e. any number which is spotted to offer a better than 1 in 36 rate of appearances is business (1 in 37 is the expected, 1 in 36 is break even).

-   Dealer Signature: Tracking the rhythm for a dealer under the premise a human brings in a bias to the game by their human-being condition, I.e.  because of "muscle memory". By betting this "rhythm", players which find profitable dealers are able to overcome the house and gain this form of advantage.



When talking about advantage play these are the accepted forms of it.

Betting a system and winning sustainedly is not officially considered "Advantage play", even if shall you be a winner your whole lifetime, for pure randomness has no limits and therefore there is always the latent possibility a "Massive Fluke" in favor of a single player may arise.

Kind regards,
Victor

[gunslinger]

In short Advantage Play is any accepted form of play which makes the player overcome the house edge and hence be in the position of having long-term wins guaranteed (within a playable extent). 

This positively means the player, and not the casino, is scheduled to be the overall winner as the spin sample increases. 

So does this mean that betting 5 dbl streets or 35 numbers is NOT acceptable . is this not advantage play?
VLS I really thank you for taking the time to explain to me.

[MattyMattz]

trust me gunslinger, they'd have no problem with you betting 35 numbers or 5 lines.  I bet 5 lines a fair bit, no problems.

Cheers,
Matt

[gunslinger]

Oh I do trust you Mr Mattz. Thank you. I will ask no more questions for now 
Thank you all for your help 

[VLSroulette]

So does this mean that betting 5 dbl streets or 35 numbers is NOT acceptable . is this not advantage play?

Exactly. just wagering 5 double-streets per se isn't advantage as it would be "random betting" subject to give, which means you are subject to random fluctuations and by "moving chips" (wagering) at the table, chips are expected to move back and forth between you and the casino while it takes its cut as expected at the end of the day.

Layout-based methods (I.e. those using RED/BLACK) aren't accepted as advantage play as layout-betting is intended for math-based play, which is acknowledged to offer no advantage whatsoever and play exactly at the house edge at any random wheel.

On the other hand, a wheel-based attack on 35 numbers could offer some form of advantage given proper physical conditions.

If you spot two numbers being negatively biased (coming consistently less than what they probability dictates) due to a physical flaw, wagering the other 35 could provide an advantage as they have to "absorb" the hit rate corresponding to those negatively biased numbers at the observed sample; main question being: are they negatively biased enough to "donate" more than -2.7% ratio to the remaining 35 numbers? If so, you could get an advantage out of this particular 35-number bet at such a particular wheel exhibiting these conditions.

You do need to make proper study of the wheel first prior to trying any form of advantage play against the device.

Regards.
Victor

[gunslinger]

@Vls
Thank you. . . now I understand thoroughly. . . thank you for taking the time.

[gunslinger]

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