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[super-roulette]

In the long run, you will still lose or break even at best.  You're just experiencing a normal random fluctuation.

Herb, what is 'the long run' ? If Tom withdrawals now he is well in front, is that not a win?

It is the normal, random fluctuation of the game that ensures each session is a success.

This certainty that means the bankroll will grow streadily; in essence, the longer you play, the more you will win.

Matt

[Herb]

Herb, what is 'the long run' ? If Tom withdrawals now he is well in front, is that not a win?

It is the normal, random fluctuation of the game that ensures each session is a success. It is this certainty that ensures the bankroll will grow streadily, in essence, the longer you play, the more you will win.

That's like asking how many grains of sand make up a heap.

Every play is part of the long run.

It's not the normal random fluctuation of the game that enables you to win in the long run, it's having the edge.  If you don't have the edge, and haven't changed the odds to be in your favor, then you can't win in the long run.  Hitting and running, as they say, doesn't enable you to win in the long term.  You must gain the edge.  By the way, this is a fact that is not even debatable, since it's easily demonstrated mathematically. 

What is your current edge over the casino?

-Herb

[Lohnro]

Herb, what is 'the long run' ? If Tom withdrawals now he is well in front, is that not a win?

Only if he never plays again!

[super-roulette]

It's not the normal random fluctuation of the game that enables you to win in the long run, it's having the edge.  If you don't have the edge, and haven't changed the odds to be in your favor, then you can't win in the long run.  Hitting and running, as they say, doesn't enable you to win in the long term. 

-Herb

Thanks Herb, I welcome the discussion.

Well the edge IS achieved by the random fluctuation of the game, remembering this is a no-zero table...quite simply the more you play, the more you will win.

As the spin sample increases, the edge doesn't increase however it's affect on your balance does.

Regards
Matt

[super-roulette]

Only if he never plays again!

Yes good point Lonhro, if this relied on the 'hit and run' method.

However as I mentioned the results are expected and repeatable and do not require the 'quit while you are ahead' mentality.

Regards
Matt

[Herb]

However as I mentioned the results are expected and repeatable and do not require the 'quit while you are ahead' mentality.

Then what enables you to win? 

If you don't have the edge, then you're just experiencing a normal random fluctuation.  According to probability, the more you play, the more you will approach break even.  You may be experiencing a brief winning period now, but in time, you will move closer and closer to break even.  Regardless of when you quit each "session".

-Herb

[super-roulette]

Then what enables you to win? 
-Herb

(zero house edge + expected fluctuation of results + logical betting patterns) = edge over casino = win

Matt

[Herb]

No, it doesn't.

Without the edge, you don't win. 

[Number Six]

expected fluctuation of results

What if the outcomes don't fluctuate as expected? Er...you lose

Your philosophy of roulette is terribly flawed

[super-roulette]

What if the outcomes don't fluctuate as expected? Er...you lose

Your philosophy of roulette is terribly flawed

N6, over a large sample of spins they will, so each session will be successful.

My philosophy may be flawed in your eyes N6, I have never claimed to be an expert on the subject. However I am winning consistently with my so called flawed philosophy, so maybe it isn't as flawed as you maintain.

Matt

[super-roulette]

No, it doesn't.

Without the edge, you don't win. 

Herb, that is just the point an edge is created, so you do win.

[super-roulette]

I don't want to hijack this thread anymore guys, this is actually Tom's thread for Roulette Bot Pro - which I have no knowledge of.

Thanks for the debate.

Regards
Matt

[Herb]

I'm sorry, but I don't see any benefit to the bots.  They just seem to be an efficient way to lose.  They don't change the house edge, so currently, it would appear that you are just gambling with them.

Best of Luck.

-Herb

[thomasgrant]

I'm sorry, but I don't see any benefit to the bots.  They just seem to be an efficient way to lose.  They don't change the house edge, so currently, it would appear that you are just gambling with them.

Best of Luck.

-Herb

You don't see the benefits of the bots?
Ok, let me ask you then.
You are in the forum.
So that must mean that you have some interest in Roulette.
You possibly play the game on occasion.
I assume that you play only on LIVE tables.
Many here claim that it is the only way to win.
Playing on a live table, do you use any system?
Or just use luck?
There are many systems out there.
Some better than others.
If a bot was made to work on a LIVE roulette table.
And use the system or systems that you or anyone else is using with some success.
Then the question would be.
Would you use it?

[Herb]

You don't see the benefits of the bots?

Nope.  They don't change the house edge one bit.

If you disagree, then please explain how it change the house edge.

[Herb]

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