my 2 section parlay method

[johhnyg]

I would like to show you all a system I created last night.
Now please don't all shoot me down or go rushing to the casino either
with your life savings (yeah right! I hear you all shouting, lol)
I will call it Johhnyg's 2 section parlay system.
What you have to do is bet 2 sections of the layout and when you win,
re-invest the winnings and go for another win.  So to pull out at anyt
ime with a profit you must hit 2 wins.
Watching the dozens, you wait for 2 different dozens to appear.
either 1,2 or 1,3 or 2,3.  Now you bet them 2 sections hoping the othe
r dozen sleeps for a few spins.
At my local casino we have a 25p min table.  The dozens are a min £5. 
So to start small instead of betting the dozens I bet 4 double lanes. 
So in the example below let's assume I am betting 1-6,7-12,13-18 and 1
9-24.  So I will show you how I would personally bet it and then you ca
n sort out your own chart using the table minimum where you are.

1) a.  £2. 00 = 4x50p win £3. 00 or lose £2. 00.  now here if you win you
put the winnings back on and if you lose you go to level 2.  There are
8 levels that I am going to show you.  It could be a few more if you ha
ve enough bankroll for it.
b.  £3. 00 = 4x75p win £4. 50 or lose £2. 00.  If you lose here you hav
e just lost your original £2. 00 stake and now you go to level 2.  if yo
u win here and won the last bet your total gain here is £2. 50 and now
you start over again at level 1.

2) a.  £4. 00 = 4x£1. 00 win £6. 00 or lose £6. 00.
b.  £6. 00 = 4x£1. 50 win £9. 00 or lose £6. 00.  If you won both bets o
n level 2 you have gained £3. 00 and now you go back and start at level
1 again.  If you won the first bet at level 2 but lost the second bet
you must go to level 3.  If you lost the first bet at level 2 then you
go right away to level 3.  It is easy once you get the hang of it.

3) a.  £6. 00 = 4x£1. 50 win £9. 00 or lose £12. 00.  (this loss figure is
always your total loss figure as you going up through the levels)
b.  £9. 00 = 4x£2. 25 win £13. 50 or lose £12. 00.  If you won both bets
on level 3 you have gained £1. 50 and you now go back to level 1.

4) a.  £12. 00 = 4x £3. 00 win £18. 00 or lose £24. 00.
b.  £18. 00 = 4x £4. 50 win £27. 00 or lose £24. 00.  total gain £4. 00.

5) a.  £20. 00 = 4x£5. 00 win £30. 00 or lose £44. 00.
b.  £30. 00 = 4x£7. 50 win £45. 00 or lose £44. 00.  total gain £1. 00.

6) a.  £36. 00 = 4x£9. 00 win £54. 00 or lose £80. 00.
b.  £54. 00 = 4x£13. 50 win £81. 00 or lose £80. 00.  total gain £1. 00.

7) a.  £68. 00 = 4x£17. 00 win £102. 00 or lose £148. 00.
b.  £102. 00 = 4x£25. 50 win £153. 00 or lose £148. 00.  total gain £5. 0
0

a.  £120. 00 = 4x£30. 00 win £180. 00 or lose £268. 00.
b.  £180. 00 = 4x£45. 00 win £270. 00 or lose £268. 00.  total gain £2. 0
0

The patterns that will beat this bet on the dozens are as follows
1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3.
1,3,2,1,3,2,1,3,2.
2,1,3,2,1,3,2,1,3.
2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1.
3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2.
3,2,1,3,2,1,3,2,1.
Maybe someone could work out the odds for any one of them patterns ap
pearing.  If you can get it up to 10 levels I think it would be a fairl
y safe bet to grind out some profits.
But as it stands as shown above, there are 8 levels.  you start at lev
el 1.  There are 2 bets in each level.  If you win the first bet of a le
vel, you then place the second bet at that level.  If you win both bets
of that level or any level you go back to the start (level 1)
If you the first bet of any level, you must go up to the next level. 
If you win the first bet of a level but lose the second bet of a level
, you must go up to the next level.
It is not difficult and this can probably be tweaked a bit to make it
better.  But as far as parlays and progressions go this looks one of t
he safer ones if I dare say it.

1) a.  4. 00 = 4x1. 00 win 6. 00 lose 4. 00
b.  6. 00 = 4x1. 50 win 9. 00 lose 4. 00

2) a.  8. 00 = 4x2. 00 win 12. 00 lose 12. 00
b.  12. 00 = 4x3. 00 win 18. 00 lose 12. 00

3) a.  16. 00 = 4x4. 00 win 24. 00 lose 28. 00
b.  24. 00 = 4x6. 00 win 36. 00 lose 28. 00

4) a.  24. 00 = 4x6. 00 win 36. 00 lose 52. 00
b.  36. 00 = 4x9. 00 win 54. 00 lose 52. 00

5) a.  44. 00 = 4x11. 00 win 66. 00 lose 96. 00
b.  66. 00 = 4x16. 50 win 99. 00 lose 96. 00

6) a.  80. 00 = 4x20. 00 win 120. 00 lose 176. 00
b.  120. 00 = 4x30. 00 win 180. 00 lose 176. 00

7) a.  144. 00 = 4x36. 00 win 216. 00 lose 320. 00
b.  216. 00 = 4x54. 00 win 324. 00 lose 320. 00

a.  260. 00 = 4x65. 00 win 390. 00 lose 580. 00
b.  390. 00 = 4x97. 50 win 585. 00 lose 580. 00

9) a.  480 = 4x120. 00 win 720. 00 lose 1060. 00
b.  720. 00 = 4x180. 00 win 1080. 00 lose 1060. 00

total bankroll needed 1060. 00

win at different levels.

1)5. 00
2)6. 00
3)8. 00
4)2. 00
5)3. 00
6)4. 00
7)4. 00
8)5. 00
9)20. 00

This one seems better rounded and has 9 levels.  I went to random. org
and kept downloading 1000 spin files looking to see if I could find th
e pattern to beat it.  After 5000 spins I stopped looking.  of course it
could defeat you the very first time or you could go on a long winnin
g run and even a few losses would still leave you in profit.  This is j
ust a pure mechanical system for parlaying 2 sections over 9 levels to
come out with a profit if you hit 2 wins in any level, simple as that.

[VLSroulette]

Johhny, first of it all [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif]

Next let me say you [smiley=dankk2.gif] for this productive post. Keep them coming.

Maybe someone could work out the odds for any one of them patterns appearing.

The odds for any pattern covering 12 numbers are the same my friend, regardless of which are the numbers covered, it only matters it is a 12-number bet. You can find the way to work out the math yourself by reading this excellent tutorial by Kon-Fu-Sed: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/reference-area/roulette-probability-made-easier-t2193/

Looking forward to knowing more about you.

Your friendly forum admin,
Victor

[johhnyg]

just as an example here are some numbers I downloaded and I will give demonstration.
22 2nd dozen.
21 2nd dozen.  (so nothing happening just yet)
10 1st dozen.  So now I will start betting at level 1 on 1-6,7-12,
13-18, and 19-24.
16 2nd dozen.  So a winner and now I go to the second part of level 1.
24. 2nd dozen That won as well and now because I won both bets on level 1 I start all over again from level 1.
There is now no bet because the last 2 numbers were both in the 2nd dozen.
32.  3rd dozen.  So now I will start betting on level 1 on 13-18,19-24,25-30, and 31-36.
34.  3rd dozen.  A winner and now I go to the second part of level 1.
36.  3rd dozen.  That also won and now after winning both bets on level 1 I revert back to the beginning on level 1.
There is now no bet either because the last 2 numbers were both in the 3rd dozen.
3.  1st dozen.  So I can start betting on level 1 and will be betting 1-6,7-12,25-30, and 31-36.
14.  2nd dozen.  That is a loser and now I MUST go up to level 2.
The last 2 dozens were 1 and 2 so I am backing 1-6, 7-12, 13-18, and 19-24 at the first stage of level 2.
0.  Well that was quick as well, another loser and now I must go up to level 3.
11.  1st dozen.
14.  2nd dozen.  so now another bet because the last 2 dozens were 1 and 2.  So I am at the first stage of level 3.  betting 1-6,7-12,13-18, and 19-24.
35.  3rd dozen.  that is another loser and now I am moving up to level 4.
The last 2 dozens were 2 and 3.  So I am betting 13-18,19-24,25-30, 31-36.
2.  1st dozen.  another loser and now I am going up to level 5.
The last 2 dozens were 1 and 3 so I am betting 1-6,7-12,25-30, and 31-36.
9.  1st dozen.  that was a winner on the first part of level 5 and now I will play the second part of level 5 betting the 1-6,7-12,25-30, and 31-36.
17.  2nd dozen that was a loss on the second part of level 5 and now I will move up to level 6.
The last 2 dozens out were 1 and 2 so I am betting 1-6, 7-12,13-18 and 19-24.
14.  2nd dozen.  that is a win on the first part of level 6 and now I move to the second part of level 6 betting 1-6,7-12,13-18 and 19-24.
6.  1st dozen.  That means I have won both bets on level 6 and can now start all over again at level 1.  In total I have won three bets of 5. 00 5. 00 and 4. 00 for a profit of 14. 00.

[rss]

Hi johhnyg,
This is a good and original idea,
however, after testing it,i believe some tweaking is necessary.

eg.  1 can lose the entire progression  if a sequence such as this happens:
llllwlwlwlwlwl

perhaps, an idea is that after a certain amount of L one should revert to some steps before, eg.  l l l w (now instead of playing the 2 nd part of step 4, one should go back to 1 st bet of step 2).

hope you understand what i m trying to say, cos explaining something is not my strongest point.

Great idea though, and with some tweaking, i reckon this can be one of the best progressions around.

[johhnyg]

Thanks for the reply rss. Yes I understand what you mean about going back some steps. There is always going to be the string of results from hell 
One of them can do a lot of damage to the bankroll.
If you have time check out my Dozens and Colums System. that as well with a bit of tweaking can throw up some really good wins. I am currently working on ideas to improve it and when I am satisfied that they are for the better I will contribute the new ideas to the forum.

[rss]

Hi johhnyg, i ve already checked it out, haven't tested it yet though.  (still trying to get the hang of it!!!)

Thanks mate, you re really a breath of fresh air to this forum.

Best regards

[trylobit]

Interesting...

So you didn't find a losing strike in 5000 spins?

[rss]

There are losing streaks, but if there is a sequence like LLLLLLLww, it ends in profit, which is great considering that you are betting on 2 dozens/columns at the same time, and there are more w than l.  The problem i can see with this progression is if you get a streak without 2 consecutive W.

[johhnyg]

That's right. There will be losing strings out there just waiting to happen no doubt and I do not really like progressions but some people do like them so I thought I would throw it in the ring and see what you guys think. I certainly can't vouch for this one long term. If you get on a roll early then a loss will not hurt but it would be a long way back if your first game produced a loss.

[trylobit]

I must say I am impressed.
I am against explosive progression, but this one has a major twist...

We will see how it goes with testing...

Meanwhile first short session:
The average unit per spin over 1, that really good.
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Best regards.
Trylobit

[trylobit]

2nd test:
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[trylobit]

3rd test.
Sweet session.
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[trylobit]

The worst session so far... (meaning I managed to go pretty high with the progression).
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[trylobit]

After 837 spins tested I had first situation that I went all the progression till last point, but it had won 
Here is session, further tests pending...
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[trylobit]

On session 15 of my test system failed.
After 1309 spins.
In first 14 session system made profit of 1302 units with average of 1,08 unit per spin.
That means with the Victors 50%MM I managed to withdrawal 712,1 and on session 14 the single bet was risen to 1,3 unit.
Here is the session and tables with previous results. I will continue the test to see will it manage to recover.

Best regards.
Trylobit
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[trylobit]

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