shuffle by hand vs machine

[John1234]

I have been doing some live testing with dublinBet's live baccarat. I am from USA so I can only practice.

I noticed that the dealers on DublinBet have to shuffle the cards by hand. I could be mistaken but I think that the casinos in Atlantic City use an automatic shuffler or something like that.

If I am going to be playing at a table that has a machine shuffling the cards, is it safe to use live data from decks that were shuffled by hand? This is probably a stupid question but I just want to make sure there that there ins't a difference.

[GARNabby]

John1234,

In my experience, 95% claim all the those things you mentioned matter. But barring any PROOF to the contrary, I have always maintained that any sort of (casino) "procedural" shuffling will have the same result IN THE LONG RUN (over a billion shuffles).

Ultimately, shuffling by hand involves the same electrons pushing off electrons as an ASM (automatic shuffling machine) or a CSM (continuous shuffling machine); though the latters use a computer chip to determine passes and piles of the cards inside (, and, eg, the programmer commits such a random act by hand setting the "seed".) One sequence is as locked in or not, depending on your philosophies, etc, as the other. Randomness by analog means is as random-or-not by digital. (Randomness is a much more intrinsic property than are the analog or digital; and certainly precedes those.)

I'm not sure how much actual trial-testing has been done by the casino industry itself but I know each and every precaution is taken to "insure" randomness either way from the outset. Casinos err tremendously on the side of over-cautiousness.

The only significant differences are that shuffling by hand sometimes (intentionally or not) results in unshuffled "slugs" of cards; and in a slower game.

Sometimes the cards are shuffled by hand when the ASM breaks down.

[John1234]

Thanks for the great lesson on shuffling.

[GARNabby]

One last thought on that to help make what i'm saying clearer by an analogy.

Is there a difference between synthetic (generic) and naturally-occurring (brand-name) drugs? Of course not. Each contains the same (active) chemicals; only the price is different.

[John1234]

hahah good point. I like that analogy. It is a constant struggle for me to not by that brand-name drug.

[John1234]

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