What Does Reading Random Mean

[gizmotron]

Assigning rules to pattern recognition is an exercise in futility. I do this day in and day out, I know no rules whatever can work with random outcomes. You can't give ONE example where it works.

You mean like a working computer algorithm?

Don't feed the troll...

[cheese]

You mean like a working computer algorithm?
.

No, a real example, not a vaporware example. A real example we can see and judge, not something you're perpetually going to reveal 'next week'.

[gizmotron]

No, a real example, not a vaporware example. A real example we can see and judge, not something you're perpetually going to reveal 'next week'.

Well you've wrecked another thread. That's what you do.

[Kelly]

One thing is to reckognize a pattern, anybody can do that, where is the guarantee that it will continue with a hit rate better than expectation ? You can apply the law of the series to also apply to a pattern as long as both samples has the same spin lenght.  You will find that both types has as many break ups, as they have continuations. Unless you have found a unique pattern that comes more often than others. Feel free to post that. In fact, post any kind of sequenze that triggers a bet, i don`t care what the bet might be, just a sequenze that triggers a bet.   

[cheese]

One thing is to reckognize a pattern, anybody can do that, where is the guarantee that it will continue with a hit rate better than expectation ?  In fact, post any kind of sequenze that triggers a bet.   

There is NO pattern that continues better than expectation. There are no triggers in roulette, its impossible. Anybody who believes there are has not studied long enough or is deluding themselves.

[Frame it]

There is NO pattern that continues better than expectation.   There are no triggers in roulette, its impossible.   Anybody who believes there are has not studied long enough or is deluding themselves.   

Patterns can be recognized after they happen, but that doesn't mean you can't attempt to ride the begining of a pattern into a 20+ win streak, it happens.    In roulette there are no laws, the wheel has no memory and that's where trends and patterns were born.    That's how and why they can be exploited.    If the wheel HAD a memory it would spit out a perfect equal distribution such as R b R b R b R b R b R b R b R b R b. 

Are you saying that if I look at the last 8 spins and I see 6 reds and 2 blacks (regardless of what pattern there is b/c I don't pay attention to patterns), that I absolutely will not get at least 1 or two more reds in the next 2-4 spins?  

Of course you will say no.    You will say that aything can happen at anytime and you are right.    However when I see this on the marquee I am far more right than I am wrong.    If I am wrong and it changes then I change with it or jump onto another E/C where it is continuing to work.    If it looks like a complete mess and there is nothing that I see that has dominated the last half-dozen spins, then I don't play that stream & I look for something better.   I have mastered this skill with such precision I can walk into a casino, take one quick glance at the marquee and begin to bet.    It's how I keep under the radar.    I keep moving from table to table, from casino to casino.   

[iggiv]

stunning....


Frame_it, thanx a lot for the info,  i have a question: let's say u identified dominant EC. U place your bet, say on RED. u wait for 4-5 losses to occur before quitting this particular spot? Or for how many losses? When u said: 4-5 losses, u meant for this particular "mini-session" or for a whole day? or maybe for this whole session on this particular wheel before u move to another?

thanx again

[gizmotron]

One thing is to reckognize a pattern, anybody can do that, where is the guarantee that it will continue with a hit rate better than expectation ?

It doesn't need a guarantee. It doesn't even have to win. I win more times than I lose. That's all that matters. If you can't attack a win streak then why do you ask for information from others? All you do is tell people that they can't do what they are already doing. Nothing ever changes.

[Frame it]

stunning.   .   .   .   


Frame_it, thanx a lot for the info,  I have a question: let's say u identified dominant EC.    U place your bet, say on RED.    u wait for 4-5 losses to occur before quitting this particular spot? Or for how many losses? When u said: 4-5 losses, u meant for this particular "mini-session" or for a whole day? or maybe for this whole session on this particular wheel before u move to another?

thanx again

If you see something that looks good and you lose, quit that stream after 3 consecutive losses, or 3 out of 4 losses.     Look for something better.     Sometimes quit after 2 consecutive losses, you have to get a feel for it.   Sometimes it changes quicker than others.   Looking for something better can be on that wheel on a different even chance or a different table.     Don't place a single bet until you have practiced thousands of spins and never lose a session.   

Anything can be used.    If you see a ton of reds, bet that reds will keep coming.    If you see a ton of streaks, bet they will keep coming.    If you see a ton of switching like RbRbRbRbRb or even RbRRbrbRRb.  .  .  .  bet that it will continue.    If you are wrong, you are wrong and you move on to find the next.    In roulette this is ALWAYS happening on every wheel at every table, it's quite easy when you practice. 

[gizmotron]

stunning....


Frame_it, thanx a lot for the info,  I have a question: let's say u identified dominant EC. U place your bet, say on RED. u wait for 4-5 losses to occur before quitting this particular spot? Or for how many losses? When u said: 4-5 losses, u meant for this particular "mini-session" or for a whole day? or maybe for this whole session on this particular wheel before u move to another?

thanx again

You are asking questions about the difficulty of the session. Those are the right questions to ask. If you lose once following a trend then that is a clear signal that it's not working. There is only one time when you might want to risk a second loss on that trend. You might be flat betting the EC's in a 80% pure domination typed trend. That's where you would expect a perfect execution of what you are seeing to have a few interspersed losses. So you ride it out to see if it holds up.

[iggiv]

thanx a lot guys

[Kelly]

Frame it, what you say is highly hypothetical. Take a bet selection like the Guetting March/strategy.  It conforms towards whatever is trending. Chops or series, even 2er series and nose patterns.

B
B
Bet B

B
R
B
Bet R

B
B
R
R
B
Bet B and the bet RR anticipating that that the 2er series continues.

X
X
(-) X Follow the serie fails
X (-) Follow new chop serie fails
X (-) Follow possible chop fails
(-) X Follow new, because 2 in a row,  serie fails
(-) X Follow chops fails
X (-)Follow serie fails
(-) X Follow 2er serie fails
(-) X Follow chops fails

You can jump and dance all you like, as soon as you think you go choppy, series starts and when you think series is about to start, they go choppy. Any bet selection has an enemy pattern. Just go along with whatever trend there is, and you are home free, simply does not cut it. Its wishfull thinking, real spins arent really that nice to you. As on the stock market, in roulette its easy to see what you should have done after a elegant pattern just ocurred, the truth is, you dont know what is going to happen to your next line of bets.

[cheese]

  If you see a ton of reds, bet that reds will keep coming.    If you see a ton of streaks, bet they will keep coming.    If you see a ton of switching like RbRbRbRbRb or even RbRRbrbRRb.  .  .  .  bet that it will continue.

This works exactly half the time. If this worked like you say, find streaks and patterns and bet they will continue, everybody would be doing it, and they're not. Try it in practice at home, you will see in no time that you do exactly 50% in no time. If it were as easy as you say to win this way, roulette would have shut down 200 years ago.

[cheese]

Just go along with whatever trend there is, and you are home free, simply does not cut it. Its wishfull thinking, real spins arent really that nice to you.

Its rule based betting and it can never work. Its newbie stuff, just follow this or bet against that and you'll beat the game. No, you won't.

[cheese]

If you can't attack a win streak then why do you ask for information from others? All you do is tell people that they can't do what they are already doing.

Because they AREN'T doing it, thats why. If I can't do it, why can they? Its like somebody posts they can leap tall buildings with a single bound, like Superman, and I'm supposed to believe it. I don't.

[cheese]

-