Roulette Raid

[steveh3167]

Hi Sam

Wasn't able to reply sooner as no internet access last night.

My calculations were worked on betting all 10 numbers from spin one for 10 spins, cost for 10 spins, 100 units. Over 100 sessions cost is 10,000 units (100x100). The total number of wins for the 100 sessions was 200, including repeats, total wins therefore 7200 units (200x36). Loss 2800 units.

Your example of starting with the first trigger then adding one for each bet is another way of playing but the consequence is that the trigger numbers can, and do, hit before the bet is placed. This can be seen from the raw data worksheet. It is certainly a safer way to play for protecting the bankroll but the wins will be somewhat reduced.

I'll look at the data again and put something together about what the outcome would have been on the above strategy.

Update re the outcome:

Winners, over 100 sessions, based on betting starting with the first trigger number and adding subsequent trigger numbers as they were generated in RR(repeats included):
Spin 1  17
Spin 2  23
Spin 3  18
Spin 4  11
Spin 5  7
Spin 6  11
Spin 7  13
Spin 8  4
Spin 9  7
Spin 10 3

Total  114 x36= 4104 units. Cost to play 55 units per session x 100 sessions= 5500. Loss 1396 units which evidences that this is a more sensible strategy to adopt but still wont win overall.

Scenario 2 in the Excel file is a safer strategy again as it does show a profit over the 100 sessions but playing this way would mean keeping records of the spin data and continually updating the results which may not be everyones cup of tea. Also, the return on bankroll may not satisfy some players.

As another comparison, I am in the process of putting the same spin results used for the above through Sams NewEyes to see how the outcome compares. Will post when complete.

Regards, Steve

[TwoCatSam]

Steve....

Naturally!  Thanks for the tutelage.  I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but sometimes I flash a bit!

Sam

[steveh3167]

Clint

Re your post above. I also believe that there is something worth looking at given the number of occurrences that neighbours are hit.

As well as what I have said above about comparing results against Sams TwoEyes, I will do more work on the RR raw data from the neighbour aspect. It will take some rehashing to do but will post when done.

Steve

[Clint]

Thanks Steve, I'm using this daily now both playing and testing. Worse case I have had was a hit on 9th spin during testing. Again I'm in and out quickly using this system with real money and I have not reached the higher end of the progression yet (though that day will no doubt come).

Regards

Clint

[Kingspin]

I bought Roulette  Raid a few weeks ago , i have done quite a bit of testing it out on live wheels and also ran many  numbers through it from spin data history.  The fact is playing Roulette Raid is dicey. Very dicey. Yes it can win . Yes it can sometimes hit within 1 or 2 spins the winning number. On the other hand i have seen it wipe out 500 unit bankrolls several times. IT's not something i use or would recommend anyone use but then it's your choice at the end of the day. It's worth playing now and again for a bit of a change . Some people claim to be making a living playing online using Roulette Raid , all i can say to that is - Total BS!.    A nice waste of money if you ask me. Works like an RNG with it's number selection. No voodoo magic - honestly it's rng based thats all it is.   

[steveh3167]

Hi Sam, Clint and interested others

Have now completed putting the set of 100 sessions through SamsNew Eyes and the results are improved over RR. On a flat bet basis for all 10 spins the loss was 640 units. However, there was a profit of +224 units after the 7th spin, so the big losses occured from spin 8 through to 10. This led me to look at the trigger/bet spins further.

The outcome is that I consider a playing strategy can be struck based on not playing more than 7 spins. A further play on this was to not bet on spins 1 and 3 as minimal wins came from these. I then applied a progression of 1,2,3,1,1 on the remaining spins (not a progression just for the sake of it, but timed for where the big wins were evident) and the profit became +736. Cost over 100 sessions 3800, Wins 4536.

There was a mix of casino's in this session data (4 I think) all from posts on VLS. I then looked to see if the results would hold up using some Weisbaden spins so I did another 2 sessions of 100 spins each. The wins were not as significant as the ones above and there were some differences between all three sessions in the performance of the individual bet spins and trigger numbers.

It didn't make sense (to me) that results would be much different when applying a formula for an outcome if table 'performance' is consistent across all casino's.

Anyhow, my next step is to put the strategy to the real test and play it. Once I've got 100 sessions completed I will post the results.

Clint - I'll look at the sector addition shortly. Are you tracking the sectors in a standard fashion or something different?

Regards, Steve

[TwoCatSam]

Steve

Thank for the work!  I don't understand this sentence as it seems to be saying two different things:  "However, there was a profit of +224 units after the 7th spin, so the big losses occured from spin 8 through to 10."  Do you mean this:  However, there was a profit of +224 units until after the 7th spin, so the big losses occured from spin 8 through to 10.

The sentence makes sense with the "until" in, but not otherwise.  Could you help me?

Sam

[Clint]

Hi Steve, I'm tracking the sectors as it says on the tin i.e. A, B, C or D. I am playing this daily (real ££), get in quick, put approx 6 previous numbers into Raid to warm it up,  and await four misses before I bet. Sometimes it takes a while to get four misses and you let the wins pass by but I'm a bit of a scaredy cat (no offence Sam) when it comes to progressions and am trying to make it as safe as possible.

Again, I am winning twice then leaving and I'm more than happy to win 36 - 72 units daily without the temptation to play a bit longer. Usually winning over 50 units in 10 minutes each day.

A strange one today where both my betting opportunities hit the actual recommended 'Solex' number on the very first bet. 54 Units in 10 minutes. I agree with Kingpin's comments to an extent and we have all experienced plenty of bad times with Raid but there is definitely some voodoo involved with this.

I still believe the potential to lose is there as I have found in testing but there are plenty of wins to be had in between so getting in and out quickly is the way forward. Greed will outdo us all in the end.

Regards

Clint

[TwoCatSam]

and await four misses before I bet.

Clint,

In the above, do you wait for the sectors to miss four times or wait for the progression to lose four times?

Sam

[steveh3167]

Steve

Thank for the work!  I don't understand this sentence as it seems to be saying two different things:  "However, there was a profit of +224 units after the 7th spin, so the big losses occured from spin 8 through to 10."  Do you mean this:  However, there was a profit of +224 units until after the 7th spin, so the big losses occured from spin 8 through to 10.

The sentence makes sense with the "until" in, but not otherwise.  Could you help me?

Sam

Sam, bad grammar on my part. Your correction is spot on.

Steve

[Clint]

Morning Sam, I await four misses to the recommended Solex number/sector then begin betting. Probably just luck but the furthest I've gone into a progression is the third set of betting (2 units per number).

Regards

Clint

[Clint]

Well, I thought I'd do a quick example and surprisingly had my worst session (although it won). I should have heard the warning signal going off in my head when there was a 10 minute inquiry into one of her dodgy spins but dumb old me continued to bet anyway. It took till the 5th bet to win (and boy, was I sweating). I have now made 400 units in 8 days although a loss will take half of this.


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Solex No,Hit,W/L   
6,32,L      
15,3,L      
16,1,W      
26,35   ,W      
22,29,W   
3,12,W   
36,12,L   
33,27   ,L   
21,18,L   
14,8,L   BET NOW
13,29,L   
34,14,L   
35,23,L   
9,27,L   
35,22,W   27 units

Regards

Clint [smiley=2/rambo.gif]
            
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[TwoCatSam]

Clint

Please consider using the snytax.  If you go in you will see the [] at the top and bottom and where to put the commas.

Really easier than spacing, my friend!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Clint

Let me state this in my own words and you tell me if I'm right.

The Solex picks a number.  That number lies in one of the four sectors.  Wheel spins.  If the ball lands in the sector containing the Solex number, it is a win.  If the ball lands in one of the three sectors where the Solex number is not, it is a loss.  Solex picks the sector; the ball must hit the sector.

Four misses by the ball avoiding the Solex Sector and you're good to bet?

You're letting a random pick a random!!  I love it!

Sam

[Clint]

Got it in twenty.........

Clint

PS Thanks for that help with the table. Sam, remember the aim is 1,2,3 wins per session and leave. The loss will eventually get you.

Cheers

[Clint]

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