Sequential Roulette

[cheese]

Easy is a relative term. It wasn't easy when I started. Practice makes it easier. And as far as I'm aware, very few people say it can be done,

Finding biased wheels? Yeah, a safe bet is, very few people are finding biased wheels these days. You must must be joking, right? I don't know if you heard, but biased wheels died a painful death just a few years ago. Yet you easily find lots of them. Have you seen Bigfoot too?

[Mike]

So you're finding biased wheels among the new modern wheels? Is that the story you're going with?

What can I say? It works for me. 

You just carry on with your reading random (cough) and dismiss me as a deluded eccentric.

[Mike]

But don't worry cheese, my claim isn't as ridiculous as yours, so you're still the "special" guy around here. 

[Nathan Detroit]

It is a well known fact that biased wheels  are extremely hard to find. One    has to travel  extensively  and one  of those   wheels  might still be  found  in Lower Slobbovania.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[iggiv]

these days every casino can have a computer to find biased wheels faster than any player and prevent any problems. Not sure they all use it, but they can for sure.

[Nathan Detroit]

They  would  even use  a computer in Lower Slobbovania  IF,   OH YES IF they  don`t run out of electrical power.

N.D.

[Mike]

I don't use the "standard" way of finding bias which was given in the old books; that was never an efficient way of detection, even when the old styles wheels were around. And yes, many casinos now have data collection systems which monitor wheels, but they are not infallible for quite a few reasons which I won't go into. Even if they were, it wouldn't matter, because these systems can't detect a bias until after thousands of spins, and some kinds of bias are temporary and dependent on certain conditions. This means that the bias gets "washed out" in the data and the casino will never know when a bias is present.

It's worth keeping in mind that the main reason why casinos replaced their wheels with the modern low-profile style was to thwart the VB and computer players. Increased scatter will help to achieve that, but it doesn't eliminate bias, in fact, quite the contrary.

[I have cookies]

You speak like Snowman  well i heard some amazing storeys ...

I assume it has to pretty hard or if not impossible to work alone.
Even if defect spotting can be done so does some one need one extra hand to collect data - don't you agree.

[gizmotron]

I don't use the "standard" way of finding bias which was given in the old books; that was never an efficient way of detection, even when the old styles wheels were around. And yes, many casinos now have data collection systems which monitor wheels, but they are not infallible for quite a few reasons which I won't go into. Even if they were, it wouldn't matter, because these systems can't detect a bias until after thousands of spins, and some kinds of bias are temporary and dependent on certain conditions. This means that the bias gets "washed out" in the data and the casino will never know when a bias is present.

So how many spins on average do you need to find a temporary bias? All I need is 100 to 150.

[iggiv]

So how many spins on average do you need to find a temporary bias? All I need is 100 to 150.

then why did u use some complicated methods to bet? if u say it's so simple

[gizmotron]

then why did u use some complicated methods to bet? if u say it's so simple

Who said it was so simple? I never said that. I find your comment argumentative. I went out on a limb and stated my position first. I took a risk of possible ridicule or more incredulous skepticism. It's you that perceives this as so simple. Not me. Perhaps you should explain to us what you are really asking.

[cheese]

Looking for biased wheels is a good hobby for some people, I'm all for it. The more the merrier. Its right up here with spending all your spare time with a metal detector, looking for 'treasure'. You might get lucky.

Probably not, though..

[iggiv]

Who said it was so simple? I never said that. I find your comment argumentative. I went out on a limb and stated my position first. I took a risk of possible ridicule or more incredulous skepticism. It's you that perceives this as so simple. Not me. Perhaps you should explain to us what you are really asking.

well, then i misunderstood u. No reason to get angry though
i thought u were saying 150 spins is enough to get a temp bias wheel, so that's all U need  to win, i thought. just get 150 spins. not very hard.

[gizmotron]

well, then I misunderstood u. No reason to get angry though
I thought u were saying 150 spins is enough to get a temp bias wheel, so that's all U need  to win, I thought. just get 150 spins. not very hard.

There is no such thing as temporary bias. It's randomness. That's exactly what normal random distribution does. It looks like  bias. It ranges from 150 to 450 spins to it's natural cycles. You can track it with the normal averages for a so called "law of thirds." So please try to not be so upset, please.

[ReDsQuaD]

Its very hard to wise people up, its just not worth it. Never wise up a chump, he resents it and will hate you in the end..

True saying.

James.

[ReDsQuaD]

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