Interesting point from the Wiz site

System · July 30, 2011, 09:08:50 AM

If you see those as insults then you are more childish than first impressions. (which is then off the scales)

What question did I not answer? And why are you asking so many questions? Why are you demanding answers whereas you cannot answer the question I asked you? You conveniently sidestep it by saying you won't let yourself open by posting keywords or something. You have not answered one simple question. Ken. Grow up mate. Try and have a discussion with others and not a discussion with yourself because that is what you are doing.

You aske questions yet have no interest. Twocando answered you and you just told him you do not believe him. Come on man where the F*ck are you hoping to go with this? Surely there are easier ways to get attention.

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 10:32:33 AM

They are insults from you and it still stands. Question you did not answer? I asked what is your style of play for roulette? Let me guess, standard BS answer: You really dont play roulette but you like talking about it. Thats what I call.....the 'I'm covered answer'.

What question for me? Why do I think xxxx method will work, was that the UNANSWERED question? If so, I said......its a LOADED question and I ALSO stand by that statement. Dont think you can paint me into a corner rookie. I'm way ahead of you. If I say......there's really no math behind xxxx method. Then YOU think you 'got me'.

If I say xxxx is a great method, go ahead and test it.

You test it and it cant even pass 163 spins, then you AGAIN think you 'got me'.

Its a valid try on your part but you better switch to plan 'B' or something. Reading your posts, you sure do sound like someone I know.

Do I care? Nope. How my wipes after sh****ng is more important than you. You won't slow me down from posting, stop waiting for it. AP (cough) is a load of BS guys, dont fall for it.

Ken

System · July 30, 2011, 11:27:41 AM

Quote from: Mr J on July 30, 2011, 10:32:33 AM
They are insults from you and it still stands. Question you did not answer? I asked what is your style of play for roulette? Let me guess, standard BS answer: You really dont play roulette but you like talking about it. Thats what I call.....the 'I'm covered answer'.

What question for me? Why do I think xxxx method will work, was that the UNANSWERED question? If so, I said......its a LOADED question and I ALSO stand by that statement. Dont think you can paint me into a corner rookie. I'm way ahead of you. If I say......there's really no math behind xxxx method. Then YOU think you 'got me'. If I say xxxx is a great method, go ahead and test it.

You test it and it cant even pass 163 spins, then you AGAIN think you 'got me'.

Its a valid try on your part but you better switch to plan 'B' or something. Reading your posts, you sure do sound like someone I know. Do I care? Nope. How my wipes after sh****ng is more important than you. You won't slow me down from posting, stop waiting for it. AP (cough) is a load of BS guys, dont fall for it.

Ken

I'm not trying to put you in a corner at all. I just want to know your theory behind your systems aka methods. If it is valid then all will be nterested even APguys. The thing is that everyone that knows roulette knows you have nothing. You can call me a rookie and accuse me of not playing the game and I cannot disprove you. What I will tell you is that I play at least 3 x a week. For real in B&M casinos. Now that is a fact and you cannot disprove me. The question is, with your so-called knowledge and claims it is pretty clear that you do not play for real. If you do your so-called thick wallet is only in your mind. It is clear that you are only an antagonist and have no clear grounds to base your so-called questions. You still haven't answered the question I asked you. You sidestepped again. So if you can side ste, why does anyone have to answer your questions? You should go and sit down and have a hard think of what you are doing because it is not coming over very cleverly.

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 11:58:43 AM

"I play at least 3 x a week. For real in B&M casinos. Now that is a fact and you cannot disprove me" >>> Again, I look for consistency. Soooo, if I said I do *VERY* well playing methods, I shoot it back to you and say....you cannot disprove me! Correct? Same rule for everyone.

"with your so-called knowledge and claims it is pretty clear that you do not play for real" >>> I respect your opinion, thank you.

I answered your question. Ohhh, I get it. This is your way OUT of answering mine.

Your style of roulette play is what? There are *KEY* words you want me to say, so you can ATTACK. It won't happen rookie, stop waiting for it.

Ken

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:01:54 PM

@System (aka: past poster) >> Do you feel you have 'beat' roulette?

Ken

System · July 30, 2011, 12:05:21 PM

Quote from: Mr J on July 30, 2011, 11:58:43 AM
"I play at least 3 x a week. For real in B&M casinos. Now that is a fact and you cannot disprove me" >>> Again, I look for consistency. Soooo, if I said I do *VERY* well playing methods, I shoot it back to you and say....you cannot disprove me! Correct? Same rule for everyone.

"with your so-called knowledge and claims it is pretty clear that you do not play for real" >>> I respect your opinion, thank you.

I answered your question. Ohhh, I get it. This is your way OUT of answering mine.

Your style of roulette play is what? There are *KEY* words you want me to say so, you can ATTACK. It won't happen rookie, stop waiting for it.

Ken

Come on Ken,

So anyone canjust say there opinion are top sectret and that that is that. How can you expect anyone to answer you if you cannot answer them? Give it a rest Ken. Go your way with gusto and joy. Really I have no problem with that, neither would Kelly and co. Just don't expect answers (which you have no interest in anyway) if you are not willing to answer from your side. Simple.

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:16:27 PM

So anyone canjust say there opinion are top sectret and that that is that. How can you expect anyone to answer you if you cannot answer them? Give it a rest Ken. Go your way with gusto and joy. Really I have no problem with that, neither would Kelly and co. Just don't expect answers (which you have no interest in anyway) if you are not willing to answer from your side. >>>> Nice try, I answered you already. Still waiting on you sir:

A) Your style of roulette play is what?

B) Do you feel you have 'beat' roulette?

Ya see guys, he won't answer these two questions for a REASON. He knows the reason, I know the reason.

Ken

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:19:42 PM

Would you say that you agree with this? >>

"If I say......there's really no math behind xxxx method. Then YOU think you 'got me'. If I say xxxx is a great method, go ahead and test it.

You test it and it cant even pass 163 spins, then you AGAIN think you 'got me'."

Ken

System · July 30, 2011, 12:21:05 PM

I have not beaten the game of roulette sufficiently. Far from it. I have good days and not so good days. The difference is that I know why. You don't. You live in a dream world and unfortunately are influencing other system players in believeing that they can win in the longterm. Which they won't. I'll go further. People are only subject to the 2,7% house edge if they have sufficient bankroll, otherwise they will loose way more.

System · July 30, 2011, 12:22:36 PM

Forget about the math. Show me why your system works. We all would like to see. No AP guy will dispute it if you can prove it. Simple.

Twocando · July 30, 2011, 12:27:13 PM

systems / methods can work if you use AP or VB.

The best is Pierre Basieux and Kimo Li

Math will take a big bankroll, but then it will work.

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:28:37 PM

"I have not beaten the game of roulette sufficiently" >>> That is the most PC answer I have ever read.

Good news for you (same rule for all)........I also have not beaten the game of roulette sufficiently.

"I have good days and not so good days" >>> HEY, ME TOO.

"unfortunately are influencing other system players in believeing that they can win" >>> You're half correct. What I am TRYING to do is tell the method guys, dont fall for this AP (cough) BS, they will be disappointed in the end. Dont be lazy trying to create a 'decent' method. The information is out there, look hard and put in a TON of hours. Trial and error guys!!!!

Ken

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:29:57 PM

Quote from: Twocando on July 30, 2011, 12:27:13 PM
systems / methods can work if you use AP or VB.

The best is Pierre Basieux and Kimo Li

Math will take a big bankroll, but then it will work.

Your AP (cough) tactics are nothing more than gamblers fallacy. Just about everybody knows this.

Ken

Mr J · July 30, 2011, 12:30:58 PM

STILL WAITING

Would you say that you agree with this? >>

"If I say......there's really no math behind xxxx method. Then YOU think you 'got me'. If I say xxxx is a great method, go ahead and test it.

You test it and it cant even pass 163 spins, then you AGAIN think you 'got me'."

Ken

System · July 30, 2011, 12:31:36 PM

Quote from: Twocando on July 30, 2011, 12:27:13 PM
systems / methods can work if you use AP or VB.

The best is Pierre Basieux and Kimo Li

Math will take a big bankroll, but then it will work.

point taken and I do agree

System · July 30, 2011, 12:31:36 PM

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