Hello!
I'd like to contribute to this forum. My system is called zmija.Mozete bet on: black and red, 1 - 18, and 19 - 36, odd, even, ... The formula by which the unit is installed: 2,1,1, or 2,1,1,1. When we follow the formula 2,1,1. this means that 2 X we put the same bet not one color, then X 1 and the opposite one another on opposite X and so on. Example: Black, Black, Red, crna.Onda continue on Red, Red, Black, Red. and so on ... Example lakste to understand:
First spin - red.
Second spin - red.
Third spin - black.
4th spin - red.
It is a way of setting tokens: 2,1,1. in the sequel we will continue ...
5th spin - black.
6th spin - black.
7th spin - red.
8th spin - black.
You must have corel draw software to see how the snake (the system).
click on the snake (red dots) in the picture and you walk up and down at the table.
where red dots down there or you get lost (1 or 0) in the worst cases, you will lose 6X or 7 X dobijate.Uz mild progression you will be positive.
PROGRESSION:
1,1,3,6,12,24,48 ...
1,1,2,5,10,20,40 ...
1,1,2,4,9,18,36 ...
This system can lose only if the infinitely repeated combination of 2,1,1 ... In all other combinations going into debt MAX - 6
I would like to examine some hate me more to draw in Corel ...
klaki
Klaki - If you use the spellcheck & preview windows (same area as post window) before you post, it will show up words that don't make sense to us English only readers. Also grammar & meaning has to fit as well. Like what does dobijate.Uz mean? Also lakste? crna.Onda? zmija.Mozete? walk up and down the table? some HATE me more to draw?
As I've said in a reply in one of your other posts some real spin examples with a full English explaination would help a lot. Thanks.
Quote from: ausguy on March 24, 2012, 03:55:09 PM
Klaki - If you use the spellcheck & preview windows (same area as post window) before you post, it will show up words that don't make sense to us English only readers. Also grammar & meaning has to fit as well. Like what does dobijate.Uz mean? Also lakste? crna.Onda? zmija.Mozete? walk up and down the table? some HATE me more to draw?
As I've said in a reply in one of your other posts some real spin examples with a full English explaination would help a lot. Thanks.
--dobijate=you win
--lakste=easier
--crna=black
--onda=then
--zmija=snake
--mozete=you can
mc - seeing that you've jumped in - keep going and interpret "walk up and down the table" & "some hate me more to draw. "
Also having mixed languages on an English oriented forum thread does next to nothing to enhance understanding of the nuts and bolts of a system?
from my experience: roulette HATES consistent patterns on a long run. It kills them with no mercy.
Quote from: mcmonaco on March 24, 2012, 04:39:41 PM
--dobijate=you win
--lakste=easier
--crna=black
--onda=then
--zmija=snake
--mozete=you can
Sory ai don t now speak for englisch i use google translate and how it translates to is this.
Ausguy,
Just only tried to help interpreting some words,but as far
as system goes,wouldn't have a clue what he meant.
Quote from: klaki on March 25, 2012, 03:11:32 AM
Sory ai don t now speak for englisch I use google translate and how it translates to is this.
You can explain your system in your own language here
then I will interpret it to members,if you wish.
Quote from: iggiv on March 24, 2012, 09:28:51 PM
from my experience: roulette HATES consistent patterns on a long run. It kills them with no mercy.
The only thing to write in Serbian and you translate that into google translate might be more reasonable. We will try to put the file corel draw, but I noticed that there eksistenciju be unable to put in attach ...
Do it in Serbian,be ok.
Quote from: klaki on March 25, 2012, 03:23:47 AM
The only thing to write in Serbian and you translate that into google translate might be more reasonable. We will try to put the file corel draw, but I noticed that there eksistenciju be unable to put in attach ...
Hvala
SNAKE :
Dakle da pocnemo : Sistem se zasniva na dve mogucnosti : Na ruletu mozemo da DOBIJEMO ili da IZGUBIMO.
To su osnovne dve mogucnosti koje mogu da se dese.(Nulu cemo da zanemarimo radi lakseg objasnjenja sistema)
Mozemo igrati na boju,(crna ili crvena) ili na manje i vece brojeve (1 - 18 ili na 19 - 36) ili na (par i nepar).Razmatracemo igru na boju kao primer.
Dakle kao sto rekoh postoje samo dve mogucnosti da POGODIMO ili da PROMASIMO (boju na koju smo igrali).
Prema tome to se moze predstaviti kao (dobitak = 1) ili (gubitak = 0 ). Koliko ce puta izaci crna ili crvena boja,
to se prikazuje sa binarnim kombinacijama prikazanim u attachu (1,0 1,0 0,1 0,1 0,1)... Predpostavimo da se
crna boja nalazi sa leve strane a crvena sa desne na platnu, i da je recimo crna izasla 3 puta a crvena 2 puta to bi onda slikovito izgledalo ovako :
R,B (R=REED CRVENA) (B=BLACK CRNA)
1,0 (spin 1) crvena izasla
1,0 (spin 2) crvena izasla
1,0 (spin 3) crvena izasla
0,1 (spin 4) crna izasla
0,1 (spin 5) crna izasla
Koliko se to puta moze desiti predstavljeno je u mogucim binarnim kombinacijama koje su date u slikama u attachu. ZMIJA predstavlja crvene tacke na slici.Crvene tacke su mesta gde smo stavili zeton za igru.(Jedan zeton
za jedan spin).Jedan spin uvek izgleda ovako : 1,0 ili 0,1.Tamo gde se nalazi broj 1 to znaci da je tu dobitak,a tamo gde je broj 0 to znaci da je to gubitak. Gore iznad imate primer jednog predstavljanja igre od 5 spinova.
(crvena je izasla 3 puta a crna 2 puta. To je prikaz jedne binarne kombinacije od 5 spinova.U atacchu su dati primeri binarnih kombinacija koje se mogu pojaviti prilikom igranja ruleta.Prikazani su u tabelama i u brojevima.
Gore na primer imamo binarnu kombinaciju : 3/2.Binarnih kombinacija naravno ima mnogo ali ja sam raznatrao samo one sa max-5 brojeva jer smatram da nema potrebe za kombinacije sa vise brojeva.
Sada cemo postaviti zmiju.Zmija izgleda ovako : 2,1,1. Sta to znaci?To znaci da cemo 2 puta postaviti zeton na
jednu boju za 2 spina,to jest da cemo 2 spina igrati na istu boju,pa sledeci spin na drugu boju pa opet na drugu boju,primer :
spin 1 = crna
spin 2 = crna
spin 3 = crvena
spin 4 = crna
Ovo je bio raspored stavljanja zetona za zmiju 2,1,1.Dalje se igra nastavlja po istom rasporedu.Sledi primer od 8 spinova :
spin 1 = crna
spin 2 = crna
spin 3 = crvena
spin 4 = crna
spin 5 = crvena
spin 6 = crvena
spin 7 = crna
spin 8 = crvena...
Kada ostvarite dobitak ponovo pratite raspored postavljanja zetona prema zmiji po semi 2,1,1. dok neostvarite sledeci dobitak.Ja obicno kada dobijem ostajem na toj boji koja je izasla dok neizgubim jer tako hvatam dobitnu seriju sto nije redak slucaj da izlazi ista boja 3,5,7,pa io vise puta za redom.
Ja sam u programu corel draw napravio tabelu binarnih kombinacija kako bih mogao da ispitam moje zmije.Sa
spustanjem zmije po tabeli i podizanjem zmije te okretanjem po horizontali pa opet setanjem gore i dole ja tako
vidim koliko je moja zmija uhvatila a koliko promasila po jednoj tabeli binarnih kombinacija.Po tim tabelama se vidi
sta moze izaci kad se igra rulet nema potrebe da se vrti beskonacno tocak ruleta ovako je moguce pregledati sve
moguce kombinacije koje mogu izaci na ruletu.Prema mom ispitivanju najvise se moze izgubiti 6 puta ali 7 put se dobija.Tako je zmija pokazala.Imamo 2 lose strane mog sistema.Prva je 0 a druga sto moze i do 6 puta da se izgubi.Kako resiti problem. Za gubitak od 6 puta ide progresija prikazana dole (mada je retko jer moze biti i -2 ili -3 -4 ) nemora uvek da se desi da se izgubi 6 puta.ali cim pocne progresija recimo predje 10 eura onda za svaki slucaj se pokriva 0 na tabli tako da se izgubi do 10 eura a ne 36 (ako uleti nula).Ako neizadje nula prilikom gubitaka 7.put dobijamo i u plusu smo za 1 jedinicu.Primeri moje progresije :
1,1,3,6,12,24,48...
1,1,2,5,10,20,40...
1,1,2,4,9,18,36...
U attach -u imate primere zmija (nisu sve uspesne) morate imati corel draw da bi videli kako radi zmija i sami proverili sta je pogodila a sta nije...ja nemogu ovde da stavim u attacs fajl (cdr) ali cu vam poslati e mailom ako ste zainteresovani.Hteo bih da malo poboljsamo moj sistem ako neko ima neku primedbu bila bi mi korisna...
Klaki.
Izvini prijatelju ali ovu tvoju zmiju ne mogu uhvatiti ni za rep ni glavu.
Stoga odustajem.
Sorry my friend but this snake of yours can't get its head nor a tail.
Am giving up.
запамтите једну ствар, рулет мрзи исте шаре на дужи рок. Она их убија без милости.
(remember, roulette HATES consistent patterns on a long run. It kills them with no mercy.)
Рулетка ненавидит те же самые шаблоны (образцы) и убивает их безжалостно в течение
длительного промежутка времени.
Iggiv,
Could you help here and tell klaki to just give a good set of wheel spins enough to cover all his corel red dot combinations and the bets needed. If he can keep it basic with just the wheel number bet choice and amount bet plus W or L.
Also tell him Serbian translation to English often does not have equal words and meanings in Google. Tell him to translate it then go to spell check on here before posting and it will show the unmatched serbian words. He will then have to go to a Serbian/English dictionary and find the right English words which he can then correct and then post it.
Thanks - Cheers - Hugh.
ausguy, I don't know Serbian, I know Russian, so I can understand a little, but I did translate with google translator as well and added some Russian for more clearance.
the best thing would be to ask our Croatian guys to communicate with him, their language is almost the same. I hope there be no Croatian-Serbian problems in communications here. Their war has been over for quite some time.
I can't give the advice about covering different patterns different ways, that's too complicated.
But I would give advice about testing like that: go to RX, download 20-100 k spins for each German wheel, and start working with each of them separately. Don't try to bet for long time,
just bet one "cycle" (I mean bet once till lose or win), then skip 1000 spins and bet again once,
and so on.
try different "gaps" of spins. try 1000, 2000, 3000 spins to skip.
playing for long time and skipping too few spins won't work on a long run, that's for sure.
but if a method has some merit, there is still chance it may work on hit-n-run ONCE IN A WHILE.
Lets say u come to casino, play once, and get the hell out of there to be back after a day or two, or even a week or two.
thats how it should be checked, I guess. If a few wheels show positive results like this then it does make sense to work with it.
and i don't trust progressions.
that's my 2 cents about it.
Quote from: mcmonaco on March 25, 2012, 07:27:04 AM
Izvini prijatelju ali ovu tvoju zmiju ne mogu uhvatiti ni za rep ni glavu.
Stoga odustajem.
Sorry my friend but this snake of yours can't get its head nor a tail.
Am giving up.
Proba igrati ovako: 2 spina levo,pa 1 desno,pa 1 levo,i to je to. Dakle: evo primer od 3 ciklusa :
levo,levo,desno,levo,desno,desno,levo,desno,levo,levo,desno,levo. toje to, za 3 ciklusa.
Quote from: klaki on March 25, 2012, 01:59:01 PM
Proba igrati ovako: 2 spina levo,pa 1 desno,pa 1 levo,I to je to. Dakle: evo primer od 3 ciklusa :
levo,levo,desno,levo,desno,desno,levo,desno,levo,levo,desno,levo. toje to, za 3 ciklusa.
This is what Klaki said;
Try to play thisway; 2 spins left then 1 spin right,then 1 spin left,and that's it.Well;here is example of 3 cycle;
left,left,right,left,right,right,left,right,left,left,right,left.That is it for 3 cycles.
Still can't grasp it....any of you can????
Quote from: iggiv on March 25, 2012, 12:54:41 PM
ausguy, I don't know Serbian, I know Russian, so I can understand a little, but I did translate with google translator as well and added some Russian for more clearance.
the best thing would be to ask our Croatian guys to communicate with him, their language is almost the same. I hope there be no Croatian-Serbian problems in communications here. Their war has been over for quite some time.
I can't give the advice about covering different patterns different ways, that's too complicated.
But I would give advice about testing like that: go to RX, download 20-100 k spins for each German wheel, and start working with each of them separately. Don't try to bet for long time,
just bet one "cycle" (I mean bet once till lose or win), then skip 1000 spins and bet again once,
and so on.
try different "gaps" of spins. try 1000, 2000, 3000 spins to skip.
playing for long time and skipping too few spins won't work on a long run, that's for sure.
but if a method has some merit, there is still chance it may work on hit-n-run ONCE IN A WHILE.
Lets say u come to casino, play once, and get the hell out of there to be back after a day or two, or even a week or two.
thats how it should be checked, I guess. If a few wheels show positive results like this then it does make sense to work with it.
and I don't trust progressions.
that's my 2 cents about it.
Hvala na komentaru. Pisacu na srpskom posto primecujem da se snalazite.Svaki sistem na duze staze ima manje sanse za uspeh,to mi je poznato.Zato se igra u toku igre moze menjati,nemora se stalno igrati na boju.Sema je ista (2,1,1,) ali moze se igrati na boju (crna,crvena) na manje vece (1-18) (19-36) i na ( par i nepar). A i kad se
igra samo na boju kod dobitka se ostaje na dobitnoj boji dok traje serija recimo dobije crvena (a tu smo stavili zeton) i sledece spinove igramo na crven dok god izlazi a to moze biti i 10 puta? Dakle uhvatili smo seriju i dobri smo 10 jedinica.A kad izgubimo (izadje crna) vracamo se na nasu semu (2,1,1,) i nastavljamo po njoj.Prosto zar ne.Jedina slaba strana je to sto se moze nonstop neprekidno ponavljati kombinacija 2,1,1, u nedogled ali to bi
vec znacilo da nas casino prati elektronskim putem i ja vise nikad nebih onda igrao u takvom casinu,jer on onda vara.A sto se tice progresije :
+
1,1,3,6,12,24,48...
+
1,1,2,5,10,20,40...
+
1,1,2,4,9,18,36...
Plus iznad broja oznacava prelazak u profit od +1.To je neka vrsta odlozene progresije,tako da ako dobijemo na nekom stepenu pre znaka + onda smo na pozitivnoj nuli a posle znaka + onda profitiramo za +1 jedinicu. Ostaje nam samo 0 na ruletu ali i nju mozemo pokriti kaudjemo u progresiju od recimo 4 gubitka za redom,onda cemo zavrsiti seriju (kada dobijemo) sa 0 (bez +1 jedinica) zbog nule na kojoj smo stavili zeton,ali to je opet bolje nego da izadje 0 a da je nismo pokrili,a ako je pokrijemo onda moze slobodno da izadje jer onda dobijamo 36 eura ! i opet profitiramo.Jedina slaba tacka je beskonacno ponavljanje izlazne kombinacije (2,1,1,) ali to se moze spreciti recimo da cak i 7(sedmi spin) nedobijemo! onda odmah prelazimo na drugu vrstu igre ali po istoj semi :
na manje vece (1-18) (19-36) i na ( par i nepar).
Klaki
Ig & Mc, still trying to make sense of Klakis information. It doesn't help that it's spread over 3 seperate threads = 1. Klaki, 2. Snake & 3. Snake 2.
The Corel down loads, particularly Snake 2, give most of the basics of the binary bet patterns.
Due to the enlargements some of the detail is lost. There is a pattern index on the left hand image of 17 different variants. There are some errors in the index order of lines 3,4 & 5 that mismatch the binary columns. Column 7 is hidden but is probably a 2,2,1,1. pattern using the 7th line on the pattern index.
The 17 patterns vary from 10 to 16 lines. 3 Progressions are shown 1 - 48, 1- 40 & 1 - 36 ?
How all this operates is the tough question at the moment ?
Like how do the betting triggers work? When and why do the binary columns change? Does one column follow on from the other? Why 3 different progressions. How do all 3 of the outside bet sets work here? High/low, odd/even, red/black.
More information is needed and then it can be tested.
The Serbian/English language barrier may be too great here so maybe you have it right MCMonarco and giving up is the best thing to do?
honestly i don't get too much of this info. I just saw some stiff "snake" patterns, so i decided to do what i should do in this situation. To warn u guys against being carried away by short time winnings and making conclusion, that this stuff is gonna work on a long run consistently. It won't.
it is possible may be used though carefully somehow with hit-run. But very carefully. and better combine the stuff with others. Anyway dont even think going real normal money play based on some good 100 or 200 spin results
Ig - being very cautious with all this. If we/I can find out more about it I would test it with lots of real spin results. If it doesn't work in testing then I sure ain't going to spend any money on it that's for sure.
Besides as I've already said in my previous post - The Serbian/English language barrier may be too great. I may be on the nowhere with all this?
Quote from: ausguy on March 25, 2012, 04:42:46 PM
Ig & Mc, still trying to make sense of Klakis information. It doesn't help that it's spread over 3 seperate threads = 1. Klaki, 2. Snake & 3. Snake 2.
The Corel down loads, particularly Snake 2, give most of the basics of the binary bet patterns.
Due to the enlargements some of the detail is lost. There is a pattern index on the left hand image of 17 different variants. There are some errors in the index order of lines 3,4 & 5 that mismatch the binary columns. Column 7 is hidden but is probably a 2,2,1,1. pattern using the 7th line on the pattern index.
The 17 patterns vary from 10 to 16 lines. 3 Progressions are shown 1 - 48, 1- 40 & 1 - 36 ?
How all this operates is the tough question at the moment ?
Like how do the betting triggers work? When and why do the binary columns change? Does one column follow on from the other? Why 3 different progressions. How do all 3 of the outside bet sets work here? High/low, odd/even, red/black.
More information is needed and then it can be tested.
The Serbian/English language barrier may be too great here so maybe you have it right MCMonarco and giving up is the best thing to do?
The basic scheme (form) for the chosen snake is 2,1,1. I have tried to do more snakes but this proved to be my best. Table of binary combinations, I worked in corel draw and a snake because it's very convenient program which can do everything I need in order to shift the tables of various snakes examined all my snakes that I did. Opening corel draw get a screen display on the monitor and then open the program (Snagit) that would create a painting as the image in (jpg) egsistenciji of a file in corel draw (cdr) formatu.Zato I made pictures (jpg) to be could put in attach. The attach can not be explicitly set the file (cdr)
By nice when setting attach the formats can be fastened to the post. Leave me your e mail I will send you (cdr) colelov file and you will see everything if you have installed corel state program.Nista not deliberately hidden by the dropped files. As far as progression is slightly reduced so that only the number where the + sign above the cross of + 1 (profit)
One must see the whole file, but the cdr formatu.
Klaki - Can you show a full test of your SNAKE SYSTEM with your bets plus wins and losses using roulette wheel numbers?
For example - go to CHILD BOARD site on this VLS Forum. Look on page 1 - go down to 7th last thread from bottom = PATTERNS - click on that. Find post by Member BOMBUS reply# 10 - Date
December 29 - 2011. 05: 49 :29am. BOMBUS used spin numbers from Live dealer online Roulette Dublinbet. He listed 300 spins.
This is only to help you to show us how to bet YOUR SNAKE SYSTEM. HOW TO SET IT OUT so we can then test your system also.
The PATTERN SYSTEM has nothing to do with your SNAKE play.
It is just an easy way to explain everything as it's a betting picture. Writing an explaination with 1,000's of words is always tough.
Klaki - Correction for BOMBUS post - Go to Full Roulette Systems - Then follow the PATTERNS information.