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its the 9 eva side everyone and it is looking rearly good from my point of view.
bankroll £5,000.

system stake £1,710 units if lose start again

you will make £150 per hour and if we lose it only takes 11 hours to reach even and i had 6,000 spins without a single loss.

5 hours a day for a month thats 8400 spins

with 0 losses = +£21000
with 3 losses = +£16000
with 10 losses = +£4000


this is the one everyone i guarenee it this time thanks


mattjono

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this is 6,00 spins with a thew losses even know i havnt seen a loss it could happen.


anyone teting this will see exactly the same profit pattern as mine from a 1min spin


mattjono

Okay... so far, so good. Sounds promising. ;)
We're looking forward to further explanations, matey! :thumbsup:

Good luck,
m

P.S.
Congrats on the big win tonight mate, that's three points clear of scousers!

anyone know how i put a picture showing on to a message on the forum please

:o

Quote from: MATTJONO on January 27, 2009, 11:03:28 PM
anyone know how i put a picture showing on to a message on the forum please

:o

First option: upload your image somewhere, then use the [img] tag.
Second option: attach it to the message, I believe all common image formats (JPEG, GIF, PNG) should be fine.

Good luck,
m

[quote author=MATTJONO link=topic=6082.msg37211#msg37211 date=1233103530]
its the 9 eva side everyone and it is looking rearly good from my point of view.
bankroll £5,000.

system stake £1,710 units if lose start again

you will make £150 per hour and if we lose it only takes 11 hours to reach even and i had 6,000 spins without a single loss.

5 hours a day for a month thats 8400 spins

with 0 losses = +£21000   with 3 losses = +£16000
with 10 losses = +£4000


this is the one everyone i guarenee it this time thanks


mattjono
[/quote]


kingspin says where is this 9 either side thing.??? Sounds worth having a go at !!!!!! :thumbsup: cool guy matt[quote

I saw the 9 eva system somewhere to mention? Where is it? Mattjono what is your strategy on 9 eva (or Adam, who cares)?
Thanks for your kindness.
I missed the forum for some time because I got 2 LapTop crashes in row and have 2 times built my laptop windows from scratch. The f****n antivirus software sellers throw trojans and other malware in the Internet and when your computer get infected they push you to buy their crap antispyware. How they know that you cought virus? They follow their viruses up to infected computers and then offer a help!
One of the criminals is nolinks.antispyknight.biz/227 (nolinks://nolinks.antispyknight.biz/227), other one is BigRed. What the f****n Internet police is doing? Sleeping?
Cheers Hermes  >:(

man, there are alot of antivirus software out there that look like legit antivirus programs, but in fact are viruses...dont get sucked into these e.g Antivirus 2009...there are many others....go with the best, you cannot beat Kaspersky Internet Security...those Russians really know there stuff...i've been using it for years and i download 24/7...its the only one i trust....NAV and McAfee are crap compared to Kaspersky...i heard BitDefender is pretty good too, but Kaspersky has never let me down...

I use the NOD 32 anti-virus and have it set to check 3 times a week. exellent  :)

i would say i am the creator of the 9 eva side system.

1. well we know that if we play roulette looking at the board layout that is a big huge jigsaw of maths and genius to rob us £££.

2. now we play something easy so around 19 numbers and use a progression on the set of numbers that you know with testing 10,000 spins will not go as far as ??   times and if it does go past the progression it will take around 5-10hours to make it even.

3.then play 2 different things at once that you know that will be very very rare of a loss lets say once every 5,000 spins we would still be in profit.


i know i blab on but yes i did create this 9eva side system

Sounds interesting Mattjono.

Do you mind sharing more detail on how it's played?

Andre yes i agree i for 1 would need to know more .What is the betting plan etc etc . Please Matt lets just have a little more info.Do come back soon Thanks Colin

w= the ball has landed on the system number and after 3 times not hitting the system numbers we do a 6 step progression.

below is only a thew spins from all my testing


spin                   lastnumber                           2nd las numbr                          profit                                    profit so far

5      W                            £2,214.00
1      W         W                   £2,214.00
36               W                   £2,214.00
28                                  £2,214.00
17               W                   £2,214.00
9               W                   £2,214.00
23               W                   £2,214.00
24      W         W          £28.00           £2,242.00
5      W         W                   £2,242.00
6      W                            £2,242.00
10      W         W                   £2,242.00
22                                  £2,242.00
34               W                   £2,242.00
20               W                   £2,242.00
24      W                   £17.00           £2,259.00
29               W                   £2,259.00
16      W         w                   £2,259.00
28               w                   £2,259.00
25                                  £2,259.00
10                                  £2,259.00
23      w                   £17.00           £2,276.00
0                                  £2,276.00
21      w                            £2,276.00
14                                  £2,276.00
12      w         w          £18.00           £2,294.00
5               w                   £2,294.00
11      w                            £2,294.00
12                                  £2,294.00
17               w                   £2,294.00
11      w                            £2,294.00
21      w         w                   £2,294.00
12      w                            £2,294.00
1                                  £2,294.00
17                                  £2,294.00
17      w                            £2,294.00
4      w                            £2,294.00
27      w         w          £28.00           £2,322.00
11      w                            £2,322.00
23      w         w                   £2,322.00
29                                  £2,322.00
16      w         w                   £2,322.00
5      w                            £2,322.00
33      w         w                   £2,322.00
22      w                            £2,322.00
17                                  £2,322.00
36      w                            £2,322.00
7                                  £2,322.00
34               w          £15.00           £2,337.00
7                                  £2,337.00
17               w                   £2,337.00
11      w                   £15.00           £2,352.00
31                                  £2,352.00
10      w         w                   £2,352.00
29               w                   £2,352.00
1      w         w                   £2,352.00
22      w         w                   £2,352.00
28      w         w                   £2,352.00
30                                  £2,352.00
10      w                            £2,352.00
36      w         w                   £2,352.00
25      w                            £2,352.00
20                                  £2,352.00
20      w                            £2,352.00
34               w          £17.00           £2,369.00
3                                  £2,369.00
30               w                   £2,369.00
6      w                   £17.00           £2,386.00
2      w         w                   £2,386.00
27      w         w                   £2,386.00
35               w                   £2,386.00
36               w                   £2,386.00
9               w                   £2,386.00
6               w                   £2,386.00
4      w                   £15.00           £2,401.00
19      w         w                   £2,401.00
4      w         w                   £2,401.00
35      w         w                   £2,401.00
30                                  £2,401.00
20      w                            £2,401.00
22      w                            £2,401.00
7      w         w          £17.00           £2,418.00
1      w         w                   £2,418.00
17                                  £2,418.00
12                                  £2,418.00
28      w                            £2,418.00
13                                  £2,418.00
0               w          £15.00           £2,433.00
16               w                   £2,433.00
20      w                   £17.00           £2,450.00
7      w                            £2,450.00
4                                  £2,450.00
16                                  £2,450.00
25               w          £15.00           £2,465.00
22               w                   £2,465.00
17               w                   £2,465.00
9               w                   £2,465.00
7      w                   £18.00           £2,483.00
20      w         w                   £2,483.00
33      w         w                   £2,483.00
13                                  £2,483.00
0                                  £2,483.00
6               w                   £2,483.00
6      w                   £17.00           £2,500.00
29               w                   £2,500.00
36               w                   £2,500.00
10      w                            £2,500.00
33      w         w                   £2,500.00
19                                  £2,500.00
5               w                   £2,500.00
26               w                   £2,500.00
15      w                   £17.00           £2,517.00
12      w         w                   £2,517.00
22      w                            £2,517.00
6                                  £2,517.00
21      w                            £2,517.00
18                                  £2,517.00
7      w                            £2,517.00
15      w                            £2,517.00
14               w          £18.00           £2,535.00
17               w                   £2,535.00
31               w                   £2,535.00
30               w                   £2,535.00
17      w                   £15.00           £2,550.00
17      w         w                   £2,550.00
32      w                            £2,550.00
19      w         w                   £2,550.00
16                                  £2,550.00
14      w                            £2,550.00
7      w                            £2,550.00
23               w          £17.00           £2,567.00




ill explain more ask more questions if you need help :-X :-X :-X

;)mattjono

Hi Mattjono,

what is your 6 step progression?

cheers  ;)

Quote from: MATTJONO on January 27, 2009, 10:45:30 PM
5 hours a day for a month thats 8400 spins

8400 spins/30.5 days/5 hours = 55 spins per hour

where you play ??

i dont trust online casino to win thousands every month...

Hi MATTJIONO
Would you please show your detail system?
Best regards.
Dinh

I've done a short 100 spin test on this to see what it hits or miss's like:

H= 9 eva side from last # Hits

M= 9 eva side from last # Miss's

Overall 51 Hits 49 Miss's

# of Hits once in a row:      10
# of Hits twice in a row:       9
# of Hits 3 times in a row:    5
# of Hits 4 times in a row:    2
# of hits 5 times in a row:    0

-----------------------------

# of miss's once in a row:    8
# of miss's twice in a row:   10
# of miss's 3 times in a row: 5
# of miss's 4 times in a row: 2
# of miss's 5 times in a row: 1
# of miss's 6 times in a row: 0

9      
5   H   
36   H   
20   M   
18   H   
26   H   
8   M   
25   H   
25   H   
22   M   
8   M   
1   H   
12   M   
34   M   
11   H   
3   M   
30   M   
23   H   
11   H   
4   M   
16   M   
13   H   
34   H   
33   M   
30   M   
5   H   
16   H   
10   H   
32   M   
35   H   
4   H   
17   H   
1   M   
30   H   
5   H   
13   H   
15   M   
20   M   
3   M   
2   H   
2   H   
10   M   
14   H   
15   M   
9   M   
32   M   
24   M   
8   H   
5   H   
22   H   
33   H   
6   M   
1   M   
30   H   
11   H   
21   H   
29   M   
14   H   
31   H   
2   M   
26   H   
27   M   
7   M   
29   H   
20   H   
19   M   
23   M   
12   M   
17   M   
1   M   
23   H   
29   M   
1   H   
32   M   
36   M   
6   H   
29   M   
8   M   
35   M   
14   H   
0   M   
29   H   
4   M   
29   M   
31   H   
24   H   
5   H   
3   M   
14   M   
3   M   
5   M   
24   H   
29   M   
13   M   
30   H   
23   H   
9   M   
33   H   
33   H   
23   H   
11   H   


I make that 8 betting opportunities all winners but whats the progression??

Cheers,

M

Matt exampled a six step prog in the testing area

Regards

Clint

Quote from: MATTJONO on January 03, 2009, 06:09:58 PM
you need £1,710 to start. and will make average £200 per hour.

wait for the ball to land 10 or more away from the last number or the second to last number 3 times in a row.
example

23,36,3,12,27,3,24

that will look like this when recording

hit
wait
hit
wait
wait
wait
bet here £1 win 17
bet £2 win 15
£5 win 28
£10 win 18
£22 win 32
£50 win 90


this i have never seen it go past the progression but i know ryan 08 has seen this lose once.

cheers clint.

wait
wait
wait
1
2
5
10
22 or 25
50 if 25 then 60



im on excel now and im making it alot easier to bet iv got 0-36 top - bottom and the numbers in order the 9eva side numbers =19numbrs

0..   2   3   4   7   12   15   17   18   19   21   22   25   26   28   29   32   34   35

1..   5   7   8   9   10   11   14   16   18   20   22   23   24   29   30   31   33   36



this will make it rearly easy

mattjono

Here is the Excel spreadsheet kindly donated by Kawa4711 previously.

Regards

Clint

Thanks Clint,

So thats

1
2
5
10
22
50

on each number.

I play at dublinbet or jebet

so would have to be jebet using.

0.50   +8.5
1       +7.5 
2       +5.5       
4.5     +10   
10     +18
20     +8   

-712 on a loss  :(

risky stuff.
 

Quote from: mananova on January 29, 2009, 04:09:21 PM
Thanks Clint,

So thats

1
2
5
10
22
50



on each number.

I play at dublinbet or jebet

so would have to be jebet using.

0.50   +8.5
1       +7.5 
2       +5.5       
4.5     +10   
10     +18
20     +8   

-712 on a loss  :(

risky stuff.
 

no please have faith put £1500 in your dublin bet and play for 4 hours a day for 10 days thats 2,400spins
0 losses = +£3,000
1 loss = +£2288
2 loss = +£1576


no point in even telling you the rest you get the point you wont be down aslong as you are on a live wheel not rng.

im saying that the chances of losing on this is alot lower than playing red/black id say if it went 14times red thats the same as the 9 eva side doing 10 times i just hate how the reds/blacks/high/low the numbers set out on the board. this system gives us a better advantge that martingale on even chance.(oppinion)

                                                   

such progression (40x) is impossible on dublinbet

table limit are 0.50$ to 10$ or 2$ to 25$

Quote from: kompressor on January 29, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
such progression (40x) is impossible on dublinbet

table limit are 0.50$ to 10$ or 2$ to 25$

True but Jebet (dublinbet sister site) is  0.50 to 20

so,

0.50   +8.5
1       +7.5 
2       +5.5       
4.5     +10   
10     +18
20     +8

is about all you could manage.

regards

The big question is  are you playing this method for real money or just mickey mouse money ? ( fun money)
matt. Playing a system on fun money is easier. Much easier to win with mickey mouse chips.

Ok here is another way to play this,

Going by this i posted earlier from my 100 spins:

# of Hits once in a row:      10
# of Hits twice in a row:       9
# of Hits 3 times in a row:    5
# of Hits 4 times in a row:    2
# of hits 5 times in a row:    0

-----------------------------

# of miss's once in a row:    8
# of miss's twice in a row:   10
# of miss's 3 times in a row: 5
# of miss's 4 times in a row: 2
# of miss's 5 times in a row: 1
# of miss's 6 times in a row: 0

You can see how may times it hit twice in a row before changing.

So how about betting that after 2 Hits or Miss's in a row betting it will change.

Using the progression:


0.50   +8.5
1       +7.5 
2       +5.5       
4.5     +10   
10     +18
20     +8


#   H/M    w/l     /amount won  /matt's way w/l   /amount won matt's way

9                        
5   H                     
36   H                     
20   M         w   8.5         
18   H                     
26   H                     
8   M         w   17         
25   H                     
25   H                     
22   M         w   25.5         
8   M                     
1   H         w   34         
12   M                     
34   M                     
11   H         w   42.5         
3   M                     
30   M                     
23   H         w   51         
11   H                     
4   M         w   59         
16   M                     
13   H         w   68         
34   H                     
33   M         w   76.5         
30   M                     
5   H         w   85         
16   H                     
10   H         l            
32   M         w   92.5         
35   H                     
4   H                     
17   H         l            
1   M         w   100         
30   H                     
5   H                     
13   H         l            
15   M         w   107.5         
20   M                     
3   M         l            
2   H         w   115                 w                      8.5   
2   H                     
10   M         w   123.5         
14   H                     
15   M                     
9   M                     
32   M         l            
24   M         l                          l   
8   H         w   129                  w                      16   
5   H                     
22   H         l            
33   H         l            
6   M         w   134.5         
1   M                     
30   H         w   143         
11   H                     
21   H         l            
29   M         w   150.5         
14   H                     
31   H                     
2   M         w   159         
26   H                     
27   M                     
7   M                     
29   H                     
20   H                     
19   M         w   167.5         
23   M                     
12   M         l            
17   M         l            
1   M         l                               l   
23   H         w   177.5                  w                      21.5   
29   M                     
1   H                     
32   M                     
36   M                     
6   H         w   186         
29   M                     
8   M                     
35   M         l            
14   H         w   193.5                   w                       30   
0   M                     
29   H                     
4   M                     
29   M                     
31   H         w   202         
24   H                     
5   H         l            
3   M         w   209.5         
14   M                     
3   M         l            
5   M         l            
24   H         w   215                   w                        37.5   
29   M                     
13   M                     
30   H         w   223.5         
23   H                     
9   M         w   232         
33   H                     
33   H                     
23   H         l                                                                  
11   H        l


On the + side plenty more wins  :)   

Only down side i can see is 1 less to the progress because of starting from 2 and not 3.           

Hi Mattjono,

Nice work but I think you should check your spreadsheet.

9 numbers either side of "1" go from the 11 to the 28, whereas you have taken it from the 36 to the 7.

Therefore, 36 is excluded and 28 is included.

Regards
Mocco

Another good session only went to the 4th progression twice.


4         
8   M      
8   H      
2   M      
23   M      
17   H   W   8.5
18   M      
21   M      
9   M   L   
17   M   L   
4   H   W   14
36   H      
13   H   L   
13   H   L   
36   H   L   
17   H   L   
9   M   W   24
4   M      
0   H   W   32.5
34   H      
15   H   L   
31   M   W   40
29   H      
13   M      
9   M      
7   H   W   48.5
29   H      
0   H   L   
36   M      
10   H      
14   H      
29   H   L   
13   M   W   56
20   M      
35   M   L   
24   M   L   
5   H   W   61.5
35   M      
22   H      
24   H      
0   M   W   70
17   H      
21   H      
17   H   L   
34   H   L   
21   H   L   
19   H   L   
14   M   W   80
35   H      
3   H      
30   M   W   88.5
5   H      
33   H      
18   H   L   
17   M   W   96
1   M      
22   H   W   104.5
30   M      
25   H      
26   H      
13   M   W   113
23   H      
28   M      
14   H      
6   M      
5   H      
10   H      
0   M   W   121.5
20   M      
8   H   W   
20   H      
8   H   L   
29   M   W   129
2   M      
16   M   L   
10   H   W   137.5
2   M      
0   H      
1   M      
30   H      
8   H      
10   H   L   
27   H   L   
29   M   W   143
9   H      
14   H      
13   M   W   151.5
1   M      
16   H   W   160
13   H      
34   H   L   
2   H   L   
29   M   W   165.5
25   M      
31   M   L   
36   M   L   
6   H   W   171
15   H      
23   M   W   179.5
24   H      
4   M      

well i would say an even better and safer way to play this but as most on here are ignorant...

Quote from: mananova on January 29, 2009, 09:34:23 PM
well i would say an even better and safer way to play this but as most on here are ignorant...

wel im here for any advice to make this system even better and better we have the basic for now but we should not be greedy.

i could look at all my stats and see how many times it has gone ==

MISS
MISS
HIT   
MISS
HIT
MISS
HIT   (COLD NOW HAVE A BET ON A REPEAT 6 STEP PROGRESSION)
MISS
HIT
HIT   AND WE WIN


OR



M
M
H
H
M
M
H
H
M
M  POTENCIAL BET HERE TO BE A MISS NEXT AND SO ON UTIL XXZZXXZZXXZZ PATTERN BREAKING
H
H



AND SO ON AND SO ON ITS ENDLESS ILL GET INFO


mattjono 8)

extra stats while playing this system if while playing you get a win on eva the 5th bet or the 6th bet keep track of where the ball has landed from the last number the max i have seen 7 eva side go is 14 so we have basickly already waited for 8,9 times with us winning on the 5th or 6th progression bet.

basickly if while playing if you see it go 12 times without hitting 7 eva side do a 1,2,4,6 progression

if while playing if you see it go 16 times without hitting 3 eva side do a someting like 1,1,2,3,4,5 progression

just extra bets rare once tho


mattjono

could it be possible to lets say microsoft excel or a programme to tel us whever or not it has lets say
waited 3 times for the 9 eva side it would let us know
waiting 12 times for not 7eva side it would let us know

could do it from 18 eva side to 1 eva side

we could set the waits to the particular number


please help i think this could maybe be done



or should i just get the system proved to you all first then see how we can go from there i havnt even made any money yet on the old dole  >:(      (bookies r.n.g RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED)  or did i just not have the knowlage i have know of what not to play

Quote from: MATTJONO on January 29, 2009, 11:19:36 PM
could it be possible to lets say microsoft excel or a programme to tel us whever or not it has lets say
waited 3 times for the 9 eva side it would let us know
waiting 12 times for not 7eva side it would let us know

could do it from 18 eva side to 1 eva side

we could set the waits to the particular number


please help i think this could maybe be done



or should i just get the system proved to you all first then see how we can go from there i havnt even made any money yet on the old dole  >:(      (bookies r.n.g RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED RIGGED)  or did i just not have the knowlage i have know of what not to play

Yep - I'm sure excel can do it.  I can assist you next week, but I'd need a better description of whats going on.  I haven't really been following this idea.

Cheers,
Matt

cheers mattymatz ill get my best explanation on the go for you, if in the future we could be working together to make this system better.

HOW TO PLAY.
We log onto a casino and the numbers are as follows
17,
30, this will be marked with an HIT - (hit system. number 9 Eva side)
22, this is a MISS it did NOT hit 9 Eva side of 30.
21, MISS
23, MISS this is the third time in a ROW that the ball has landed 10 or more away from the last num.
      After 3 misses we have to do a 6 step progression for it to HIT in the next 6 spins.
     Bet 1. = 1 unit on the 9 numbers Eva side of 23 on the wheel. (31 – Anticlockwise 19numbers - 17)
     So 19 units used on 31 round to 17 on the wheel is bet 1.       -19
26, this is a MISS it did NOT hit 9 Eva side of 23.
     Bet 2. = 2 unit on the 9 numbers Eva side of 26 on the wheel. (22 –clockwise 19numbers - 34)
     So 38 units used on 31 round to 17 on the wheel is bet 1.        -38
0, HIT it hit 9eva side of 26 (IF THIS WAS A MISS WE DO 9EVA SDIE OF THE NEW NUMBER)   +72                                                         

up +15units



HOPE THIS HELPS

How many steps does your progression go?

3 waits and 6 bets it has to go 10times in a row not landing 9 evaside of the last number.

its alot rare to see it lose because we have

1. 19numbers which is more than half

2. we play with the 0 it does not effect us as much as it would in other bets systems.

3. all other even chances odd/even red/black high/low these are scatterd cleverly all around the wheel. my system plays it like a real    even chance like a coin



my point is i think it would be alot easier or qucker or more often to get 10 reds in a row rarther than it not landing 9eva side of the last number 10 times in a row.


can people see where im coming from the board layout is a rig up to take our ££££ we should consentrate on the wheel.

::)

thanks mattjono

I have been trying to follow the play all weekend and finally found out why I was having a problem. I was looking at a 00 wheel for these single 0 examples.

Please check my understanding of your method.

As each # comes up, you check to see if it is within the 9#s on either side of the # before. (Thanks to Kawa4711 for posting the easy to read spreadsheet)

Then we wait until we have 3 times that the # that came up was not in that range.

Next we place the 3rd # and all of the 9#s on each side.

If we lose we start the progression 1,2,5,10,22,50 until we win or reach the last bet.

Ran this through some tests it looks good, going to try it live next week and need to know if I have it right.

I have also attached a Spreadsheet for the 00 wheel.

Thanks for posting.
Bob

I have been working on something similar and sorry to say, this can go up to 14 times, so you would need a 12 step progression to be confident. LOL

i do know this can lose but how rare is it beause the wins are more than a loss far more how many tmes have you seen this go past the 10th because it would only take 10hours to reach even again

mattjono

new bets to play with 9evaside

bet 1.

mis
hit     x
mis
mis
mis
6step progression until win


bet 2.

x
x
x

x1

x1


x1

x1

x1

x1

x1 bet here after 7 times no repeat 6step progression here for the x(hit to repeat) never seen go past 12th.


this can work with both the hits and miss both as effective its a safe bet however not alot of waiting when combing all you knowlage together


hope i explained o.k  ;)


bet 2.


x
x
x

x
x2

x
x2


x
x2



x
x2

x
x2 bet here not to 3hits in row and if not then next hit we bet a miss

Quote from: Phishalot on January 30, 2009, 06:44:43 PM
I have been trying to follow the play all weekend and finally found out why I was having a problem. I was looking at a 00 wheel for these single 0 examples.

Please check my understanding of your method.

As each # comes up, you check to see if it is within the 9#s on either side of the # before. (Thanks to Kawa4711 for posting the easy to read spreadsheet)

Then we wait until we have 3 times that the # that came up was not in that range.

Next we place the 3rd # and all of the 9#s on each side.

If we lose we start the progression 1,2,5,10,22,50 until we win or reach the last bet.

Ran this through some tests it looks good, going to try it live next week and need to know if I have it right.

I have also attached a Spreadsheet for the 00 wheel.

Thanks for posting.
Bob

ye you was correct i could make it work for the 00 table but no point when there is
one with single 0 lol.  what you have to remember when playing is set a resonable hour session lets say 3
hours a day using £171 stake 10p bets this is £15 per hour 1min table spins and £420 a week that means
you are able to lose twice within a week doing 1,260 spins a weeks there no chance you ever see 3 losses in
that no chance i had no losses in 6,000 spins and 1,000 more on n.r.g

Hi MATTJONO,
Could you plz present your system more clearly again?
What is 9 eva side?
Best regards.
Dinh

It is playing neighbors, except instead of 4 on each side, you are playing 9 on each side.

Good Luck
Bob

Hi all!

Please can someone confirm do I understand this system right:

Record the number hit (I.E 22)
Wait for 3 spins to miss the area of 9 eva-side numbers.
Start betting the 9 eva-side numbers (I.E. 22, 0, 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 24, 26, 28, 29, 31, 33, 35) with the progression: 1, 2, 5, 10, 22, 50

Now I'm not sure about:
Do I always take the last spin 9 eva-side numbers or do I take 9 eva-side numbers from the first spin (I.E. 22 -> and then I'm looking for hit in the 9 eva-side of 22 for next 9 spins)?

Thanks in advance for help.

Hi Phisalot,
Would you please give an example?
Cheers,
Dinh

I know we should not repair something that is not broken, but I was thinking about applying positive progression to this system.
Like in Tera-TNT, but we need to consider the table limits...

Dinh, you should download and open the files attached here it will help you understand. The single 0 chart was made by Kawa4711.

First I will explain where the #s of these charts come from as I think that is what you are asking. Then I will show my understanding of Mattjono's system.

Lets look at the #(33) if you find 33 on the wheel chart you will see that:
To the right of 33 are these nine #s (1,20,14,31,9,22,18,29,7)
To the left of 33 are these nine#s (16,24,5,10,23,8,30,11,36)

This is the 9 eva for (33).

The attached charts have figured this out for all the #s making it easier to play at the table. I have them printed out on 6x4 index cards, giving me 2 cards for each chart.

Here is an example of play;

First spin is (12)

Second Spin is (33) Now you look at the 12 row to see if 33 is on it. It is not so we have a (M) miss. I write down M in my tracking notebook.

Third spin is (15) We look for 15 in the 33 row. Another (M) miss

Forth spin is (33) Check row 15 for 33. Miss again (M)

That gives us three misses in a row (that is the trigger we are looking for)

So now we bet. We bet all the #s in the 33 row.
(33,1,5,7,8,9,10,11,14,16,18,20,22,23,24,28,29,30,31)

Our next spin we get a 16. WE WIN.

Then start again.

I pulled these spins from an old notebook. Usually it does not come out this easy. Most of the time the tracking looks like this: M,H,H,M,M,M then betting starts.

(H) is the mark I use when the # spun is in the row of the # before.


Hope this helps
Bob

Hi Phishalot,
Thank you very much!
I think this system is applied for the real wheel.
Best regards,
Dinh

Hi this is a great post and i hope it goes on for some time yet.I have a question  for MATT and all of you as  my bank would be very small to start  I would love to know at which online casino could 1 play for 1d  or 1 cent i would realy appreciate any advice you offer and i will give Matts 9aside a good go and tell you at a later date THAT I MADE MONEY , Thanks for all your time ever hopefull Colin

Hi all'
I guess I was pretty unlucky but this bombed on me fairly quickly.
Just be aware
TSK

Do you think it's a good idea to bet the second last number's 9-eva-side?

Because I've just had a losing session.
Have a look:
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White Knight you are right. Kaspersky is excellent. I have downloaded Kaspersky special for free but that one only cleans viruses if the HD is already infected. Not an active protection. The German Avira didn't even warned me that something is going on! Now I have AVAST for free and it looks like very solid antivirus system. I like it.
Hermes

Trylobit, it is three misses in a row.

Phisalot:

there was 3 misses in a row:

24
14
20 hit within 9evaside of 24
13 no hit within 9eva side of 14                                                                                            miss wait
19 no hit within 9eva side of 20                                                                                            miss wait
1 no hit within 9eva side of 13   -   thats 3rd miss so I start betting here: bet 9eva side of 19         miss bet
22 miss 1 (now bet 9 eva side of 1)                                                                                            no hit 1
13 miss 2 (now bet 9 eva side of 22)                                                                                          no hit 2
30 miss 3 (now bet 9 eva side of 13)                                                                                          no hit 3
32 miss 4 (now bet 9 eva side of 30)                                                                                          no hit 4
14 miss 5 (now bet 9 eva side of 32)                                                                                          no hit 5
9 miss 6                                                                                                                                no hit 6

Or do I understand the system wrong?

Trylobit, sorry I usually only play the first number and missed the second. You are correct in starting the play at the three miss trigger.

But there is something wrong. I have (22) being with in 9 eva of (1). Thought it might be a chart mix-up, so I checked the 00 chart too, and it also has (22) within 9 eva of (1). The only guess I have is if you are reading the charts you where off a line. (This has happened to me) or you are miss playing some how.

If you have the # bet on those, you could post them, then we could find the problem.

Good Luck
Bob

Ok.
I play this way:

when the trigger is 3misses in 9evaside of the second last number. I play the second last number.
so as you said 22 is in 9evaside of 1, but I was betting 9eva side numbers of 19.
do you know what I mean?
likewise: betting 9eva side numbers of 1 when 13 came up?

or do I do it wrong? Should I use the second last 9eva side only as a trigger and bet the last numbers 9eva-side?

I checked with examples of Mattjono and I play it right.
Maybe Mattjono can comment my game, is it right?

Cheers.
Trylobit.

yes you are playing this correct the reason for us playing the second to last number is that it had exactly the same results and profit as the last number and i have never seen a loss. i am most certain that this does lose its just far times rarer than seening 10 red/black odd/even.... even chances because these numbers are scatterd around the wheel.

find a 1p minimum bet casino.

deposit £17.10 and get used to the system when you finish a session let me know how many hours you did or want to do and ill tel you how much you will make.

£1.60p per hour 45sec spins for 4hours a night or spare time thats £6.40 a hour for 10 days thats £64 if you lose doesnt matter its just -17.10.

then when you are used to betting and are in profit.

do 10p minbets £12 perhour 1minspins

do £1 minbets £60 per hour 2minspins


mattjono :-X

cant you refer a casino suitable for you own system ?

joyland casino is a good one make sure you do not collect and bonus that the casino will offer you just deposit £17.10p and get making some money even if it is pennies its the fact that we need to cet confident and used to placing the bets.

could you please post you sessions becasue i would like to look at when we get far in our progression like the 5th and 6th bet whever or not there could be some sign of a pattern when it goes on a run then we can apply some not betting sistuations,

hope you all understand thanks mattjono

Hi!

I'm playing on joyland. The bad session from my previous post was from this casino as well.
I think it's a decent system, because before having a bad trot it made 888u.
I played 2 session after bad trot and it's recovering nicely.

I'll post some of my sessions soon.

Br.
Tryl.

As you can see the units per spin ratio is over 2,5 in this session.

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Hy Mattjono,

I like your system ! I try t read everything about it in this tread and in testing zone, but it is hard to memory all when you read  more than 10 pages at once  :D

I have question:

do you have record on relative big number of spins of how many times do you have hit and in what stage of progression it happens?


Example: if we look of that kind of record of red&black it should look something like this :

10 000 - that is number of spins
5 000 x color stays same  5 000 x color changes  so if you stay at same color you will win half of time but because of 0 - 2,7 %
2 500 x colors stays same 3 x in row again -2,7 %
1 250 x 4
625 x 5
312 x 6 always - 2,7 %
and so on continue divide it with 2

If i calculated correctly we can expect about 14 x repetitions of same color in 10 000 spins.

It is same chart for playing change of color and for following same color !

If we look at this and if we know simple math we can see why playing progression doesnt work no matter on what stage we began. Playing red should be same like playing any 18 numbers in wheel. You play 19 numbers and if you make chart it should be similar like this but if it act different than you have winning system !

this has to be played online for sure....

the only problem is....wich casino would let you win thousands every month ??

how long or how much before they pull the plug ??

this is what i am thinking maybe if you just make £12 per hour of the 10p bets and do 20 hours a week collect £240 a week with no losses. what can they do i have no idea  :-\ maybe when you reach the end two bets of you progression try to aim for the other side that you will not be betting on, or maybe stop you playing with that casino i dont know but like they say its a random game isnt it  ;D

i can look at past results spun and know within 10 seconds whever or not there is a bet on or not without recording,it will come naturally when playing this alot, i could if i had the money go casino tonight with £1710 walk casualy over to the table wait for 3 waits and bang we start progression 56%chance of winning the first bet hopefully this will win and im +£17, place around 7 chips on a totaly randon 7 numbers if win repeat if lose then just wait for the 3 waits to bet again on the system 9eva side this way with the £7 won we play a random bet if win repeat if lose we have lost we carnt win everytime... and we certanly dont want the casino to know. so play like this until around 5 wins on the system (9evaside) stop at a target of £100 then leave the table and go get a pint from the bar ? or wil i get it free. i am the guest and that who makes £100 a night 2 nights a week   >:D >:D

or is it all just
dreams  dreams dreams >:(


i do beleive this system could be a real winner alot more wins to losses    

table limit is a big issue when playing this in b&m casino....i know that i wouldnt be able to play this progression in my casino (max 10x)....the higher i can go is 25x and its a touchbet 00 wheels from 1$ to 25$ :-[


i believe you can win much than you lose with your system....i believe too that someone,somewhere will lose the 1710 units bankroll on his first attempt ....but my main problem is the reliability of online casinos....i've just read today on joyland that a girl won 4 000 000$ with slut...but in withdrawal section its clearly stated that the maximum you can withdraw is 9 000$ per month....what a scam....isnt it ??no way she's a millionaire and she will never be

if you want make a living....find something suitable for most b&m casino....you could travel the world and not beeing stuck at one monaco table till they kick your ass out

SO KNOW FOR THE FINKING LOL

right i have though of something and have looked at the first 1000s. here goes with the expanation.
we are recording as normal when playing the 9eva sdie system

with hits (H) means did hit 9pockets eva side of the last number
and
misses (M) means it did not hit 9pockets eva side of last number

so as recording we look for this pattern

H
H
M
H
M
M
M
M
M after 5 misses we have a trigger to start betting now we wait for the (H) in this case it come in 2 spins later
M
H TRIGGER we know flat bet 9eva side of the last number 19 units every spin from now on until we are -60 units or +30 units.
M-19
H+17
M-19
H+17
H+17
H+17   STOP NOW AS WE ARE +30UNITS     KNO HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER TRIGGER



IN 1,000 SPINS IT HAD 25 WINS =+750 AND 6 LOSSES-360   TOTAL PROFIT = £390


because of us only using a 60unit bank roll to win 30units when if session 1 is a -60 then in the next session use 2 units on each number and a target of +60

this could work ill do more tests

Just throwing this in as part of the discussion.

There can be streaks of Hits and Misses, just as for R/B, Hi/Lo etc. etc. If you were to flat bet following the last outcome (Hit or Miss) it seems to me that you would at least:

- break even if the outcomes were always HHMM or MMHH. The other play for a repetitive outcome like this would be to follow the pattern.
- be in front if the Hits exceeded the Misses, or viceversa.

As regards chops stop at the 3rd step of MHM or HMH and wait for it to end. This would minimise losses and protect profits. Or, play the chop, flat betting until it ends.

With regard to the 9 numbers either side for a "Miss" bet it is easy enough to put them together. I have done so, and added it to my Excel file of the one attached in an earlier post.

Steve

how can a put a graph on this forum page without having people to doanload it just to look at it

its my test of 1,000 spins its pritty impressive

it was only 2 losing sessions and 23 wins a total of +520 in 1,000spins i think it could be woth having a look how do i put the graph on this message  ??? ???

31      m   
10      h   
10      h   
0      m   
30      m   
26      m   
8      m   
1      h hit on the 5th or more then flatbet next   -60 or +25
1      h    £17.00
22      h    £17.00

it did this only once in 1000 spins.

M
H
M
M
M
M
M
M
H more than 5 miss then a hit
M
M
M
M
M
H more than 5 misses then hit




it only did this on one occasion had a run of 5 misses then hit then had another run of 5 misses or more not tested the rest yet

I want to write a code for this system on RX so can someone explain the system with more details and perhaps with an example?
Sorry but my english are not so good.

Just for information.

In my 10.000 spins the longest "no hitting" session was 17x.
There were also few 11x and 12x misses...

Quote from: upiwaly on February 03, 2009, 08:12:04 PM
Just for information.

In my 10.000 spins the longest "no hitting" session was 17x.
There were also few 11x and 12x misses...

yes this is exactly what i wanted somebody to show me some losses in the progression. in 10,000 spins how many times exactly did it go past the the progression if it only went past 3 times then that is still £1,000s of ££££ profit because it only takes you 800 spins max to make a loss back agan around 12 hours


thank you very much for the information

9x miss = 5
10x miss = 4
11x miss = 2
17x miss = 1

That is for 7291 spins ;)

upiwaly, can you post numbers for all miss ?

I said in my post that in 10 000 spins we can expect longest repetiton of 18 numbers or in this caste longest miss is 14 X ...
we have here:

9x miss = 5
10x miss = 4
11x miss = 2
17x miss = 1

I think it matches enought, but I would like to see whole statistic so we can see does it acts like any 19 numbers or different. Just one more question I guess this testing was not with real numbers? It make not sense to test this system on RNG numbers.

is this using the last number and the second to last number because even with them losses you would still be in +profit

I think this system is great. It has won more than it has lost for my part.
Had one recent loss and it got me thinking a little.

What do you think would be the consequenses if we stopped the progression at 4x?

It sure would mean more losses, but it would take shorter time to recover. I don't know how test properly or to make valid statistics, but if we have a bankroll of 171 or 1710 and stop loss at 4x what would happen? Will the losses outnumber the wins? What if we stop at 2x or 3x?

Hoping someone will take the challenge and find it out  :thumbsup:

Quote from: eightfour on February 05, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
I think this system is great. It has won more than it has lost for my part.
Had one recent loss and it got me thinking a little.

What do you think would be the consequenses if we stopped the progression at 4x?

It sure would mean more losses, but it would take shorter time to recover. I don't know how test properly or to make valid statistics, but if we have a bankroll of 171 or 1710 and stop loss at 4x what would happen? Will the losses outnumber the wins? What if we stop at 2x or 3x?

Hoping someone will take the challenge and find it out  :thumbsup:

I WILL DO JUST THAT GIVE ME SOME TIME THO  ;D

What's interesting for me is the amount of "gaps" when there is no hit within 9 eva side of the last number and no hit within 9 eva side of the second last number.
It's very rare and I think I didn't see a bigger gap then 3...
Hm....

HERE IS THE FIRST 1,000 SPINS I KINDLY RECIEVED OF SEE_JEREK (wheres he gone on holiday  8) ).


there was only one time when it went past the 4th bet and it is shown with a -£342, however i do know that this is as good as it gets for the loses the first 1,000 spins seem perfect dont they. :P


how can i show the graph on here instead of attachment

Quote from: trylobit on February 05, 2009, 11:50:22 AM
What's interesting for me is the amount of "gaps" when there is no hit within 9 eva side of the last number and no hit within 9 eva side of the second last number.
It's very rare and I think I didn't see a bigger gap then 3...
Hm....

as to this it is quit a rere case.

33         
36     w     w        
3         
14         
17         
8      w       £17.00
2            w    £15.00


mattjono

Quote from: MATTJONO on February 05, 2009, 11:57:19 AM
HERE IS THE FIRST 1,000 SPINS I KINDLY RECIEVED OF SEE_JEREK (wheres he gone on holiday  8) ).


there was only one time when it went past the 4th bet and it is shown with a -£342, however i do know that this is as good as it gets for the loses the first 1,000 spins seem perfect dont they. :P


how can i show the graph on here instead of attachment

I am not sure on how to show graph.

The first 1000 spins seemed great and I agree on you that is about as good as it gets. If you would had 5 or more misses on the 4th bet in 1000 spins, you could of course be broke, so if that happens too often it might not work. I have only gotten past the 4th bet 2 times while playing this system (with 6 steps). I am up on a 2421 unit profit now (I had a loss, but I took a daring, maybe a bit foolish 7th progression and fortunately, I won). If someone could send me 10.000 real live spins, I could try to figure how much in average per 1000 spins a bet is successful within the 4 spins and after. If that is a safer way to play it, I would most definately stop at 4th progression even if it slows down the profits a little bit.

There are lots of spins in the appropriate section of the forum. 

Instead of waiting for someone to get you the spins, just have a look there.

MM

Hello!

Just tryed this Perfection and waaaaaa i'm $10 ahead.!!!!!!!!

Joyland .10-$10 table.... took 10min.

Thanks....


I played mirror image of what you explained so.....

so if 3 H  apeeared i started to bet on miss ,and the other way around.


try higher table next time.


Cheers! :thumbsup:

Quote from: waaahome on February 06, 2009, 11:30:42 PM
Hello!

Just tryed this Perfection and waaaaaa i'm $10 ahead.!!!!!!!!

Joyland .10-$10 table.... took 10min.

Thanks....


I played mirror image of what you explained so.....

so if 3 H  apeeared i started to bet on miss ,and the other way around.


try higher table next time.


Cheers! :thumbsup:

I HAVE SEEN 14 HITS IN A ROW HAPPENS MORE FROM MY EXPERIENCE anyway.   

Quote from: MattyMattz on February 05, 2009, 01:18:18 PM
There are lots of spins in the appropriate section of the forum. 

Instead of waiting for someone to get you the spins, just have a look there.

MM

Forgive my ignorance. You guys think about everything and I appreciate that  :thumbsup:

I think this system is close to being a holy grail. It has been for me. If only a temporary one, but it's thanks to this system.

This is my story so far:

I started out with 0,10 euro bets with a bankroll of 123 euro. In a couple of days I had managed to double it and when getting past 400 euro, I increased the stakes to 0,20 euro and worked my way up to 600 euros. No system has ever gotten me this far at this speed.

"It wins more than it loses" is a statement for creator of the system. I partially agree, but if (when) you lose, it must be at the "right time". If you lose early, you are practically broke. I would think having the double - 2x - the recommended bankroll would make it fairly safe.

It has missed on me two times. Those two times, I got greedy and took on a 7th progression. I was incredibly lucky and the last time I did it, I almost lost my breath in astonishment and withdrew fast as hell to put brakes on my greed  ;D

My observations while playing this system intensely for a week was this:

• It never missed within the last-number progression. Not once.
• It lost twice on second to last number bets. I had luck of the gods and managed to save my self on a 7th progression, but it would have killed me if missed...

So I just had a conversation with MATTJONO on the chat and he was talking about having the 4th miss as a trigger on second to last number. I think this might be a good idea. Still, I believe this is a slightly more unsafe trigger, but it significantly helps building bankroll as well.

When I get my withdrawal, I am planning on doing some money managment. Splitting me 913 bucks in two accounts, so I have an insurance if it fails. If I get to the 1710 euro level, I think I will settle for only betting on the last number trigger.

Just wanted to share me experiences and thank MATTJONO for the system. Hoping more players get interested in this and can help optimizing this system. Will try to do a little testing of this on actuals, but it will take some time for I am so easilly bored  ;D

Kind regards
Eightfour

thank you eightfour, for your feedback and hope we can carry on tweeking this system e.g less progression and times when we will have a no bet situation. 

ow and let me know if you get £1000 profit and stick to the minumum bets 20p do not go any higher now for a while lets say until you get a loss the get back to even again for a couple of times (11hours play to get even) and have a bank roll of £5000 then i would start the £1 bets and be making £120 a hour average.
AND IM STILL SAYING MY SYSTEM CAN LOSE ITS JUST RARE AND BECAUSE WE PLAY TWO THINGS AT ONCE YOU WIN

MORE THAN YOU LOSE...

keep it up eightfour


thanks mattjono

I've done a test of 14 sessions:
I have attached the table and graph.
It crushed once, but it was on the second last number tracking and I think 4x miss trigger on the second last number should help a lot.
In 14 sessions it made a total of 1005 profit.

BTW I always apply victors 50% MM, so that why I have one main bankroll and 2 extra bankrolls.
Any questions?
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I just done a quick 52 spins waiting for either 2 hits or 2 miss and betting for the change 1x19 (+17) or 2x19 (+15) for a -57 loss,  stopped when it lost.

H
M
M  x1
M  x2
H  w+15
H  x1
M  w+32
H 
H  x1
M  w+49
M  x1
H  w+66
M
M  x1
H  w+83
M
M  x1
H  w+100
H  x1
M  w+117
M  x1
H  w+134
H  x1
M  w+151
M  x1
H  w+168
H  x1
H  x2
M  w+183
H
H  x1
H  x2
M  w+198
H
H  x1
H  x2
M  w+213
M  x1
M  x2
H  w+228
H  x1
M  w+245
H
M
H
M
M  x1
H  w+262
H  x1
H  x2
H  L+205

Could be good for the hit n runners  :)

Very nice trylobit. How long did your sessions last and where did you play?

I heard some mentioning of 1 min spins here? I currently play 2 minutes. Where can I play 1 minute spins on low limits?

Eightfour

Spins are from the joyland casino. I don't remember bow long session took, but multiply the number of spins by about 2min.

Br.
Trylobit.

I decided to give a try with this system. Unfortunatelly it crushed the second session. Till that moment I was up by 100u. There was 11 times no hit within the lasts numbers 9 eva side. I was playing at Eurogrand, it's Playtech feed. The name of the dealer was Lucy.

If anyone is interested I can paste the session here.

I was playing 0,01euro bets so I lost only 17,10euro.

I will consider playing with the second bankroll to recover...

But personally... Progression is dangerouse thing... This is a beginning of the good system, but still many tweaks to apply... I'm thinking about applying positive progression and disabling relative bets. If I come up with anything interesting I will post it here...

Best regards.
Trylobit.

This is unfortunate and impossible to predict. Therefore I think doubling the bankroll will give a lot of safety. Especially when you reach the unit size you are satisfied with.

I partly agree that this is a hit'n'run-system. I thinkthe  progression and bet selection works fine and like in winkel's GUT, while playing the system clinically you observe certain tendecies and these can be used as extra bets. Sometimes dealer has a tendency to hit every time and some times it's HHMHHMHHM. With a little gambler's intelligence, this can be used in a more advanced way and I think flat betting sidebets is the thing. Maybe even progressions if your intuition says that it is a "wise" idea.

I use Victor's money managment system myself (thank you Victor) and I think good MM is a key element to success in this system. I will try to aim at having as many "cushion banks" as possible.

so for now i will be testing. after every M,M or every H,H i will bet JUST ONCE next on the M,M to change to M,M,H so i would now be betting 19 units if win quit if lose quit.

if we lose the bet for two seperate times after m,m we add extra unit to the bet.

example


M,
M, BET -19
M,
M,
H,
H, BET -18
H,
M
H
H BET *2 -36
M, BET WON +72


GET THE IDEA PEOPLE FOLLOWING THIS TRHEAD.


ILL DO SOME TESTING ANYWAY.

It can be a good idea mattjono...
I'll do some testing tomorrow.

take care. keep up the good work.
trylobit.

Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on February 01, 2009, 05:28:47 PM
Hi all'
I guess I was pretty unlucky but this bombed on me fairly quickly.
Just be aware
The Spiders Kiss

I posted this a while back.
I would just liketo say that since this post(In fact the last 2 weeks or so) I ve won over 2300 units playing this and am yet to lose again.
As I say I must have been unlucky 1st time around.
Just wanted to put the record straight as Matt sure puts alot of work into his theories
Thanks
TSK

Hi everyone!

So just that I understand.  Are you guys playing with last number,  or last and second last....just want to be sure as I'm going to give it another try. I'm also curious of where people are playing. I'm playing on a playtec wheel (live) where they don't spin from the last number. Does that make a difference? Any details from those of you that are successful with this system would be very helpful. For me, it worked well for a little bit, but then lost once. As I continued in an attempt to recover, it went beyond 9 again.

Ronin

Hi Ronin
I am playing at joyland casino. My method of playing is to play 1 st and second numbers but I never play the second until the 1st has won.
Sometimes this of course means i miss the 2nd number but people seem to lose more often to the second so I give it as long as possible to run.
Just my way lol
TSK

Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on February 15, 2009, 06:53:02 PM


I posted this a while back.
I would just liketo say that since this post(In fact the last 2 weeks or so) I ve won over 2300 units playing this and am yet to lose again.
As I say I must have been unlucky 1st time around.
Just wanted to put the record straight as Matt sure puts alot of work into his theories
Thanks
The Spiders Kiss

it is like i said this system is not a 100% never loseses system its from my view a 100% profitable system.

Quote from: MATTJONO on February 10, 2009, 09:25:44 PM
so for now i will be testing. after every M,M or every H,H i will bet JUST ONCE next on the M,M to change to M,M,H so i would now be betting 19 units if win quit if lose quit.

if we lose the bet for two seperate times after m,m we add extra unit to the bet.

example


M,
M, BET -19
M,
M,
H,
H, BET -18
H,
M
H
H BET *2 -36
M, BET WON +72


GET THE IDEA PEOPLE FOLLOWING THIS TRHEAD.


ILL DO SOME TESTING ANYWAY.

Matt, I'm not sure if it would be better going up 1 on every loss then down on a win.. if you look below the end result is the same for a win, just a bigger loss if it losses, although more wins if it wins..

1 up every 2 losses.

M,
M, BET -19 
M,       (lose -19)  (win +17)
M,
H,
H, BET -18
H,        (lose-37) (win -1)
M
H
H BET *2 -36
M,       (lose -73)  (win -1)

1 up every loss.

M,
M, BET -19
M,       (lose -19) (win +17)
M,
H,
H, BET -36
H,        (lose-55) (win +17)
M
H
H BET *3 -54
M,       (lose -109)  (win -1)


Did a short one here..

[table=,]
START
H
H BET M *1 -18
H LOSE -18
H
M
M BET H *2 -38
H WIN +16
H BET M *1 -18
M WIN +34  
H
M
H
H BET M *1 -18
M WIN +52

[/table]


I like the look of that  :)

Waiting for the HHHHHH/MMMMMM streak to pass is probaly going to make this a winning system..thanks for brining it to the forum  :thumbsup:

Cheers,

Rquest

Quote from: kompressor on February 02, 2009, 10:28:09 PM
this has to be played online for sure....

the only problem is....wich casino would let you win thousands every month ??

how long or how much before they pull the plug ??

Cross that bridge when you come to it  ;)

Quote from: kompressor on February 02, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
....i've just read today on joyland that a girl won 4 000 000$ with slut...but in withdrawal section its clearly stated that the maximum you can withdraw is 9 000$ per month....what a scam....isnt it ??no way she's a millionaire and she will never be

That sucks but still $9000/month passive income isn't bad.

Matt! Please just once, spell it properly - it's only two extra letters!.....E.I.T.H.E.R not Eva lol
Only half serious with that though - congrats on your system.

Ok had a thought and can't see why the Even Chance High/Low is any different to the eva side?? much easier to bet on! and could do smaller bets if your bankroll is small and outside bets are high because you can bet on the 3 H/L double streets.

Anyway here is a High/Low session (1u up on a loss and 1 down on a win)and you will see the H & L's come out pretty much the same as the H & M's,

[table=,]
START
L
L BET H 1U
L LOSE    -1
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +2    
H
L
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +1
L   
L BET H 2U
L LOSE    -1
H
L
L BET H 3U
H WIN     +2
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +4
L BET H 1U
L LOSE    +3
L
H
H BET L 2U
H LOSE    +1
L
L BET H 3U
L LOSE    -2
H
H BET L 4U
L WIN     +2
L BET H 3U
L LOSE    -1
H
L
L BET H 4U
L LOSE    -5
H
L
L BET H 5U
L LOSE    -10
L
L
L
L
H
H BET L 6U
L WIN     -4
L BET H 5U
H WIN     +1
H BET L 4U
L WIN     +5
L BET H 3U
H WIN     +8
L
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +10
H
L
H
H BET L 1U
L WIN     +11
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +10
H
L
L BET H 2U
L LOSE    +8
H
H BET L 3U
L WIN     +11
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +13
H
L
H
L
0
H
L
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +12
L
L BET H 2U
L LOSE    +10
L
L
H
H BET L 3U
L WIN     +13
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +15
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +14
L
L BET H 2U
H WIN     +16[/table]

how can we do that system realy perfect i try to play this for real money and it is working but here are times that are go into negative bankroll

Guys, i love to believe in this system, but i am scared that on the long run the outcome will be the same as if one was betting on black/red... hi/low .....!!??

Or are we that far with testing that we can conclude that this way off playing even chances makes a difference to playing on normal even chances.

I tried so many things as well,lots off testing and systems held up till far over 10000 profit ,but still lost in the end,when i already was sure iwould be a millionaire within 1 year....

So can anybody test this with 250000 spins...........please.

Best regards Petquesha

hsomeone can provide 25000 live spins? Also excel sheet where we can put this data.

I am going to test tomorrow with 10K of spins...I will post the results after my test.

But onething is sure...you gotta win AVG of 106 wins just to break-even.


Lets see..!

Quote from: Allin on April 07, 2009, 12:21:30 PM
I am going to test tomorrow with 10K of spins...I will post the results after my test.

But onething is sure...you gotta win AVG of 106 wins just to break-even.


Lets see..!

would be great to see results for over 10,000 spins even if it is a loser i would love to see how the streaks look.

cheers,
mattjono

Mattjo mate,
Remember my thoughts about betting a wheel????............................Iboba 8)

Here is the Test results

    Brother Sorry, results not good due to progression...!!!

Progression Method & $ used
wait
wait
wait
1$
2$
5$
10$
25$
60$

Total Spins tested :8000
Initial Balance : 2000$
After completion of 8K spins : -11410$

Good Technic friend, I think the progression is killing...


After 500 spins Balance +2828
After 1000 spins Balance -1816
After 2000 spins Balance -7540
After 3000 spins Balance -7954
After 4000 spins Balance -11770
After 5000 spins Balance -12130
After 6000 spins Balance -13642
After 7000 spins Balance -13480
After 8000 spins Balance -11410



Let me paste the results without progression later

Good try brother..!!

Regards

Sorry brother Flat bet lost about -17000$

Let me know any Maths you wanna try.!

Regards

wow thanks allin.

PEFECT???---- ====  nope its seems where near a pefect system.

what i didnt know then and i do know now is that waiting for 3 misses and doing a progression on it to appear is probably the worste way to play.


and as iboba said

Quote from: iboba on April 07, 2009, 03:18:12 PM
Mattjo mate,
Remember my thoughts about betting a wheel????............................Iboba 8)

and iboba i take all of what you have said in, and bare in mind this when playing or designing any system at a live wheel.


cheers all,

mattjono





P.S  I WONDER WHEVER THE RESULTS ARE ALOT BETTER/WORSE THAN PLAYING ANY EVEN CHANCE AND THE 0.

 ;D ;D ;D

just had a read over this thread again....  ;D ;D ;D ;D.

maybe a good hit and run if lucky not too see a long run.


BUT we all have to start somewhere ay. :dance1:

cheers,
mattjono


P.S I still have £650 on goldenplace that they will not let me collect because of bonus rules. I deposited £70 and had a starting balance of £210 to start this system after thew weeks I was on £650 and not allowed to withdraw it. I even stakes over £4000 at the table so I could withdraw. but no luck I had to only play with my money on the slot machines. AGAIN NEVER TAKE THE BONUS.

thought id have a look at this wheel play.

BETTING for 2 occasions whenever we see M,M or H,H.........bet the opposite for the next 2 spins only.

remember a miss(M)= 17number bet, a hit(H)=19numbers bet.


9
5 H
36 H
20 M   W
18 H
26 H
8 M    W
25 H
25 H
22 M    W
8 M
1 H    W
12 M
34 M
11 H    W
3 M
30 M
23 H    W
11 H
4 M    W
16 M
13 H    W
34 H
33 M    W
30 M
5 H    W
16 H
10 H    L
32 M    W
35 H    
4 H
17 H    L
1 M    W
30 H    
5 H    
13 H    L
15 M    W
20 M
3 M    L
2 H    W
2 H    
10 M    W
14 H
15 M
9 M
32 M    L
24 M    L
8 H
5 H
22 H    L*2
33 H    L*2
6 M
1 M
30 H    W*3
11 H    
21 H    L
29 M    W
14 H
31 H
2 M    W
26 H
27 M
7 M
29 H    W
20 H
19 M    W
23 M
12 M    L
17 M    L
1 M
23 H
29 M
1 H
32 M
36 M
6 H    W*2
29 M
8 M
35 M    L
14 H    W
0 M
29 H
4 M
29 M
31 H    W
24 H
5 H    L
3 M    W
14 M
3 M    L
5 M    L
24 H
29 M
13 M
30 H    W*2
23 H
9 M    W
33 H
33 H
23 H    L
11 H    L


wins = 30   loses = 19

+11units average from the session above



MATTJONO

 
HIT (H) = the ball landed on the same half of the wheel it landed on for the previous spin

MISS (M) = the ball landed 10 or more pockets away from the last number spun left or right.

cheers
mattjono

the way you play is your choice....



i still would like to see the results of this way of playing

H
H
M
H
M   
M   
H....playing H next bet as it the leader from the last 7 spins.
M      loss  now playing M next as it is the leader from the last 7 spins.
M      win
M     win
M     win
H      loss
M     win
M     win
M     win
H     loss
M     win
H     loss
M    win
H    loss
H   loss    now playing for a H
H    win
H    win
M  loss
H    win

and so on and on


but would love to test over 1,000 live single 0 spins.

cheers,
mattjono

P.S or what i could of just said is PLAY THE LEADER FROM THE LAST 7 SPINS  ;D

wins = 30   loses = 19

+11units average from the session above

MATTJONO