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PERFECT ???

Started by MATTJONO, January 27, 2009, 10:45:30 PM

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MATTJONO

Quote from: upiwaly on February 03, 2009, 08:12:04 PM
Just for information.

In my 10.000 spins the longest "no hitting" session was 17x.
There were also few 11x and 12x misses...


yes this is exactly what i wanted somebody to show me some losses in the progression. in 10,000 spins how many times exactly did it go past the the progression if it only went past 3 times then that is still £1,000s of ££££ profit because it only takes you 800 spins max to make a loss back agan around 12 hours


thank you very much for the information

upiwaly

9x miss = 5
10x miss = 4
11x miss = 2
17x miss = 1

That is for 7291 spins ;)

Adriatik

upiwaly, can you post numbers for all miss ?

I said in my post that in 10 000 spins we can expect longest repetiton of 18 numbers or in this caste longest miss is 14 X ...
we have here:

9x miss = 5
10x miss = 4
11x miss = 2
17x miss = 1

I think it matches enought, but I would like to see whole statistic so we can see does it acts like any 19 numbers or different. Just one more question I guess this testing was not with real numbers? It make not sense to test this system on RNG numbers.

MATTJONO

is this using the last number and the second to last number because even with them losses you would still be in +profit

eightfour

I think this system is great. It has won more than it has lost for my part.
Had one recent loss and it got me thinking a little.

What do you think would be the consequenses if we stopped the progression at 4x?

It sure would mean more losses, but it would take shorter time to recover. I don't know how test properly or to make valid statistics, but if we have a bankroll of 171 or 1710 and stop loss at 4x what would happen? Will the losses outnumber the wins? What if we stop at 2x or 3x?

Hoping someone will take the challenge and find it out  :thumbsup:

MATTJONO

Quote from: eightfour on February 05, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
I think this system is great. It has won more than it has lost for my part.
Had one recent loss and it got me thinking a little.

What do you think would be the consequenses if we stopped the progression at 4x?

It sure would mean more losses, but it would take shorter time to recover. I don't know how test properly or to make valid statistics, but if we have a bankroll of 171 or 1710 and stop loss at 4x what would happen? Will the losses outnumber the wins? What if we stop at 2x or 3x?

Hoping someone will take the challenge and find it out  :thumbsup:


I WILL DO JUST THAT GIVE ME SOME TIME THO  ;D

trylobit

What's interesting for me is the amount of "gaps" when there is no hit within 9 eva side of the last number and no hit within 9 eva side of the second last number.
It's very rare and I think I didn't see a bigger gap then 3...
Hm....



MATTJONO

HERE IS THE FIRST 1,000 SPINS I KINDLY RECIEVED OF SEE_JEREK (wheres he gone on holiday  8) ).


there was only one time when it went past the 4th bet and it is shown with a -£342, however i do know that this is as good as it gets for the loses the first 1,000 spins seem perfect dont they. :P


how can i show the graph on here instead of attachment

MATTJONO

Quote from: trylobit on February 05, 2009, 11:50:22 AM
What's interesting for me is the amount of "gaps" when there is no hit within 9 eva side of the last number and no hit within 9 eva side of the second last number.
It's very rare and I think I didn't see a bigger gap then 3...
Hm....






as to this it is quit a rere case.

33         
36     w     w        
3         
14         
17         
8      w       £17.00
2            w    £15.00


mattjono


eightfour

Quote from: MATTJONO on February 05, 2009, 11:57:19 AM
HERE IS THE FIRST 1,000 SPINS I KINDLY RECIEVED OF SEE_JEREK (wheres he gone on holiday  8) ).


there was only one time when it went past the 4th bet and it is shown with a -£342, however i do know that this is as good as it gets for the loses the first 1,000 spins seem perfect dont they. :P


how can i show the graph on here instead of attachment

I am not sure on how to show graph.

The first 1000 spins seemed great and I agree on you that is about as good as it gets. If you would had 5 or more misses on the 4th bet in 1000 spins, you could of course be broke, so if that happens too often it might not work. I have only gotten past the 4th bet 2 times while playing this system (with 6 steps). I am up on a 2421 unit profit now (I had a loss, but I took a daring, maybe a bit foolish 7th progression and fortunately, I won). If someone could send me 10.000 real live spins, I could try to figure how much in average per 1000 spins a bet is successful within the 4 spins and after. If that is a safer way to play it, I would most definately stop at 4th progression even if it slows down the profits a little bit.

MattyMattz

There are lots of spins in the appropriate section of the forum. 

Instead of waiting for someone to get you the spins, just have a look there.

MM


waaahome

Hello!

Just tryed this Perfection and waaaaaa i'm $10 ahead.!!!!!!!!

Joyland .10-$10 table.... took 10min.

Thanks....


I played mirror image of what you explained so.....

so if 3 H  apeeared i started to bet on miss ,and the other way around.


try higher table next time.


Cheers! :thumbsup:

MATTJONO

Quote from: waaahome on February 06, 2009, 11:30:42 PM
Hello!

Just tryed this Perfection and waaaaaa i'm $10 ahead.!!!!!!!!

Joyland .10-$10 table.... took 10min.

Thanks....


I played mirror image of what you explained so.....

so if 3 H  apeeared i started to bet on miss ,and the other way around.


try higher table next time.


Cheers! :thumbsup:


I HAVE SEEN 14 HITS IN A ROW HAPPENS MORE FROM MY EXPERIENCE anyway.   

eightfour

Quote from: MattyMattz on February 05, 2009, 01:18:18 PM
There are lots of spins in the appropriate section of the forum. 

Instead of waiting for someone to get you the spins, just have a look there.

MM



Forgive my ignorance. You guys think about everything and I appreciate that  :thumbsup:

I think this system is close to being a holy grail. It has been for me. If only a temporary one, but it's thanks to this system.

This is my story so far:

I started out with 0,10 euro bets with a bankroll of 123 euro. In a couple of days I had managed to double it and when getting past 400 euro, I increased the stakes to 0,20 euro and worked my way up to 600 euros. No system has ever gotten me this far at this speed.

"It wins more than it loses" is a statement for creator of the system. I partially agree, but if (when) you lose, it must be at the "right time". If you lose early, you are practically broke. I would think having the double - 2x - the recommended bankroll would make it fairly safe.

It has missed on me two times. Those two times, I got greedy and took on a 7th progression. I was incredibly lucky and the last time I did it, I almost lost my breath in astonishment and withdrew fast as hell to put brakes on my greed  ;D

My observations while playing this system intensely for a week was this:


  • It never missed within the last-number progression. Not once.
  • It lost twice on second to last number bets. I had luck of the gods and managed to save my self on a 7th progression, but it would have killed me if missed...

So I just had a conversation with MATTJONO on the chat and he was talking about having the 4th miss as a trigger on second to last number. I think this might be a good idea. Still, I believe this is a slightly more unsafe trigger, but it significantly helps building bankroll as well.

When I get my withdrawal, I am planning on doing some money managment. Splitting me 913 bucks in two accounts, so I have an insurance if it fails. If I get to the 1710 euro level, I think I will settle for only betting on the last number trigger.

Just wanted to share me experiences and thank MATTJONO for the system. Hoping more players get interested in this and can help optimizing this system. Will try to do a little testing of this on actuals, but it will take some time for I am so easilly bored  ;D

Kind regards
Eightfour

MATTJONO

thank you eightfour, for your feedback and hope we can carry on tweeking this system e.g less progression and times when we will have a no bet situation. 

ow and let me know if you get £1000 profit and stick to the minumum bets 20p do not go any higher now for a while lets say until you get a loss the get back to even again for a couple of times (11hours play to get even) and have a bank roll of £5000 then i would start the £1 bets and be making £120 a hour average.
AND IM STILL SAYING MY SYSTEM CAN LOSE ITS JUST RARE AND BECAUSE WE PLAY TWO THINGS AT ONCE YOU WIN

MORE THAN YOU LOSE...

keep it up eightfour


thanks mattjono

MATTJONO

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