give up

[Gotrek]

Surely you people that produce nothing but negative posts, a 100 quoted above should find themselves some other activity.

What is the point of belonging to a forum where the main discussion is about roulette systems, if you don't participate in a
positive way.  Few of you ever bother to test any systems or make any contribution with some ideas.
 
Even when positive results are shown you dismiss them, without even bothering to examine them and make trite comments
instead.
 
As has been pointed out before, over 3000 people have joined this forum and how many have actually posted anything?
 
The majority who joined must have an interest in roulette and could well have made a positive contribution here, but won't
for fear of adverse comments, by a handful of negative posters, who have nothing better to do than post repetitive negative
comments. 
 
What do you or anyone else get out of 100 repetitive negative posts, absolutely nothing.
 
Mr Chips

Someone posted something about LS books on getting the advantage.  Now, that is GOOD posting. 

I also read that someone slammed a math system.  Although in a negative way, that is also GOOD posting. 
Giving positive feedback on mathbased systems can never be GOOD posting.  It is contraproductive and delusional.

If you're ready to accept Advantage Play is just a question of
- how stubborn you are.
- how open minded you are.
- how proud you are.
- how much you are willing to learn. 


Ok, I'm done.  Flame on. 


Ps.  Agree that systems can be fun if playing when drunk.  That's about it.  It adds to the headache in the morning after.

[Shorty]

Drunk systems playing is fun.

[See_Jerek]

Simon that is the truth no roulette system will make you buy a new car or house.
Simon it is not hard to gain an real edge with andvantage play.
You can learn how to gain 5 to 10% if you use some basic advance play but you still need a large BR because even if you have an edge there will be fluctation.
Come to the chat when I am around I will help you out and give you the direction to go with some things or you can send me a PM.

Cheers

Hello Patrick,

I have no doubts that advantage play like VB is one of the workable ways but no you need a wheel,no everyone can afford that,you simply cannot learn VB without a wheel.Roulette with a 2.7% house edge is simply too hard to beat unless you can find a ridiculously biased wheels,they exists but they are rare.I reckon advantage play in baccarat and blackjack is easier to pick up and master simply because there are only a certain number of cards in a shoe with a proper professional method,it is far easier to gain an advantage,no forgetting house edge for these 2 babies is peanuts compare to roulette.I am sure thre are more people making a living out of baccarat/blackjack compare to roulette

[See_Jerek]

Well I have a roulette method that is sure to make money 100% its call bonus abuse,I didn't do it as it too much of a trouble.Opening accounts with other people's ID,it works.You can make a hundred Euros in a day but that is not my idea of playing roulette.LOL

Well there is a holy grail coming to me,to that kind soul thank you very much.the faster the better,I am broke ha ha ha

[Gotrek]

Looks like you've gone with the title. . . 




Why should it be more difficult? Only 37/38 numbers, but 52 cards. . .   

[winkel]

I have corresponded with a Professor of Mathematics at a University near me who was kind enough to answer some probability questions I had which related to a system I was working on.  Below is part of his email to me....

"Before I get to the problem discussed below, let me note again: since the expected value is negative *each time* one puts a dollar on the table, it does not matter when, where, or according to what method the bets are placed, it does not matter what results have just occurred, and so on – the total expected value is the sum of the individual expected values and will therefore be negative. Period.  This is a long-ago proven theorem of applied mathematics."

If this is true, if you agree with this, then there can be no system, can there...

This Prof. is wrong.

The simple Martingale worked if you were allowed to place unlimited bets. You would win every single attack.

The problem is that all casinos have limited the bet-amount. they say to save the player from losses. but it is only limited to save the casino from losses.

br
winkel

[simon]

hmmm, that could be true but at the casino I play at it is not the house limits that would stop me or most people from progressing, as I would be way over my head and no where near the house limits to have the nerve or money to place another bet to make such a tiny profit.

[winkel]

hmmm, that could be true but at the casino I play at it is not the house limits that would stop me or most people from progressing, as I would be way over my head and no where near the house limits to have the nerve or money to place another bet to make such a tiny profit.

simple mathematical fact: Don´t bet if you don´t have enough money

It is a fact of sense not of math that you can´t win millions starting with some hundreds

[simon]

hmm, but what is the point spending millions to win hundreds?

[winkel]

hmm, but what is the point spending millions to win hundreds?

to win

[pins]

if you can not win with hundreds you will not win with millions. if i play at the one dollar roulette and lose  how would i win with millions. if you have a good system your bankroll does not matter.

[pins]

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