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Kiddo's System #1

Started by kiddo, June 08, 2008, 11:35:03 PM

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hermes

What strategy of zuan's do you use on baccarat, kiddo? I read his strategy but don't understand it. That one observes 2 shoes and start to bet on the 3rd shoe, the pattern of the pattern and no tie bets. I am completely lost with him. Can you explain it to me in simple language (not Chinese, please) or p.m. me.
Thanks Hermes

kiddo

check out my recent post on the zuan thread. My complex strategy is very close to what he plays and is a little more accurate. once again I can't disclose that strategy. But I can help you guys understand why it works and how using my friends and I came about it. The mathematics between my complex system and zuan's system is the same we employ the same strategies. But mine calculates moving averages. His uses fixed percentages.

VICLIMKS

cmon kiddo.....pls. help us???by the way its only the casinos $$$......thankz

mystidark

Hey Kiddo,

Could you please maybe post some examples of how to play your System 2 as that would explain it a lot more.

Thx,

MD  8)

kiddo

Okay guys sorry bout the wait. I was in macau for a couple of weeks very rarely had a chance to come on. here is an example of a shoe that was recently played with system #2

P
B
B ---> OKAY two outcomes we are playing hand before the last with a 1,2,3,5,8,13 etc progression. We will bet on player as that was the outcome before the last hand [LOSE]
B ---> bet bank as outcome before the last hand was bank [win +1 unit]
P ---> bet bank [Lose 1 unit on bank]
P ---> bet bank [lose 2 unit on bank -3 total]
P ---> bet player [win 3 units total = 0]
P ---> bet player [ win 2 units total = 2, progression resets after Win Win or Win Loss Win pattern]
P ---> bet player [win 1U total = 3U]
P ---> bet player [win 1 U total = 4U]
B ---> bet player [loss 1U total = 3U]
P ---> bet player [win 2U total = 5U]
B ---> bet banker [win 1U total = 6U]
P ---> bet player [win 1U total = 7U]
B ---> bet banker [win 1U total = 8U]
P ---> bet player [win 1U total = 9U]
P ---> bet banker [loss 1U total = 8U]
B ---> bet player [loss 2U total = 6U]
P ---> bet player [win 3 U total = 9U]
B ---> bet banker [win 2U total = 11U]
B ---> bet player [loss 1U total = 10U]
B ---> bet banker [win 2U total = 12U]
B ---> bet banker [win 1U total = 13U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 1U total = 12U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 2U total = 10U]
P ---> bet player [win 3U total = 13U]
P ---> bet player [win 2U total = 15U]
B ---> bet player [lose 1U total = 14U]
B ---> bet player [lose 2U total = 12U]
B ---> bet banker [win 3U total = 15U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 2U total = 13U]
B ---> bet banker [win 3U total = 16U]
B ---> bet player [lose 1U total = 15U]
B ---> bet banker [win 2U total = 17U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 1U total = 16U]
B ---> bet banker [win 2U total = 18U]
P ---> bet player [win 1U total = 19U]
B ---> bet banker [win 1U total = 20U]
B ---> bet player [lose 1U total = 19U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 2U total = 17U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 3U total = 14U]
B ---> bet banker (as per system rules if BBPP or PPBB pattern comes out after a full set of 4 you bet opposite for ONE hand) [win 5U total = 19U]
P ---> bet player [win 3U total = 21U]
B ---> bet banker [win 1U total = 22U]
P ---> bet player [win 1U total = 23U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 1U total = 22U]
P ---> bet player [win 2U total = 24U]
B ---> bet player [lose 1U total = 23U]
P ---> bet player [win 2U total 25U]
B ---> bet banker [win 1U total 26U]
P ---> bet player [win 1U total 27U]
B ---> bet banker [win 1U total 28U]
B ---> bet player [lose 1U total 26U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 2U total 24U]
P ---> bet banker [lose 3U total 21U]
P ---> bet banker (as per system rules BBPP pattern came out bet opposite)[lose 5U total 17U]
P ---> bet player [win 8U total 25U]


Overall performance (I was playing 1000 units)
32 Wins / 57 Hands = 56.1% Win Rate
+25000 overall
Biggest Drawdown -3000
Biggest Profit +28000
Biggest Bet 8000

Analysis: Overall a very good shoe. It paid well expect to dip into the 21 Unit bets though as you play this system more and more you will see bets get big fast. I am still thinking of ways we can reduce the risk without reducing the profit. because with this system every 2 wins is +1 Unit extra in your pocket and every straight win without a loss is also +1 unit in your pocket. Currently averages roughly 21.5 Units per shoe with a maximum risk of 233 units on the table. so the numbers do get big when you get hit by consistent doubles.I've only seen the 233 about 3/100 shoes. For the experienced baccarat players you will be able to tell when a 2,2,2,2,2 pattern is gonna come up. Its a feeling that comes with alot of baccarat experience. So you will know when to sit out or leave the table so that you will never reach that point.

VICLIMKS

HI KIDDO.......BY THE WAY HOWS YOUR TRIP............I JUST CAME BACK FROM MACAU.......WHEN TO MGM AND WYNN N GOT MY HANDS CUT BY THEM >:(

kiddo

you win on 3 and 4... you dont switch full to OB4TL you just switch for one bet and that offsets. and the progression is not limited at 7 steps. Thats why I said on the previous page you have to have a big bankroll.

Joker

i see John.. you have good point also...

so how do you play?

any advice?

kiddo

You have your opinion and I have mine. This is a system that built from 500 bankroll and I managed to get it to well over 9000 in a matter of 27 shoes. never depleting my initial 500. I agree there are better ways to bet. This is just one of the ways to play the game. Risking the big amount of units brings you back to a manageable level, because eventually you will win 2 in a row. no matter what the odds are. 2 in a rows only make up for 25% of the shoes in the long term game. Don't feed me that BS about gambler's fallacy where its possible that a shoe will go 2,2,2,2 for an entire shoe because it will NEVER happen.

kiddo

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