Long Run...how long is the long run.

[Dr.Hubert]

Quantum entanglement has been observed up to the size of an atom, but I don't think I'd make the leap to roulette just yet.

[Lanky]

Why not ask him for his pin code while you are at it Lanky? 

Davey.

Some people could be forgiven for assuming that I knew the answer to the Question Before I asked it.

Lanky.

[Dr.Hubert]

Lanky,

I'm into ballistics. 

[VLSroulette]

@Victor,

Why is the name of the thread automatically quoted under each image or formula posted?

Frigging forum bug that comes over and over.

More likely it gets fixed on next version/revision.

This branch has loads of bugs and I can't do every one of them.

We'll live with it for some months until next STABLE version is released.

[Raider]

Lanky, you have got to know he will never answer that, or bother to explain why he is right, and others are wrong.   I have always thought of the long run as infinity.   I was wrong, the context of the question wasn't about the long run, but how many bet decisions to validate or invalidate a betting method, and the source of those decisions that are tested do not come from the wheel we are currently betting on, but hopfull do come from a real wheel and not an RNG(unless your betting on a RNG wheel).   I have alwasy thought that nothing works all the time, and everything works some of the time, the trick is knowing when to do what, making it all realtive to the NOW. 


Raider

Guess I should have read the next page before I posted, leason learned

[Lanky]

Lanky,

I'm into ballistics. 

Yes I Know You are.

Thanks for the polite reply.

Lanky.

[Lanky]

Raider

Guess I should have read the next page before I posted, leason learned

Hi Raider.

Most have done that before My Friend.........Its cool Mate.....I will probably do it next...Lmao

Lanky.

[Marven]

Perhaps I should describe two types of "long run" for clarification purposes. A local long run, and the global one.

A local long run is an amount of trials upon which statistical significance can be established with regards to one's method.

The global long run is infinity.

Significant success in the local long run should be able to guarantee success in the global one.

[seykid29]

I guess eventually long run short run,the aim is to profit out.At times i feel on forum there is more matheticians than players...

[Dr.Hubert]

Most of us also have a great deal of casino experience as well.  This is why we also understand casino math.

[Raider]

If they had taught the math of gambling in school, or had related math to it in any way shape or form, made the connection between math and money, I would have loved it.  Since I started studying gambling.  esp craps, and now roulette I have learned about physics, probability, random, quantum, chaos theory, the uncertainty  principle, and see how it all fits into one.  This was a good question, a scum bag says that what ever system , method your using will lose in the long run and it means 10k spins to him, and i play 2 hours a week, 80 spins that's 2. 4 years, if he means 100k, hey that's 24 years and Will be dead, so as long as it wins before I die, what would i care.   I have just started studying this game, but it seems that there are two schools of advantage play, one based in physics, VB, tracking what the ball does, and trying make the best guess as to where it will land , and  the the method, or system, make the same bet every time and use some sort of progression/ regression, its based on probability.  At the end of the day, physics trumps probability since it is based on energy and probability is based on a "neutral state.  The dealer is the seed of his RNG, making it a non neutral state and his sequence of numbers is predictable based on it.  All I have to do is crack the code of the seed.  I don;t know if any of that makes any sense, and I just wrote it, LOL

[Marven]

This was a good question, a scum bag says that what ever system , method your using will lose in the long run and it means 10k spins to him

Take it easy there, this is not GG. You have a good point (later in your post), no need to stain it with needless name-calling.

I did not say that "whatever you're using you're doomed to failure", only shared what "long run" means to me. Should my opinion upset you, please step away from the keyboard for a moment, take a deep breath and realize that none of this matters.

Thank you, and good day.

[Davey-Jones]

I thought the scum bag was the one who says he has a winning system (usually so he can sell you it). It seems not, the scum bag is the one that points out the truth. 

All in favour of Scum Bags say "Ay"

AY!!!! 

[hoper35]

There are many truths.   

[Raider]

I apologize, that word was not directed at anyone in particular, more at a reoccurring attitude that I have encountered of overly helpful people who use their knowledge to give un asked for advice to humiliate others in public.  I will use better word choice in the future.  I do not know what GG  is though.

  I will go wash my mouth out with soap now, thankful that I did not chose one of the first five words that came to mind, and that now, thanks to you Marven I have a context to put the 'Long run" in that makes sense.

I can't figure out why you thought I was directing that at you though, unless its the way I am posting, will check into that

[Raider]

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