VLS’ 50% Money Management

[MattyMattz]

But the dang system is soooooo difficult to grasp..

How does it go??  Wait for a double street to hit twice in a row and then bet it won't do it again?  If it does, triple your bet for two more bets?

Sorry, I'm drunk on dog-tired!!

Sam

Sam's - it's not the system I'm trying to encourage (it doesn't always win) but the sound Money Managment plan that can really turn the tides.

MM

[cps10]

I agree here. As long as you split those bankrolls up, then you find yourself in a good position. The problem I might have would be how far down into your current bankroll do you set as the stop-loss? Is it half? An entire bankroll?

For instance, you could have built up the first bankroll so high, that winning 10% of the bank seems easy, but since your units are higher in value, the expectation of losing the entire bankroll is the same as it was when it was at its bare minimum.

Perhaps the thought would be to allow the bankroll to grow on the 10% scale as usual, but perhaps not increasing the unit value as quickly as the bankroll is growing would be a good idea, to give your bankroll more sustainability.

For instance, if you have a $100 bankroll at the outset, and you are trying to win $10. So you are playing $1 units, and get 10 wins. You are finished.

But say you are up to $200 in your first bankroll. You are trying to win $20. Do you want to gamble that the bad loss is not coming along the way, and move your unit value to $2? Or would you prefer to maybe get up to $300 before moving up to a $2 unit value? In the $100 sceanario, you are risking 1% of your bank per unit, hoping that 100% isn't used. But with each impending win, the amount you risk each spin GOES DOWN. So, if you are at $105 after Session 1, and still using $1 units, you are only risking 0.9% of your bank per unit. See what I mean here? You have more units available to you in case you have a bad spell.

Just food for thought.

[xman1970]

Hey cps10


Glad your back here.....

Just one thing to say....


[smiley=afro.gif] = WARB 

[cps10]

Hey cps10


Glad your back here.....

Just one thing to say....


[smiley=afro.gif] = WARB 

I hear ya dude...I do need to get my wig trimmed now that ya mention it!

[hamsup_sotong]

Hi guys, Questions for Victor here

I'm interested in incorporating VLS' 50% Money Management into Lohnro's Double Street System. Assuming 5 per unit bets,a BR OF 350 UNITS per session (as explained by cps) as well as a profit of 10% of BR per session( abt 35 Units). But i'm not sure how to go about doing it.

For example

1.          how many intra sessions do i go for b4 increasing the unit value per stake?
2.          How much do i increase?
3.          Stop loss per session?

Would it be possible?

Thanks
"Hammy" Jr

[cps10]

I will see if I can help you out hamsup with a chart. As soon as I come up with it, then I will let you know.

[hamsup_sotong]

Cheers Cps



Hamsup

[hamsup_sotong]

hi Victor

Questions for you regarding this mm system. I started with 3 Brs of 250 each, now my BR 1 is 1386 and i've almost completed by 8th minimum bank. This is because i've been riding a pretty good wave at the moment. However this will not last for sure ( though of course I hope not ).

When would be the point whereby u recommend to start over again ? or not increase your units any further? In addition to this, on a loss, would u start over? or else where would u continue from ?

Thanks in advance
Hams

[VLSroulette]

Hi mate, answer is simple, you roll back to base unit when you lose your first bank.

By the way, as your units get larger, you may want to keep a few of them prior to losing the whole bank. say keep 10% of your first inflated bank to distribute. When you are facing such a clear negative tram in your session, you will hardly make 90% with the remaining 10%, so it is avisable to keep at least some those large units for the bank.

Victor

[VLSroulette]

1.          how many intra sessions do I go for b4 increasing the unit value per stake?

From 2nd session, you are ready to go.

2.          How much do I increase?

That's up to your own return. say you return per session is 20% of bank, then you have:

10% for you.
5% for your 1st bank
5% for the stack of banks.

So at this level of return per session, you increase by 5% your unit value.

3.          Stop loss per session?

Again, it depends on your system. Remember this is an inter-session Money Management; stop loss is attached to your system of choice.

What I can tell you is you do not place any stop on the unit value increase in your first bank. Let is go as high as it can. This is the beauty of this MM, rising the unit on casino money

Victor

[hamsup_sotong]

Hi Victor,

Thanks a lot mate. Great advice.

CHeers
Hams

[moch]

Hi mattymattz and all.

Just recently I tried you MM tweak in a real casino. Well done  Brilliant !

About tripling the bet, it gets scary sometimes, but usually works.

@ Master Victor 

I have been testing my bet selection for the 2 doz & 2 col recovery stage and works somewhat fine.
The topic is: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/back-to-vls-dozen-and-column-jumps/
I wouldn't advise to play this as production stage. It will fail. However due to it's lower bankroll requirements compared to 2 doz or 2 cols, perhaps it could be used as a recovery alternative. Most of the time I see 1 dozen and 1 column either sleeping or behind the other 2.

Victor, do you think a Lw module to test it further, possible, mate ?

And again congratulations Victor for 50% MM, and Matt for your idea. You guys Rock 

Friendly
Moch

[VLSroulette]

And again congratulations Victor for 50% MM, and Matt for your idea. You guys Rock

Mate, there are some "tricks" or "tweaks" to this one.

Always keep 10% of first bankroll, more than likely you won't make 90% with 10%, so it makes sense to pocket them; keeping inflated units do count.

Advanced use of Manrique's Money Management techniques which for illustrating purposes need first translating them to english, then more space to elaborate on their usage with this 50% scheme (i.e. selective erotion on first bank, implementing Manrique's "Achiles & the Turtle" technique and communicant glasses at some set points, vegetative growth is already implemented in a way, etc.).

Also, depending on the system and unit (i.e. if can divide unit at least / 10), it is possible to implementing it with every single bet, for a higher compound interest formula...

There's more to it! Mostly tweaks from trial & error, as it sucks biggest time to lose an inflated first bankroll. Some measures are hinted but frankly speaking, they deserve their own "Advanced 50% Money Management implementation" thread.

Kind regards,
Victor

[moch]

Hi Victor et all

Always keep 10% of first bankroll, more than likely you won't make 90% with 10%, so it makes sense to pocket them; keeping inflated units do count.

Another good advice. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Also, depending on the system and unit (i.e. if can divide unit at least / 10), it is possible to implementing it with every single bet, for a higher compound interest formula...

Can you explain this, please ? I don't get it mate. 

Best regards
Moch

[mistarlupo]

This stuff does sound very promising!
I definitely will give "Advanced 50% Money Management" a try.

Looking forward to it.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
And thank you, Victor, for all your efforts! Really good work.

Regards,
m

[mistarlupo]

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