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VLS’ 50% Money Management

Started by VLSroulette, July 13, 2008, 02:13:56 PM

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VLSroulette

Hello there, Victor here.

Lucky Strike made this question: "When is your money your money?" I did have at a point to answer that myself many moons ago; how much to keep to my personal (and familiar) expenses, how much to re-invest? Answer = the magic number is 50%.

Let me explain my take on the 50% Money Management from scratch with 3 starting banks as lifetime-bankroll:

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This is the main scheme: To explode as much as possible 1st bank's unit value and to create as many minimum-value banks to act as "cushion" between you and the casino as you can make. The more banks the better because in gambling having available bankrolls to play is life itself.

...If you are playing you'd want to own the profits as soon as you finish your session, but also your stack of banks needs to grow. Under the 50% framework, after a winning session you split the 100% won amount like this:

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50% to you, the person playing and 50% to re-invest.

The re-invested 50% amount is again split in half (25% + 25%) and distributed equally to increase the unit value at the 1st bank you want to Explode in the $$$ value and to help in the creation of new banks to serve as more cushion between you and the casino.

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As you have a successful inter-session winning streak (several sessions won in a row) you grow the unit value at the first bank, and this triggers more actual money for you to have your 50% cut with each session, increases more rapidly the number of minimum-value unit banks as "cushion" and also enters in a positive loop by re-increasing 1st bank's $$$ value per unit.

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If you hit a bad inter-session streak (several concatenated sessions lost) after losing the first bank, a minimum-unit value bank is taken from reserve and you give back / lose the least $$$ possible as the value is returned the minimum again.

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Please remember the more fragmented the unit the better. If you play for instance the dozens with 1 unit = 10 chips, you can enjoy rising in decimals like this: 10.1 = 11 chips placed on the dozen. 10.3 = 13 chips placed, etc. when using "solid" units ( 1 unit = 1 chip ) this is not available.

And of course, feel free to use this Money Management scheme with the system that suits you better.

Hope it helps.

Best regards from your friend,
Victor

lucky_strike


MattyMattz

I just wanted to put in a quick note and say that this MM plan is excellent.  I have used it (or a version of it) for the past 3 months (or so) with great success.  Even using simple systems with this MM Plan can prove profitable.

Thanks Vic!

Matt

MattyMattz

Hi again folks,
I've decided to show you that it's quite possible to turn a small BR into a large one in just a few months with this amazing MM Plan.
I have been playing 5 lines for the last couple months (4 or so) and have turned a 200$ BR into 2500+ BR since then.  And never risking more than half of it during one single session (thanks to this MM Plan).

Posted below is how I started it all.  In this post I will show my first 15 sessions which gets my another full BR.

5 Lines Banking Plan   
Original Bank: 200$
   
This intial 200$ is split into 2 smaller BR (100$ each)   
100$ (Main BR)   100$ (2nd BR)
   
Session 1   
100$ x 10% = 10$ (goal this session) - I shoot for 10% of my Main BR each session.
So I'm aiming to win 10$ this session.  I only want to bet 3 times max, so I take 10$ and divide by 3.
10$/3 (# of games we want to play max) = 3.5 (our betting units)   
Bet 3.5/line (17.5$ waged) - I am betting 5 lines, waiting for a line to repeat first then betting all other lines.
Session Results:    nolinks - I won all 3 bets
Profits:   10.50$
New BR (Main):   105$ - here I split the profit.  Half goes to my Main BR, the other half goes into a new BR (3rd BR)
2nd BR:   100$ (no change)
New 3rd BR:   5.50$ - when I split the profits and it doesn't split exactly, I always put the extra in the "new" BR.
Session End   
   
Session 2   
105$ x 10% = 10$ (goal - always round down)   
Units: 3.5   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   10.50$
Main BR:   110$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    11$
Session End   
   
Session 3   
110$ x 10% = 11$   
Units: 4   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   12$
Main BR:   116$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    17$
Session End   
   
Session 3   
116$ x 10% = 11$   
Units: 4   
Session Results:   wwL(after a loss, I triple the units and aim for 2 more wins, then end the session)ww
Profits:   12$ (+4,+4,-20,+12,+12)
Main BR:   122$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    23$
Session End   
   
Session 4   
122$ x 10% = 12$   
Units: 4   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   12$
Main BR:   128$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    29$
Session End   
   
Session 5   
128$ x 10% = 12$   
Units: 4   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   12$
Main BR:   134$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    35$
Session End   
   
Session 6   
134$ x 10% = 13$   
Units: 4.5   
Session Results:   wLww
Profits:   9$
Main BR:   138$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    40$
Session End   
   
Session 7   
138$ x 10% = 13$   
Units: 4.5   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   13.50$
Main BR:   144$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    47.50$
Session End   
   
Session 8   
144$ x 10% = 14$   
Units: 5   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   15$
Main BR:   151$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    55.50$
Session End   
   
Session 9   
151$ x 10% = 15$   
Units: 5   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   15$
Main BR:   158$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    63.50$
Session End   
   
Session 10   
158$ x 10% = 15$   
Units: 5   
Session Results:   Lww
Profits:   5$
Main BR:   160$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    66.50$
Session End   
   
Session 11   
160$ x 10% = 16$   
Units: 5.5   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   16.50$
Main BR:   168$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    75$
Session End   
   
Session 12   
168$ x 10% = 16$   
Units: 5.5   
Session Results:   nolinks
Profits:   16.50$
Main BR:   176$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    83.50$
Session End   
   
Session 13   
176$ x 10% = 17$   
Units: 5.5   
Session Results:   Lww
Profits:   5.50$
Main BR:   178$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    87$
Session End   
   
Session 14   
178$ x 10% = 17$   
Units: 5.5   
Session Results:   wwLww
Profits:   16.50$
Main BR:   186$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    95.50$
Session End   
   
Session 15   
186$ x 10% = 18$   
Units: 6   
Session Results:   wLww
Profits:   12$
Main BR:   192$
2nd BR:   100$
3rd BR:    100$
4th BR:   1.50$
Session End   


Please feel free to ask questions.  I have all my results written (by hand) and I will spend the next weekend typing them up to post here.  It will show how easy it was to build a bigger BR and how it gets bigger and bigger because I'm betting 10% of my Main BR, which is always growing.

Cheers and Good luck,
Matt

djroulette

That looks bloody phenomonal to me Matty. Real good stuff there. very positive to see somebody who is winning. Not a fortune but winning on a regular basis. very impressive my friend. (my spelling is shocking so sorry if iv made mistakes people. lol)

Dj

TwoCatSam

MM

Quite impressive.  Few have the patience to accomplish such a feat.  Questions:

1.  In your opinion, when you end a session how long must you wait to begin another session? 
2.  Did you do this for real, or was it a paper test?
3.  Was it a real wheel?  Which one?

Thanks for the time spent doing this.  Very impressive.

I wish I could send you a spray can of this new "Naysayer Repellent" I found.  It fends them off like OFF does mosquitoes, but it would freeze up there.  They will probably buzz in, but just shoo them away and keep on keepin' on!


MattyMattz

Hey Sam,

thanks for the vote of confedence.  To answer your questions:

1 - sometimes I wait 5 mins and start again, sometimes a day.  Lately, since I'm betting big units it's only 1 session a day. 
2 - All real :)
3 - DB and live casinos while on the road.

Glad it's useful.  I will be posting the next lot of sessions soon enough.

Matt

mistarlupo

Great work, Matt & Victor! Thank you for sharing with us!
Really nice results, I'm looking forward to hearing from you with more successful sessions... ;)

ChickenDinner

Hey Matt,

Those are great results using Victor's brilliant MM scheme. Big respect you both.

I really like the way you play the lines. I'm big line player myself, although very different to you. I only bet 1 line, hunting down a potentially hot line and playing with a progression for 4 bets only. But I'm now thinking of using the way you play lines as an occasional recovery system if my way starts losing.

But what I wanted to ask is you is this. After a loss, do you immediately repeat your bet (triple unit bet) on the same 5 lines, or do you wait for the next repeating line before betting the other five again? I assume you do the first. Also, have you experimented with not limiting yourself to 2 more wins after you experience a loss and instead play a slightly less agressive rise on the recovery bets?

Cheers
CD






MattyMattz

Hey CD,

when I'm playing repeating lines method, no I don't bet the immediately next bet as I've seen many times triple and quadruple lines hit back to back.  I wait for another qualifier.

I have kept playing a few times after recovering, but usually take a quick break, even if it's for 5 mins.  I'm actually working on a new method to playing the 5 lines and betting continuously.  Of course there is a progression, but nothing drastic.

Matt

ChickenDinner

Smart move on waiting for a re-qualifyer, Matt. Triples and quadruples are plentiful. I saw the same line repeat 6 times the other day...playing the way I do, though, it was a gift from the Gods!

CD

xman1970

As Kevin Keegan would say IF he's was in a job....

"I love it, I absolutely love it"  ;)

My tiny mind would never think of increasing my lifetime bankroll this way..... :-[


Outstanding Victor, hopefully one day I will be able to out it into practice...... 8)


Cheers....[smiley=beer.gif]

TwoCatSam

But the dang system is soooooo difficult to grasp..

How does it go??  Wait for a double street to hit twice in a row and then bet it won't do it again?  If it does, triple your bet for two more bets?

Sorry, I'm drunk on dog-tired!!

Sam

xman1970

Haven't a clue about the system 2Cats  :-[

Just love the money management angle.... 8)

lucky_strike


Hi mattymattz and all.

Well nice going with the 30 numbers bets, what trigger do you use?

And i just want to say it makes me happy that some of us start to take things seriosly, talk money management.
Its the next step after you succed to win more then you lose, it is to ask when is my money my money and not the casinos money.

Because every time we have an amount of money that we are prepeard to risk, then that amount will allways be a part of the game, the casino, not us, until we know how to pull of an amount to become a part of us and not the game, the casino.

This is a great post and i think its sad that there is no more posts regarding capitilations strategys, its a hudge topic and should be explored.

Happy winnings to all...

Cheers Lucky Strike

lucky_strike

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