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Started by Spike!, May 14, 2010, 12:39:51 PM

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GLC

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 14, 2010, 01:26:56 PM
read it here

Gizmotron:

I just read the article by RD Ellison through the link you provided. 

It was a very interesting read with much food for thought.  I have always felt that the only way to beat the game is by predicting trends and taking advantage of them just enough to overcome the house edge.

Thank you very much,

George

GLC

Gizmotron:

I appreciate your comments on this forum.  We're about the same age so we realize that everything we thought we knew at the tender, young age of 22 was in for some serious tweaking as the years went by.  Please don't waste your time writing responses to the negative crowd.  They're just white noise and as long as they stay civil, I guess we have to tolerate them. 

I'd just about given up on roulette until your comments started reving up my interest again. Keep writing and sharing your thoughts re: trends. 

I've read some complaints about your writing style, and some of the things you write are fairly difficult to follow.  But this adds to rather than detracts from your credibility. At least you don't write in textese which is practically a foreign language to us middle aged guys.

Cheers

gizmotron

Quote from: GLC on May 15, 2010, 09:55:37 PM
Gizmotron:

I just read the article by RD Ellison through the link you provided. 

It was a very interesting read with much food for thought.  I have always felt that the only way to beat the game is by predicting trends and taking advantage of them just enough to overcome the house edge.

Thank you very much,

George

I actually found excerpts from the book on line. There are a few pages that have some very interesting things to say. Check that out. You'll like it.

gizmotron

Quote from: GLC on May 15, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
Gizmotron: I appreciate your comments on this forum. 

Thanks

The thing about trends is that on their own they don't do anything. You learn from attempting to use them to your advantage. That experience leads to knowing when things will work. The point is not to be all worked up about discovering them. That must be second nature for you. The point is to see how it works for you. To gain experience using them to get ahead. It's that experience of playing to win that needs to be learned. You must learn how to avoid losing. The flat bet, even chance bets, balance for each bet. In those areas you can gain the experience the best. Later you can use other techniques that have many different options. The topic is educated guessing, making an educated guess. The experience is in knowing how it changes from working very well to working very badly. You need the full experience.

Noble Savage

Quote from: Spike! on May 15, 2010, 09:41:43 PM
So if you read the wheel, you don't consider what its just done, then?

Sure I do.

Current state of the device + Recent performance = Prediction for the next spin.

The device: The major physical elements/variables involved in producing the outcome (the ones I care to look at anyway)

Recent performance: Not the raw random number outcomes (nothing to exploit in those), but the outcomes of non-random physical model of the game. You must learn to see cause-effect relationships where others see chaos.

Noble Savage

Quote from: GLC on May 15, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
we realize that everything we thought we knew at the tender, young age of 22 was in for some serious tweaking as the years went by.  Please don't waste your time writing responses to the negative crowd.

You make judgments/assumptions about my personal intellect and experience regarding the game merely based on my age.

Well done.

Spike!

experience regarding the game merely based on my age.>>>

Noble, is this your open house week for your High School graduaton? Congrats!  :fan: :music:


Noble Savage

Quote from: Spike! on May 15, 2010, 11:54:50 PM
Noble, is this your open house week for your High School graduaton? Congrats!  :fan: :music:

Nice try Spike. :sarcastic:

Spike!

If you indeed are 22, I've been playing in casinos since 17 years before you were born. But I'm sure your knowledge is more vast, just ask you..

Noble Savage

Quote from: Spike! on May 16, 2010, 12:12:45 AM
But I'm sure your knowledge is more vast

I know better than to claim having a 22% edge over double-zero roulette playing outside bets based on... guessing. *cough* :sarcastic:

Spike!

I know better than to claim having a 22% edge over double-zero roulette >>

Um, that would be a 44% edge, not 22. And you're right, if you can't even figure the edge properly, why would you believe it.  :lol: :lol: If you win 72% of the time and the casino wins 28% of the time, that means you have an edge over the casino of 44%. High School math.

Noble Savage

Right, I almost forgot that your hit rate is actually 72%, shame on me.

44% edge, that's more believable. :lol:

Noble Savage

Let me guess, you'll now change your avatar to something that makes fun of my age.

If there's someone who needs growing up and getting over himself, that would be you Mr. 44% edge over the casino. ;D

Spike!

almost forgot that your hit rate is actually 72%<<<

No, you didn't. You took the difference between 50% and 72% and came up with 22%. Typical rookie mistake. I know because I made it myself when I first started playing, 17 years before you were born.

something that makes fun of my age.<<

There's no shame in being 22, you have to be that age for a whole year to reach 23. Just don't act like you're the be all end all of roulette, it wears real thin.

Spike!

getting over himself, that would be you Mr. 44% edge>>

If you check the 488 posts I've made, you won't find me bringing it up even ONE time. Its blowhards like you that can't get over it.

Spike!

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