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Short Term Data

Started by Spike!, May 14, 2010, 12:39:51 PM

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Spike!

Here's a quote from R.D. Ellison:

"Only through an evaluation of the table's past results can a player aspire to anticipate the direction of trend development, enabling him to gain valuable insights into what the future may hold at that table.The real art lies in the ability to read the data that is constantly streaming from the table. You have to follow the information labyrinth until you come to the right doorway."

He says 'ability to read the data'. That sounds like looking for clues in the short term data stream to me. Why would he say something like that if he wasn't onto something. Why do people who seriously study roulette always come to the same conclusions, that immediate past spins hold clues to the next spin. I'm talking about people who study the game, not those that study the math. We already know where that leads..

gizmotron

QuoteApplying The Law of Statistical Propensity

American Roulette Is Now Mathematically Beatable
by R.D. Ellison

Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool discovers something that either abolishes the system or expands it beyond recognition.
--Brooke's Law

read it here

gizmotron

Excerpts from a portion of the book found online:

"The message here, is that before you can learn to Win, you must first learn how to Not Lose. And the surest path to both is to have the patience of a saint, all the time, every day, every session, and with every bet you make."

He makes perfect sense in his definition to "Continuum."

In the chapter: The Formidable Power of Trends, the author says:

"In that spirit, the key to successful gambling lies in the ability to anticipate trend development. You need to size up the table as you play, and chart a course in your mind that represents its logical destination. Then you act upon that projection, for as long as you think you can continue to win.

If you don't get this; if this concept eludes you, there might not be bountiful success at the tables in your immediate future. To win, and continue to win, you have to understand, embrace, and believe in trends."


I recommend this book to new gamblers trying to figure out trends.

Noble Savage

Quote from: Spike! on May 14, 2010, 12:39:51 PM
Here's a quote from R.D. Ellison:

Meh. He's just a gambling/system book writer (I've researched him). What he suggests is pseudo-science.

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on May 14, 2010, 03:12:17 PM
Meh. He's just a gambling/system book writer (I've researched him). What he suggests is pseudo-science.

So what do you think about his opinions on "Continuum?" Do you have an opinion on that?

Noble Savage

This author even believes in things like the law of averages, and switching tables when hitting a bad run, etc.

You two are such newbies. :sarcastic:

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on May 14, 2010, 03:20:30 PM
This author even believes in things like the law of averages, and switching tables when hitting a bad run, etc.

You two are such newbies. :sarcastic:

Name calling stunts are juvenile troll craft. There is no way you have considered all that I have regarding Roulette and randomness. If you had you would show me respect. The fact is you are a jealous neophyte wannabe. If I had to go on your brain power I'd demand a refund. You just make talking about Roulette a big chore.  It's all a theoretical game carried out on the internet to you. I can't respect you. You never contribute anything. Gads, you think ending a bad stretch in a session is a newbie reaction. Yeah, you are full of good advice, NOT!

Noble Savage

You're right. this is the way to beat roulette, and you are a pioneer!

Is that what you want? Just spare us your rants.

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on May 14, 2010, 03:43:52 PM
You're right. this is the way to beat roulette, and you are a pioneer!

Is that what you want? Just spare us your rants.

I guess I shouldn't  have a comment when being called a newbie? There wasn't anyone around supporting my beliefs in trends. Only today, did I discover that there was someone around with similar opinions back in 1995. You think it's about ego. It's not. You can't spend ego. What I want is for those that are tired of losing money to progressions, contraptions, and betting systems to consider the current state concepts of bet selection. It never gets discussed without math Nazis breaking in an disrupting the conversations. You are disruptive.

Noble Savage

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 14, 2010, 03:55:16 PM
There wasn't anyone around supporting my beliefs in trends.

I thought "betting on trends" was a pretty old concept as far as casino betting and market trading are concerned. Nothing new under the sun.

"The trend is your friend"... until it ends. :sarcastic:

Noble Savage

Gizmo how about I give you streams with random EC/Dozen data containing a dominance and you tell me if the trend will break or continue? Can you predict that at a better-than-chance rate? Step ahead and prove us all wrong.

Here's something I CAN predict: You'll now accuse me of begging you for your system. :sarcastic:

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on May 14, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
Gizmo how about I give you streams with random EC/Dozen data containing a dominance and you tell me if the trend will break or continue? Can you predict that at a better-than-chance rate? Step ahead and prove us all wrong.

Here's something I CAN predict: You'll now accuse me of begging you for your system. :sarcastic:

I can prove that I would have observed the effectiveness of each selection I would make and that every instance of a continuing condition lasted for exactly how long after each one was identified. I would end up with the real data of the session. I would know the stats of the session and if it reached a practical goal. You see, there are stats for reading randomness and tracking the effectiveness of the circumstantial states for each point along the streams of data. You don't seem to get it. I don't care if a bad stretch occurs. I know that it will soon come to a good patch that gets me to my goal. I don't want to help you because you are a qualified jerk. Helping you might actually make me sick. We can't have that. I'm amazed that you can't do something that I can do. I guess you will never sing on American Idol either. I don't care about your needs because you have been a pest and deserve my indifference. Go suck an egg. I heard that one growing up. That fits for you. Beg, don't beg, you don't deserve a demonstration.

Noble Savage

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 14, 2010, 04:32:10 PM
you don't deserve a demonstration.

How ruthlessly convenient. ;D

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on May 14, 2010, 04:34:27 PM
How ruthlessly convenient. ;D

Convenient would be you and me mountain climbing. I would be happy to give you a demonstration of the laws of gravity.

Noble Savage

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 14, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
Convenient would be you and me mountain climbing.

That would be challenging and fun.

I'm 22 by the way.

Noble Savage

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