every system crashes and burns

[medo]

The only acceptable conditions would be past spins from either Hamburg or Wiesbaden
and only from the same table.As many as you wish.I accept any kind of reasonable offer,
and conditions are that method will win more then it loses.

[simon]

past spins?  I don't think so.  yes it certainly would be nice if we could bet after the ball lands.  can you say "reverse engineering"?

does your method involve increasing bets on a loss?  if so, than I already know your system will fail.  If you think you can beat the wheel with flat bets, than I can arrange a fair way to feed you spins you've never seen, as many as you want at a tme from real wheels.  especially if you are willing to take on a double zeroe wheel.

[Spike!]

yes it certainly would be nice if we could bet after the ball lands.>>>

If you were in one room and I was in another with a roulette wheel, and I was giving you the results as I spin, you wouldn't know if I was really doing that or using past spins from 10 years ago. You're betting or your results would not change in the least.

[medo]

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past spins?  I don't think so.  yes it certainly would be nice if we could bet after the ball lands.  can you say "reverse engineering"?

does your method involve increasing bets on a loss?  if so, than I already know your system will fail.  If you think you can beat the wheel with flat bets, than I can arrange a fair way to feed you spins you've never seen, as many as you want at a tme from real wheels.  especially if you are willing to take on a double zeroe wheel.

Only single zero wheel,and there is slight increase when need//not any of so far known progressions/---furthermore guarantee at least 9 units profit per 100 spins approximately.Even thought the bet is E/C,the wheel doesn't have to be Lap.BTW-it can be any future spins.

[simon]

my spin data is from double zeroe wheels.  unfortunately that is what I have to contend with, which is I guess why I am so frustrated with systems, nothing seems to be able to beat a double zeroe wheel.  my idea was that I could send the whole spreadsheet of spins to someone else here I trust not to give them to you, so you know I nothing was changed while you "played", and I suppose we could even remove either the 0's or 00's, and then give you spins one at a time or however many you want to get, and you could say what the next bet will be, etc.  but I guess that would be a tedious process.

[Spike!]

past spins?  I don't think so.  yes it certainly would be nice if we could bet after the ball lands.  can you say "reverse engineering"?>>

So you can tell the difference between spins that are 10 years old and spins from a wheel that came 2 seconds ago?

How?

[simon]

Spike I have no idea what you are trying to say.  I am the one with the spins that I personally recorded at the casino that I want to see someone's system beat (for starters, anyway.)

[Spike!]

Spike I have no idea what you are trying to say.<<

Medo said:

"The only acceptable conditions would be past spins from either Hamburg or Wiesbaden
and only from the same table."

To which you replied:

"past spins?  I don't think so.  yes it certainly would be nice if we could bet after the ball lands.  can you say "reverse engineering"

Implying that past spins are somehow diffrent than present spins. But I see you removed that post. Why did you do that?

[simon]

I didn't remove any posts, look up.  If you don't know what I mean about using past spins-- meaning spins we can already see what the outcomes were-- versus spins you haven't seen, for showing someone else that your system works, then I can't explain it further.

[Spike!]

The post where I got your quote of "past spins?  I don't think so.  yes it certainly would be nice if we could bet after the ball lands.  can you say "reverse engineering" has been removed and you switched it with another one. Where did I get the quote from if you never posted it?

You removed your original post and inserted the quote and a new post in its place. Did you think I wouldn't notice?

[simon]

I do not know what the hell you're talking about.

[Spike!]

This is a quote from a post you made: "past spins?  I don't think so.  yes it certainly would be nice if we could bet after the ball lands.  can you say "reverse engineering"


The original post that I GOT THE QUOTE FROM is gone. It vanished. Where did it go?

[simon]

it is Reply 31 in this thread

[Spike!]

Reply #31 is not the original post. You erased the original post you made, used my quote from it to lead off the revision, and changed it. I know, I was there, I read your original post minutes after you made it, and quoted from it. You can't erase the quote, oh well.

[simon]

you are totally incorrect but I am not going to try and convince you of that, it is not worth discussing and not the least bit significant to the topic of the thread, or to anything at all.

[simon]

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