What is the maths probability of this? dozen to sleep 12 times?

[Spike!]

Still, the "termers" like to always tell you when long term must hit your play.>>

People like Ken baffle them. According to the termers, Ken should have been sucked down the math hole years ago. But with a changing and crafty bet selection and a big BR and huge progression, he's still going strong. So they don't mention him or discuss him, he's too much of a pesky problem for their righteous world view.. They know he'll get whats coming to him, they just don't know if it'll be tomorrow, or in 2028. Or in their lifetimes. The math of gambling being such an exact science and all..

[gizmotron]

You can't have it both ways. Something has to tell you when the odds are in your favour otherwise you would lose at the predicted rate. Since you claim that you don't then there must be some indicator which can be taken account of, and this will change the odds - yes?

It never changes the odds. It can semantically appear to have changed something. But the truth is that taking advantage of favorable times has to do with preparedness.  You can wait out spins or end sessions, while flat betting, or you can have a two level attack method that uses minimum table bets and higher attacking bets.  You can search for tables that are producing favorable moments. I fail to reach a conclusion that if you don't have a trigger you must lose at the "predicted rate." I would believe that I must lose at a random rate at worst. It's ridiculous to give so much power to this predicted rate stuff. It just does not work that way in real play. I'm prepared to attack favorable moments and to end all downturns before they do their full damage. It's so basic that it shouldn't be made into a magical indicator.

[Spike!]

It's ridiculous to give so much power to this predicted rate stuff. It just does not work that way in real play.>>

The truth is, you can short circuit the long term math in extreme short term play very easily, if you learn to pay attention to whats happening spin to spin.

[gizmotron]

Bayes, you don't understand. Here's the truth: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/testing-zone/skeeping-dozen-concept-make-your-guess-for-how-long/msg112521/#msg112521

Now this pathetic troll Noble Savage is fishing for attention by soliciting it. This self appointed internet pest does not contribute to discussion and should be run off this forum for attempting to start trouble. Please consider banning Noble Savage.

[gizmotron]

@ Gizmo,

Basically you're saying that spins are not independent. Do you agree?

Yes or No 

They are mechanically completely independent. They are also part of the current state of statistical variance from a standpoint that it takes multiple spin results to get statistics for the most recent condition of variance. In that same way a sleeping dozen that lasted for 30 spins was confirming its continuing condition at spin 15 of that same set of past spins. When looking at groups of spins that are part past and part the future, the next spin, it's completely understandable that the noticeable trait that matters is that the combined spins are sequentially part of the whole grouping. So the answer is relative to groups of spins or a single spin. Again, the odds don't matter. The condition matters.

[Noble Savage]

This self appointed internet pest does not contribute to discussion

What discussion? You basically know it all. You guess randomness and coincidence, step on all logic and science, and anyone who says otherwise is subject to your bashing and ridicule.

should be run off this forum for attempting to start trouble. Please consider banning Noble Savage.

Check our posting history. I'm more verbally polite than you are. I use harmless humor because I don't take you or your ridiculous claims so seriously. You use direct name calling like an infant, then cry "ban him!" when you've had enough.

[medo]

NS,
Its so boring here lately and if it wasn't for Gizmos and Spikes comments-
like it or not-it would be totaly dead.Spike even make me laugh lately with
his briliant strip comments.I think SH should award these 2 for their contribution
here.Just my thoughts.

[Jean-Claud]

Isn t  it strainge the Spike and Gizmotron NEVER speak to eatch other???(never reply one to the other)

Its the Union of the LIERS that meke this fenomeno!



Lier and lier can not fight!

[Noble Savage]

Isn t  it strainge the Spike and Gizmotron NEVER speak to eatch other???(never reply one to the other)

Its the Union of the LIERS that meke this fenomeno!



Lier and lier can not fight!

haha, indeed.

I sometimes notice when they seem to have different opinions about something, they just deliberately ignore it so that they never disagree with each other.

NS,
Its so boring here lately and if it wasn't for Gizmos and Spikes comments-
like it or not-it would be totaly dead.

I know. I'm making the most out of them.

Gizmotron gets angry and rants, Spike seems to be rather cooler though.

[medo]

And I will say it again---think they are same person---they travel
together from forum to other forum like gemini and one shouldn't
take them/him/seriously.

[Nathan Detroit]

Gizmo,

Some  of your critics never spent a single minute iat a casino. They don`t even know  how a casino looks from the inside.




Nathan Detroit.
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Noble Savage]

Some  of your critics never spent a single minute iat a casino. They don`t even know  how a casino looks from the inside.

And how do you know that? You read random too and can guess/predict things you don't see?

[Nathan Detroit]

How  do we know that?

Deduction my dear Watson . ( quote by S.H.)


Nathan Detroit
HAPY WINNINGS!!!

[Spike!]

the odds don't matter. The condition matters.>>>

Long term odds and immediate conditional odds. Guess which one you can win with..

[Number Six]

Long term odds and immediate conditional odds. Guess which one you can win with..

On the wheel, you play on, on any given spin, does the ball have an equal chance of falling into any of the pockets?

[Number Six]

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