*The Cauldron*

[bombus]

This is one I will be playing for sure after christmas. The play tech casino's where I play may have too short a spin
interval to give time to track and place bets , a spin a minute casino probably is for me with this one. The big question though is are you making big bucks from it bombus 

The method looks very interesting.

Hi, Kingspin.

I can often get the wheel set up and bets down within 30 seconds, but a spin a minute is comfortable.

This system is designed for real wheel application. I don't recommend it, but I suppose you could use it on RNG. Be careful with money management if you do.

I do use this system. It is one of my preferred games to play when I visit the casino.

Yes I have won good money with it.

As for any rule based system there will be difficult dispersions that put it in the hole. Drawdowns are part and parcel of this game, any lost round costs between 36-38 units, and they do happen. How you deal with difficult dispersions is up to you. I don't like setting win/stop loss limits for people; it's something each player should figure out for themselves.

When I play The Cauldron I use a 500 unit bankroll. If it starts off bad I'll play for up to 200 spins and cash out with minimal profit if I manage to recover. I believe this system will always recover from a bad start, the problem being spin duration. It might take many more spins than you're physically able to endure so you need to be practical and set limits. If it starts off good I will cash out with whatever I can get. Sometimes 20 units, sometimes 200, generally around 100.

[birdhands]

Thanks Bombus; this is great.  So do we need ten numbers in a row without a repeat, or do we just take the ten individuals from whatever we have?

Thanks again,
Sam

[birdhands]

Another question:

my 10 numbers: 15,4,30,8,24,33,22,29,3,26

then I got: 13,5,1,3

so I won on the 3rd bet, breaking even

my question is how do I choose my new 10 numbers, do I ignore the new 3?  Otherwise I've got to keep spinning until the old 3 is gone and hopefully I get 10 new numbers without a repeat.  Am I making sense here?

[bombus]

The system:

Mark off around the wheel the last 10 individual numbers hit. This could take as little as 10 spins or many more – I've seen it take up to 21 numbers.

I think this answers your question, birdhands.


If you carefully read through the first post of this thread a few times you will understand the whole thing.

[bombus]

Another question:

my 10 numbers: 15,4,30,8,24,33,22,29,3,26

then I got: 13,5,1,3

so I won on the 3rd bet, breaking even

my question is how do I choose my new 10 numbers, do I ignore the new 3?  Otherwise I've got to keep spinning until the old 3 is gone and hopefully I get 10 new numbers without a repeat.  Am I making sense here?

Correct. You win on bet 3, breaking even (minus 1 unit actually).

The easiest way for me to explain what to do next is, because you are working backwards to get the next 10 numbers, you add in the new 3 and ignore the old 3 so your new 10 numbers are, 8,24,33,22,29,26,13,5,1,3

[birdhands]

Bombus,
   I reread your original post and it's still not clear to me, but I suspect that you probably mean the first 10 individual numbers, ignoring any repeats.  So if I get 3,7,32,13,15,7,31,15,17,4,8,3,13,12- then my 10 numbers are 3,7,32,13,15,31,17,4,8,12.  I hope this is right.  I really don't want to waste your time and I did read the post carefully and more than once, just so you know.  Sorry if I'm being dense.

Thanks again and all the best,
Sam

[bombus]

Hi birdhands,

Yes those are the numbers.

Yes ignore all repeaters to get the last 10 individual numbers.

Soon I will post a scenario showing how to proceed when the 10 number groups hits first.

Cheers.

[jrhelp007]

Hey bombus, thank you for your postings.

Questions:

1. Can we apply this method to the zero & double zero wheel?


Thanks,

John

[bombus]

I designed this for single zero wheel with no thought given to double zero.

A no zero wheel would work the best, but there are none where I play.

Cheers.

[bombus]

Next scenario.

First 10 numbers out:
3
28
20
21
2
23
17
0
36
11

Next 3 numbers out:
23,15,23

This next example results in a win on bet 2.

After set up the first number out is #23 signaling a bet on group 10.

Bet 1 unit each on 0,21,2,17,36,11,23,20,28,3 = -10 units.

Next number out is #15. Group 10 lost signaling a bet on groups 10&2.

Bet 1 unit each on 0,21,2,17,36,11,23,20,28,3, &  15,25,27,8,24,1,9,29,35. = -19 units.

Next number out is #23. Group10 wins.
Return = 36 units / 36 – 29 +7 units.

First attachment shows how I mark the game.

In the centre above the line you can see groups 2 hit once, and group 10 hit twice.
Below the line on the left shows the 2 groups hit, on the right shows what groups were bet, and the results.

Second attachment shows the card set up for the next bet with the last 10 numbers marked, etc. You can see number 3 has been dropped, and number 15 added to the 10 number group, also changing the arrangement of the other groups for the next game.

[bombus]

Next scenario.

I love this type of scenario when it happens...

First 10 numbers out:
3
28
20
21
2
23
17
0
36
11

Next 7 numbers out:
23,23,21,3,0,15,24

This next example results in a win on bet 1,2,3,4, & 6.

After set up the first number out is #23 signaling a bet on group 10.

Bet 1 unit each on 0,21,2,17,36,11,23,20,28,3 = -10 units.

Next 4 numbers out are 23,21,3,0. Group 10 wins 4 times in a row.

Next number out is #15. Group 10 lost signaling a bet on groups 10&2.

Bet 1 unit each on 0,21,2,17,36,11,23,20,28,3, &  15,25,27,8,24,1,9,29,35. = -19 units.

Next number out is #24. Group 2 wins.
Return = 180 units / 180 – 69 +111 units.

First attachment shows how I mark the game.

In the centre above the line you can see group 10 hit 5 times, and group 2 hit twice.
Below the line on the left shows the 2 groups hit, on the right shows what groups were bet, and the results.

Second attachment shows the card set up for the next bet with the last 10 numbers marked, etc. You can see numbers 20,28 have been dropped, and numbers 15,24 added to the 10 number group, also changing the arrangement of the other groups for the next game.

[schoenpoetser]

With rising interest I try ed to understand this beautiful work of art.It is a beauty between all the systems. Art is not always practical. You should frame The Cauldron and hang it on the wall.

I suggest the next variation.
Group 0 the numbers 0-9
Group 1 the numbers 10 -18
Group 2 the numbers 19 -27
Group 3 the numbers 28- 36

You can play this system grosso modo the same as the Cauldron of Bombus.Mathematically there is no difference.The chance of success is equal,but it is more easy to play

[birdhands]

"Mathematically there is no difference"  Is this true?  It seems to me the difference is that the cauldron has the extra advantage of capitalizing on repeat numbers.

[insidebet]

Hello,

At the very least this so-called Cauldron has the merit to go off the beaten path a bit.

But put aside the bubbles and the minestrone, is there a reason why this could prove to be profitable over the long run?  If there is not, this just wishful thinking just like the rest.

I played it for  for real money for just a little while.  I tested it for another 150 spins or so.  Both  were losers.  Not by much, mind you.   200 spins or so means absolutely nothing, I know that.

Is there anyone out there capable of coding this?  On RX would be quite difficult, I would imagine.  But on Excel maybe?

Insidebet

[bombus]

With rising interest I try ed to understand this beautiful work of art.It is a beauty between all the systems. Art is not always practical. You should frame The Cauldron and hang it on the wall.

I suggest the next variation.
Group 0 the numbers 0-9
Group 1 the numbers 10 -18
Group 2 the numbers 19 -27
Group 3 the numbers 28- 36

You can play this system grosso modo the same as the Cauldron of Bombus.Mathematically there is no difference.The chance of success is equal,but it is more easy to play

Thank you, schoenpoester.

Mathematically there is no difference, practically your variation is easier to play, for disrupting the ruinous attempts of many random sequences The Cauldron stands supreme.

I don't know about hanging it on the wall, but I am thinking about getting a t-shirt made.  

Cheers.  

[bombus]

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