Second Last for D/C

hermes · February 16, 2011, 08:02:08 PM

SECOND LAST ROULETTE SYSTEM

Simple and effective system for playing one dozen or column.
You bet always the second last dozen or column. Wait for 2 different D/C before bet decision. For example if came 2nd dozen (24) then 3rd dozen (32) the next bet would be 2nd dozen.
The proposal progression D'Alembert for one D/C : Win +1 unit; 3 Losses -1 unit; showed very suitable and flexible for this game.
Short example of play:
19
17
21
34 next spin bet 1 unit on 2nd dozen
7 next spin bet 1 unit on 3rd dozen
11 next spin bet 1 unit on 3rd dozen
36 won- next spin bet 2 units on 1st dozen
35 next spin bet 2 units on 1st dozen
4 won- next spin bet 3 units on 3rd dozen
28 won- next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
29 next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
15 next spin bet 4 units on 3rd dozen
8 next spin bet 3 units on 2nd dozen
16 won- next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
16 next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
1 won- next spin bet 5 units on 2nd dozen
27 next spin bet 6 units on 1st dozen
7 won- next spin bet 7 units on 3rd dozen and so on...

We normally don't bet that aggressive D'Alembert but have 2 other choices:
A/ Economical: every time we get + (plus) result reset to 1 unit.
B/ Common sense: every time we get +10 units reset to 1 unit.

I am looking for constructive improvement from you experienced gamblers. I already posted this system but there was not enough interested members to crack the wheel.

Cheers Hermes

darrynf · February 16, 2011, 09:40:55 PM

are you only ever betting two dozens ?

what do you do if a dozen sleeps for awhile ?

balint · February 17, 2011, 05:11:54 AM

You bet on an *event* the second last dozen, one dozen to bet each time.
If a dozen sleeps for a while it is ok for this method, the enemy are
the chops 321332132....and the repeat of the same doz. Ex: 123333331....
Solution i see for this cases is when hit L1L2L3L1L2L3(3213321) stop and wait one
virtual win , then bet again the next progression level.

33
22 bet D3/1u
5 L1 -1 bet D2/1u
22 W +1 bet D1/2u
18 L1 -1 bet D1/2u
1 W +3 ... D2/3u
7 L1 0 D2/3u
9 L2 -3 D2/3u
16 W +3 D1/4u
21 L1 -1 D1/4u
26 L2 -5 D2/4u
22 W +3 D3/5u
34 W +13 D2/1u Reset
9 L1 +12 D3/1u
13 L2 +11 D1/1u
23 L3 +10 D1/1u
9 W +12 D2/2u
29 L1 +10 D1/2u
14 L2 +8 D3/2u
23 L3 +6 D3/1u
8 L1 +5 D2/1u
7 L2 +4 D2/1u
15 W +6 D1/2u
30 L1 +4 D2/2u
31 L2 +2 D2/2u
6 L3 0 D3/ 1u
35 W +2 D1/2u
1 W +6 D3/3u
29 W +12 D1/4u
10 w +20 D3/1u Reset
...and so on....

darrynf · February 17, 2011, 05:30:16 AM

i dont really understand your progression.

have you played with real money ?

balint · February 17, 2011, 05:52:39 AM

D,

Hermes write W +1 / LLL -1

The progression is easy, a positive progresion , rise your bet after a win( +1)
and after three cosecutive loses back 1 unit (-1). Reset to 1 unit when bank in plus ( ex: +5 or +10 new profit).
Stop lose ? maybe around - 100.

darrynf · February 17, 2011, 05:54:20 AM

im pretty sure he dosent show that in his test

balint · February 17, 2011, 06:07:34 AM

Take a closer look ...his example and mine are both ok.
After L1 and L2 bet same units, only after L3 back (-1) one unit,
and after W rise( +1) .

hermes · February 17, 2011, 08:28:53 PM

Good take balint, thanks.
We could apply the WL strategy also. But we could bet it also this way.
1D 2D 3D
X
X
X
X
X
X
X A
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
----------------------------
X
X
X B
X
------------------------------
X
X
X C
X
X
-----------------------------
We profit at A formation but not at B or C. If one D/C sleeps we get mostly formation A and less B.
Other possibility would be to bet zick zacks and doubles but when triple shows up stop and wait different D/C. Eg:
1D 2D 3D
X
X next bet 1st D 1u.
X won- next bet 2D 2u. +2
X lost- next bet 2D 2u. 0
X won- next bet 1D 1u. +4 reset
X won- next bet 2D 1u. +2
X lost- next bet 2D 1u. +1
X lost- next bet 2D 1u. 0
? ? ? Stop and wait for diff. D/C!

Doubles come very often but triples not so often that's why we could bet against doubles also. Sometimes comes even 10 doubles before one longer streak.
Cheers Hermes

medo · February 18, 2011, 03:24:23 PM

Quote from: hermes on February 17, 2011, 08:28:53 PM
Good take balint, thanks.
We could apply the WL strategy also. But we could bet it also this way.
1D 2D 3D
X
X
X
X
X
X
X A
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
----------------------------
X
X
X B
X
------------------------------
X
X
X C
X
X
-----------------------------
We profit at A formation but not at B or C. If one D/C sleeps we get mostly formation A and less B.
Other possibility would be to bet zick zacks and doubles but when triple shows up stop and wait different D/C. Eg:
1D 2D 3D
X
X next bet 1st D 1u.
X won- next bet 2D 2u. +2
X lost- next bet 2D 2u. 0
X won- next bet 1D 1u. +4 reset
X won- next bet 2D 1u. +2
X lost- next bet 2D 1u. +1
X lost- next bet 2D 1u. 0
? ? ? Stop and wait for diff. D/C!

Doubles come very often but triples not so often that's why we could bet against doubles also. Sometimes comes even 10 doubles before one longer streak.
Cheers Hermes

Therefore you play 3 dozens simultaneously;

LAST PENULTIMATE FURTHES
2
3
1
3 1- 2+ 1-.............................FIRST BET VIRTUAL
2 2- 1- 2+ 1- 1-
3 3- 4+ 1- 0- 1-
3 8+ 1- 2- 5+ 4+

End session and now retrack 3 new doz virtually

3
2
1
2........................................................first bet virtual.......and so on.

This is a H.G.when you start with large BR to win 15-30% of it...and can finish the game after any of the winning short sessions.Try it and see what am about here...random versus random.Good luck.

hermes · February 19, 2011, 12:38:07 AM

medo I cannot get it how you play 3 dozens simultaneously? Could you make a short play example cca. 15 spins?
Thanks Hermes

medo · February 19, 2011, 02:15:47 AM

Quote from: hermes on February 19, 2011, 12:38:07 AM
medo I cannot get it how you play 3 dozens simultaneously? Could you make a short play example cca. 15 spins?
Thanks Hermes

Hermes,
But didn't I do it above in several spins.If stil not clear,let know and will do it later.

medo · February 19, 2011, 09:45:46 AM

At the start wait for a 3 doz.to alternate;

2
3
3 LAST DEC. PENULTIMATE FURTHEST
2
1...trigger for starting betting
3.....first bet virtual,cause outcome egal
2....now start bet for real 1- 1- 2+ 0- 0-
2 4+ 2- 1- 1+ 1+
......restart after any win,waiting for a
......3 doz.alternating.
3
2
1...trigger for start betting
3...first bet virtual
2...now start betting 1- 1- 2+
1 2- 2- 2+ 2-
3 3- 3- 2+ 6-
3 8+ 4- 1- 1-
2 3- 5 4+ 5-
3 4- 12+ 1- 2+ 3+

And so on mate,hopping you got it,and the only enemy is;

1
2
3
1
2
3
1
2
3
1
2
3
Bur even after 12 of these/which are very,very rare,you must addmit/with the proper BR
you quickly get out of the hole.Let me know your thoughts.Flat....in...o

darrynf · February 19, 2011, 11:32:18 AM

even im lost mate.

what is

last dec, penultimate, furthest

are you betting 3 dozens or is each one of the maes is to a style of play and the one that is dominant is the one you play, like i said mate im a little loss.

hermes · February 19, 2011, 11:35:35 PM

hi medo, now I understand. But why do you play first virtual? We get mostly 123123 and 123123123 is very seldom.
But it would counts also 231231231 and 312312312. I would apply progression with stoploss. Flat will be difficult to win.
Hermes

medo · February 20, 2011, 03:34:21 PM

Quote from: hermes on February 19, 2011, 11:35:35 PM
hi medo, now I understand. But why do you play first virtual? We get mostly 123123 and 123123123 is very seldom.
But it would counts also 231231231 and 312312312. I would apply progression with stoploss. Flat will be difficult to win.
Hermes

FIRST SPIN AFTER 3 ALTERNATING DOZ---is virtual,cause always come egal/unles zero hits/and you are right,identical chops are enemies,but not so hurtful,as we break these streaks in most cases after overall win--
Try it.

medo · February 20, 2011, 03:34:21 PM

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