Like To Have Your Mind Blown?

[bombus]

The Charlie Sheen Bi-Winning system.

It wins over here & wins over there.  

[cheese]

The Charlie Sheen Biwinning system.

You got nothing, in other words. You kinda 'know' the outcomes are in no way related, but secretly suspect they are.
You would would never play a rule based system on random cloud formations, but you do play them on roulette.

[bombus]

What difference does it make?

One string, two strings, skip a spin, add a spin, it's all the same – random outcomes.

You could bust up the results with a Fibonacci sequence and still get the same results.

The important thing is to select the most opportune time to place a bet, or sequence of bets.

Like a BB gun duck shoot at the carnival, you don't try and shoot every duck. You take careful aim and shoot only at selected ducks.

[cheese]

The important thing is to select the most opportune time to place a bet, or sequence of bets.

What is the most opportune time to bet on based on? How do you apply rules to something follows no rules? Its like trying to house train a dog that has no brain. I keep asking these questions and you keep avoiding them with vague, generalized answers.

[Mike]

What difference does it make?

One string, two strings, skip a spin, add a spin, it's all the same – random outcomes.

You could bust up the results with a Fibonacci sequence and still get the same results.

The important thing is to select the most opportune time to place a bet, or sequence of bets.

Like a BB gun duck shoot at the carnival, you don't try and shoot every duck. You take careful aim and shoot only at selected ducks.

It seems to me that the last 2 sentences contradict the first 3. I too, would like to know how you choose an "opportune" time. If it's all random and the past doesn't matter, how can there be such a thing as an opportunity? My definition of opportunity being "a favourable juncture of circumstances".

We keep going around in circles on this. There is no middle way; either opportunities exist, or they don't.

[Mike]

"Have Your Mind Blown" is the right title for this thread.

"it's all random and the past doesn't matter, but you have to find the right opportunities, and while you're at it find me a square circle".  

I cannae hold her much longer captain!  

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This proves that true random numbers aren't connected. If you can get them from two different sources and the results are the same, systems are useless against them. A system depends on whats come before, and this proves whats come before is meaningless.

If what has come before is meaningless, then why do you focus on past spins and record them with a pencil and paper while playing your E/C method?

[Zindrod]

If what has come before is meaningless, then why do you focus on past spins and record them with a pencil and paper while playing your E/C method?

Must be because there is so much time between spins that Cheese is writing a novel (About cheeses of the World)  

[gizmotron]

Name a rule based system that beats random outcomes.

The Gizmotron Algorithm. It's not built yet. After all, computers are just tools that execute elaborate sets of instructions. Now that would be a BIG DEAL. Until then, I agree with you.

BTW, my mind is not blown yet. When does that happen?

[I have cookies]

Bombus you are correct - we can use one wheel and get 23456789 10 independent strings of distribution - i don't understand why some one would use two wheels - in the end its the same thing - what a ridiculous topic ...

[ReDsQuaD]

Bombus you are correct - we can use one wheel and get 23456789 10 independent strings of distribution - I don't understand why some one would use two wheels - in the end its the same thing - what a ridiculous topic ...

You took the words out of my mouth.

James.

[birdhands]

This is the part I really don't understand:

Its the string of random numbers
that you're playing that counts, NOT where they came from.

[bombus]

...I too, would like to know how you choose an "opportune" time...."a favourable juncture of circumstances".

Only bet when you're winning.

[cheese]

This is the part I really don't understand:

Its the string of random numbers
that you're playing that counts, NOT where they came from.

The whole point of the exercise is show that a rule based system cannot work on events that are unconnected. What better way to show they are unconnected than to take them from two different sources.

[cheese]

The Gizmotron Algorithm. It's not built yet.

Yeah, we saw a demo of it in your other thread. Don't waste your time....

[cheese]

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