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[cheese]

I track two wheels on paper. My goal is to get a single string of numbers to work with.

I take the first number from wheel A.

I take the second number from wheel B.

I take the third number from wheel A.

I take the forth number from wheel B.

And so on till I get a string of numbers to work with.

I calculate the next bet using my method for R/B.

I do this for 20 bets, keeping the switching back and
forth going when writing down the next number.

What I find is, my hit rate is unchanged from when I
use a string of numbers from one table. I win just as
many times, percentage wise. Obviously this
is playing on paper, what table would I place the bet on,
A or B. Thats not the point.

Here is the point. This settles once and for all that the
previous number is completely independent and random
from the next number. They aren't in any way connected. Like this
is a big surprise to anybody who understands random. Its the string of random numbers
that you're playing that counts, NOT where they came from.

If you don't understand what this means, I'll try and explain it
further. This is a very 'big deal'.

[Zindrod]

I track two wheels on paper. My goal is to get a single string of numbers to work with.

I take the first number from wheel A.

I take the second number from wheel B.

I take the third number from wheel A.

I take the forth number from wheel B.

And so on till I get a string of numbers to work with.

I calculate the next bet using my method for R/B.

I do this for 20 bets, keeping the switching back and
forth going when writing down the next number.

What I find is, my hit rate is unchanged from when I
use a string of numbers from one table. I win just as
many times, percentage wise. Obviously this
is playing on paper, what table would I place the bet on,
A or B. Thats not the point.

Here is the point. This settles once and for all that the
previous number is completely independent and random
from the next number. They aren't in any way connected. Like this
is a big surprise to anybody who understands random. Its the string of random numbers
that you're playing that counts, NOT where they came from.

If you don't understand what this means, I'll try and explain it
further. This is a very 'big deal'.

Correct. That is what every knowlegable roulette player on this forum have been saying for ages.

[bombus]

This settles once and for all that the
previous number is completely independent and random
from the next number. They aren't in any way connected.

No it doesn't.

What I find is, my hit rate is unchanged from when I
use a string of numbers from one table.

So what?
You don't need to use two tables to split or combine the permanence. One table can do the job.

[cheese]

So what?
You don't need to use two tables to split or combine the permanence. One table can do the job.

What does the permanence have to do with anything?  What are you talking about?

[cheese]

Correct. That is what every knowlegable roulette player on this forum have been saying for ages.

Yes, and I've been one of them. This just proves it, thats all.

[bombus]

Permanence = string of numbers (or block of cheese) however you want to slice it.

[cheese]

Permanence = string of numbers (or block of cheese) however you want to slice it.

What does that have to do with what I said?

[bombus]

Ok maybe I don't get it, correct me if I'm wrong...

You form a string of numbers by taking a number from here and a number from there, then a number from here and a number from there, etc, then play your method using the mixed string for similar results to a single string – is that what you're saying?

[cheese]

The results are exactly the same, not similar.

[bombus]

Ok.

So you are combining two number strings to create your own single string and the results are the same.

You can do this a million ways on one table is what I'm saying.

And yes the results will be similar at the very least.

How the results can be improved is what the punters want to know.

[cheese]

Ok.

So you are combining two number strings to create your own single string and the results are the same.

This proves that true random numbers aren't connected. If you can get them from two different sources and the results are the same, systems are useless against them. A system depends on whats come before, and this proves whats come before is meaningless.

[telden]

cheese thanks but I dont understand what you are saying. you can prove random numbers arent connected but we already know this? please explain what you mean.

[cheese]

you can prove random numbers arent connected but we already know this?

You could have fooled me. If you already know this, why would you attempt to play a rule driven system on completely unconnected events? You SAY you know it, but you don't act that way.

[bombus]

...A system depends on whats come before...

That's just wrong.

A system can follow its own path regardless of what's come before.

A system can also run on several levels through several number strings from the same table.

[cheese]

A system can follow its own path regardless of what's come before.

Thats what a system does, it follows its own path. How does this beat random outcomes? Name a rule based system that beats random outcomes.

[cheese]

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