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Need some feedback on my idea

Started by Amazin, January 20, 2012, 08:14:31 PM

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Amazin

Hi everyone, I'm still new here and roulette in general so be nice, lol :give_heart:

I need someone who's good at maths to work this out. 

Basically I got into roulette few weeks ago and I won £300 but lost £200 yesterday at the local casino.  I was betting on the dozens using a progressive betting pattern if the dozen I'm betting on doesn't come up. 

I would bet £1, £2, £3, £4, £6, £9, £14, £21, £32, . . . and so on, each time increase it by 50% of the last bet.  I often wait until a dozen doesn't come up 5/6 times before I start betting on it.  I lost all my money yesterday because the mid dozen didn't come up for 26 times!!! Can you believe that :o

So here is my idea, inspired by this thread: hxxp: vlsroulette. com/index. php?topic=3283. 0

If the progression is getting out of hand, e. g.  £50, then £75 then £107! I just split the next bet in half and place it in another dozen. 

E. g.  Next bet should be £21, I put £11 on the mid Dozen (the one I was betting on) and £11 on the last or the first Dozen depend on the situation. 

If I loss them both, I just increase both bet by 50%, and one of them will hit soon.  Unless 0s and first Dozen keep coming up which is very unlikely. 

Or, Put £11 on the Mid Dozen and put £6 on the other 2 Dozens.  If the Middle misses again but one of the other Dozens hits, does that mean it will cancel each other out? e. g.  £6x3=£18 So I made £6 profit from the 2 dozens with smaller bet.  I can then go back to my mid Dozen and start the progression again from £11?

Would that work? I'm just trying to find a way to reduce the risk because after the certain point, the progression gets silly and out of control with limited bankroll. 

Amazin

51 views and no replies?

thanx everyone

Mr J

Thats just how it is, dont get too upset. You could have 400 views and no replies.

Ken

Davemd


Hi Amazin,

Take a look at the Whittacker Progression for Doz & Col bets

Its by no means foolproof but if you like to play that way better than the way you have been staking.

nolinks://nolinks.onlinecasinomastermind.com/whittacker_progression_for_doz__col_bets

John Gold

Well Amazin, in my opinion, you have learned your first lesson.

1) Don't back against what the wheel is throwing up. If something is not coming up 26 times, then something else is coming up way above expectation.

Now people will say 'ok smart ass, when excactly do you know when a trend is going to start'

My answer is you don't ever know for sure but it only costs 1 unit to find out. If you are wrong STOP!!!!

That is where you just learned your second lesson. Don't go chasing that same bet with a monster progression.
WHY would you actually want to anyhow. You got the first bet WRONG. Look for another opportunity.

Proofreaders2K

First off, play only positive progressions.  Negative progressions eventually reach the highest level and miss.
With one dozen betting you could increase the bet half a unit on a win or one unit each on two dozens betting.
On a loss, less the bet by one unit on one dozen, two units each on two dozens betting.

Also, a cold dozen (from observation) usually warms after 12 spins.

Play with fun money on a reliable wheel or on paper (no real money) until it wins consistently as possible  :)

Set a win goal and stop-loss of about +/-20% of original bankroll per session.



John Gold

Just to add a bit more info...

Statisticians say the casino will mostly win because they have more money (considerably more) than the players bankroll.

So you have to understand that playing a progression through a bad cycle will more than likely clean you out. You are playing right into the hands of the casino by doing this.

One of the biggest advantages to a player with discipline is to be able to choose when to bet and when not to bet.

The idea of upping your bets when you are experiencing a good cycle is not such a bad idea. Just remember to cut down the bet again when the results start to get a bit choppy.

It is not rocket science. It just requires some common sense and not letting your emotions interfere. Like Nathan says.....A good player always has one foot pointing towards the door. Don't mistake that for thinking you should quit after a win (you never know how long a winning run can go on for). It's much more important to have the discipline to walk away after a loss or two.

good luck.

Amazin

Thanks everyone, I was feeling bit frustrated because when I found this forum, I thought this is great! I'm also a member of many other forums and I know the true value of it, which is priceless.  I'm under the impression that few of you are actually making a living out of roulette?

After what happend at the casino, I felt like my dream just got shattered.  I want to make a living gambling or make consistent profit out of it.  I see so many headless chicken at the casino gambling away their hard earned cash.  To them, its just entertainment, no skill involved, only luck. 

@John Gold: Thank you very much for your advice.  You seem very knowledgable about roulette.  Did you get my PM? I'm really struggling in understanding your system, so many jargons and things I don't understand because Im so new.  Its so complex but it seems reliable.  Can we talk about it? over skype/phone?


QuoteFirst off, play only positive progressions.   Negative progressions eventually reach the highest level and miss.
With one dozen betting you could increase the bet half a unit on a win or one unit each on two dozens betting.
On a loss, less the bet by one unit on one dozen, two units each on two dozens betting.

I don't even know what a positive progression is.  will try and look it up.  what do you think of spliting the bet? e. g.  once the bet gets too big, put half of it on another dozen. 




Proofreaders2K

"I don't even know what a positive progression is."--Amazin

Let's say you have a base bet of $5 on a dozen and a $300 bankroll.  If you bet on 2nd dozen and #23 hits (win) the next time it is time to bet on a dozen you would bet more than $5.

"What do you think of spliting the bet? e. g.  once the bet gets too big, put half of it on another dozen."

Avoid big bets at all costs.  Moreover the more numbers you bet, the lesser the win.

Proofreaders2K

One more thing.  Get a good knowledgeable friend to help you learn and play Roulette (or any other gambling game) If you have him/her on chat or accompany you to the walk-in casino.  This way you're likely to make fewer mistakes.  Any one of these users above (including myself) I'm sure wouldn't mind helping.

Amazin

thanks for the advice guys. 

QuoteLet's say you have a base bet of $5 on a dozen and a $300 bankroll.   If you bet on 2nd dozen and #23 hits (win) the next time it is time to bet on a dozen you would bet more than $5.

Is that the one where you increase your bet if you win then start from 1 unit again if you lose? I think you only make profit if long streak come up.  If the numbers/colours keep changing, then I will lose all my money?

QuoteOne of the biggest advantages to a player with discipline is to be able to choose when to bet and when not to bet.

The idea of upping your bets when you are experiencing a good cycle is not such a bad idea.  Just remember to cut down the bet again when the results start to get a bit choppy.

It is not rocket science.  It just requires some common sense and not letting your emotions interfere

sounds like Poker philosophy to me!

Proofreaders2K

"Is that the one where you increase your bet if you win then start from 1 unit again if you lose? I think you only make profit if long streak come up.  If the numbers/colours keep changing, then I will lose all my money?-Amazin

Increase you bet on a win by one unit, reduce the bet by two on a loss.

If the numbers/colors keep changing and you lose money after two attempts, stop.


Proofreaders2K

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