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cheese

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SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 09, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
SmartLiveCasino, the one thats on TV in the UK, is
cheating at roulette. They have a live dealer and
a live wheel, but the dealer isn't spinning the wheel
in real time. They show them standing behind the table
and they cut to an overhead shot of the wheel being
spun. It you watch the dealer before the spin, they
often have their hands resting on the rail
that goes around the table. When they cut to the
shot of the wheel, in the 1/100th of a second from
when we see the hands resting and no body language
at all that the dealer is going to spin, in that 1/100th
of a second the dealers hand appears inside the wheel.
Impossible unless you can move at the speed of light.
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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 10, 2012, 11:46:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0K63RYrlXc

Yeh I also heard smartlive casino assassinates people who win big.
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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 02:13:08 AM
There's no way they're spinning that wheel in real time.
You never see a dealer spin it, all you see is a hand. It
could have been taped a year ago. The dealer never makes a
move towards the wheel, never even looks at the wheel.
There is no body language evidence that a spin is coming.
There's no real players to verify it, no payoffs to
live players. I saw a dealer actually take a half step backwards
and they cut to her hand immediately entering the wheel.
A physical impossibility.
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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 05:40:19 AM
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There's no way they're spinning that wheel in real time.
You never see a dealer spin it, all you see is a hand. It
could have been taped a year ago.

I made the same statement about a year ago, they tell the video what number video to play to the viewers, to me, a scam right in front of your eyes.
It probably wont work!

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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 08:13:53 AM
Some of you folk are easily confused. Go to the homepage and click on the mini social roulette free play link. Also run the live roulette game at the same time.

Oops! Looks like some of you got that one wrong! LMAO.

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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 11:24:03 AM
Some of you folk are easily confused. Go to the homepage and click on the mini social roulette free play link. Also run the live roulette game at the same time.

Oops! Looks like some of you got that one wrong! LMAO.

Its not even about confusion, its a lack of knowledge about the game. That's it.

If some 1 believes roulette is fixed, then they simply don't understand how roulette works.
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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 01:37:23 PM
Some of you folk are easily confused. Go to the homepage and click on the mini social roulette free play link. Also run the live roulette game at the same time.


Yeah, so what? It never shows the dealer spinning
the wheel. The dealer never makes a move to spin
the wheel, yet her hand instantly appears in the
wheel in the next shot? Is she Superwoman, faster
than the speed of light? Watch Dublin.bet, you can
see every bit of the operation, where the players bet,
the dealer spinning the wheel, where the ball lands,
the dealer paying off the players. We've had people
verify the spins in person in Dublin. SmartLive is in
a TV studio somewhere, their are no players, you
can't verify anything. Just yesterday a woman with
long fingers was the dealer, yet the hand in the wheel
had short stubby fingers. You people are being scammed
right in front of your noses.
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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 04:21:48 PM
Cheese, u may be right or u may be not. It is not exactly the hands move right after u saw a dealer standing. It is after a couple of seconds. The thing could be this: all their set may have a very strict time frame. So the camera shows the dealer standing right there without moving (as u say), then right after that the camera points  to the wheel (or the second camera looking at the wheel is turned on for us), right after that the dealer gets the signal to move to the wheel and he moves his hand.
Other casinos may not have this kind of set-up, other casinos may not have this stiff time frame for the dealer. So with the other casinos u can see the dealer moving without depending on how camera is set at that moment of the time. But with smartlive it can work just like that.

I am not saying I am 100% sure, but it is possible.

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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 07:55:59 PM
My instructions were pretty clear.
Go to the smartlive homepage.
Click on the live casino tab.
You have the mini social roulette free play in the top left hand corner of the screen.
Click on it.
You will see a continuous shot of the dealer and see them spin the wheel.
You can also run the other feed at the same time just to see how everything correlates.
This shows everything is above board.
The gambling industry is the most stringently regulated industry in the UK because of the capacity for high level organised crime.
The bottom line is they don't need to cheat and the allegations on here are unfounded if you care to check.

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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 08:49:14 PM
There are many ways to" manipulate"  the outcome  of a game. On-line  casinos don`t  have the best reputation for being 100 % straightforward.

From all the observations  we can draw  our own conclusions. This matter is not just being discussed  here at VLS  but a  prominent  Forum in the  USA  is also  discussing the recent  developments  at SmartLive  casino.

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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 08:59:01 PM
There are many ways to" manipulate"  the outcome  of a game. On-line  casinos don`t  have the best

Nathan detroit

So how can a game of roulette be manipulated? I am interested to know.

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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 11, 2012, 10:32:38 PM
OK Cheese. if i have an opportunity to check the "irregularities" i will let u know about my conclusions. If the outcome is dictated by a computer rather than a real wheel, this is similar to RNG and may be felt on a long run. Maybe.

It's too risky for any casino to play such mind games in such a country with strong gambling laws as UK.

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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 12, 2012, 07:27:31 AM
I'm going back a few years n I cannot for the life of me remember the casino's name.......

BUT there WAS a sky channel in the Uk that had a casino that DID do the things claimed here.....

there was a busty presenter in between spins chatting to you :swoon:, then, they went to a pre recorded spin from an actual wheel which was chosen at "random"

It was a very strange set up which unsurprisingly didn't last long..... :skull:
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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 12, 2012, 09:00:08 AM
Yes as i expected Nathen, you can't back up your false claims. That's all this forum is about, peepz talking about something they have no idea about.
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Re: SmartLiveCasino Cheating?
March 12, 2012, 09:06:33 AM
From all the observations  we can draw  our own conclusions. This matter is not just being discussed  here at VLS  but a  prominent  Forum in the  USA  is also  discussing the recent  developments  at SmartLive  casino.

Nathan detroit

Could I get that link for the thread over in the US of A pls ND......

Thanking you in advance...... :good:
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