Fundraising for Cancer Research UK

[RobbieD]

I know this will probably be deleted, but it's worth a try......

My daughter is aiming to raise £1,000 for Cancer Research UK via Race for Life in Chelmsford, UK, on 22 July.

If you can dig deep it would be greatly appreciated - any amount would be marvellous and you'll get more satisfaction than putting it on your lucky number which always loses!   lol

The catchphrase is 'All of Us vs Cancer' - I have been affected by people having cancer, and there's a good chance you will meet it in some shape or form one day, be it yourself or a loved-one. It will be beaten one day.

Please visit: nolinks://nolinks.raceforlifesponsorme.org/to-make-a-memory/eurl.axd/4fcb082ef2407946bda677fd05c5c4bf

Thank you........

[RobbieD]

Oh well, at least I had 52 views......

And to those 52 viewers, you have entered into the world of Karma - you viewed the post because you had a slight interest, you may have been touched by Cancer at some point in your life. Believe me, it will bite you at some point in your life.

Not one pound has been donated from this forum. I actually find that disgusting.

My daughter has managed to raise £455 towards finding a cure for one of the most terrible diseases we know.

Go on, donate just a pound - don't give it to William Hill or Ladbrokes - in 10, 20, 30 years' time, you will be thankful you did.

[Steve]

THE CURE FOR CANCER (AND PREVENTION):

1. INCREASE OXYGEN IN BLOOD: Many good herbs for this, including sacred blue lotus. Also plain oxygen mask therapy done very frequently. Cancer does not survive well in high oxygen environment. You could also try hydrogen peroxide, but its risky if done wrong.

2. EAT AND DRINK WITH HIGH ALKALINE DIET: Acidity is cancer's best environment. You need to be alkaline. Cancer does not survive well in alkaline environment.

Rather than plain cutting out cancer, it may be better to directly inject and localize high oxygen and alkaline solution into the cancer cells. It kills them, or rather corrects what cancer is: which is the inability to die and renew as a healthy cell does. Instead of dying like they should, they keep on going.

The cure for heart disease is also found, about 50 years ago. The major heart foundations know about it. They are not doing anything about it.

Far worse than cancer is ignorance.

[Steve]

One example is Alkaline Diet: Why? Cancer? Gout? Weight? Health?

But healthy people arent as profitable.. people in need are most profitable.

[Bayes]

Ah, if only it were that simple. The truth is out there somewhere.

Tullio Simoncini lost his offcial license to practice medicine in 2003  in Italy. On May 2006 he was convicted to 3 y. for manslaughter of the first patient and 16 months for having charged 7.500 EUR each to the other 2 patients.

Dr Death | Icke Exposed

[Bayes]

gizmo, I just don't buy the conspiracy theory thing. Are there those who would benefit if a cure was never found? of course, but on balance, when you take into account all the pros and cons, it just doesn't stack up.

Is There Really a Conspiracy  to Suppress Cancer Cures?

[Steve]

It is best to educate yourself before stating opinions.

Time tells all.

[Bayes]

gizmo, I'm not a research scientist working on cancer and I doubt very much whether you are either. The great unwashed public such as us have to rely on what we're told by the experts, don't you agree? It doesn't mean we have to swallow it all uncritically, but even if we don't understand all the technical details, we can still come to conclusions based on a common sense overview, and what we DO know or can infer, taking into account all the available data, not just the bit which happens to confirm our prior opinion. The article I posted above is an example of that.

It took me 3 seconds to find this: nolinks://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaw_Burzynski

The trouble with the internet is that it's all too easy to find support for whatever opinions you have, no matter how crazy they are.  If you're convinced that there's a conspiracy going on, you'll find "evidence" for it. Likewise, if you're a sceptic, you can find evidence against conspiracy. If you're interested in the truth, surely you need to look at the evidence on both sides and weigh it up, ask yourself who has the most to gain by making those particular claims etc?  It's very easy to confirm your prior opinions and prejudices, and it's also easy to disconfirm them. Unfortunately people have a tendency to only seek out confirmation of their beliefs (confirmation bias). It's a very very common cognitive bias.

If you're not interested in the truth, but only want to confirm what you think you know to be true, then nothing or no-one is going to convince you otherwise, and it's a waste of time arguing with you.

[Steve]

Bayes, yes opinions are varied and you can find sites to support any case.

one thing though... The word CONSPIRACY produces a knee jerk reaction, giving images of guys wearing tinfoil on their heads, or fruitcakes with wild theories without any evidence. Then there are people at the other end of the scale who think pharmaceutical companies and politicians were all nice guys that are thinking of us. The truth is in the middle. You can expect a company focused on profit to do what it must to maximize profit.

To think that there arent immoral businessmen that would rather make billions than care for our welfare is a mistake. What is done today is just as immoral as what Hitler did, but he had more of a shock effect because of the brutality. What Hitler did in Germany was... legal.

My point is open your mind and don't be naive.research thoroughly and you'll find realistically some pretty awful things are being done by people in power. Not imagined.

[Bayes]

Steve, I'm not denying that there are real conspiracies, and of course as usual in these matters, the truth is somewhere between the 2 extremes. Personally I believe that there have been cover-ups and genuine conspiracies in fuel technology by companies with vested interests, there is plenty of evidence for that.

So many conspiracy theories are predicated on a fallacy: that if someone benefits from X, they must have caused X. The fact that someone makes money from some set of circumstances (even a LOT of money) isn't in itself, a sufficient reason for thinking that had any hand in making the circumstances what they happen to be; coincidences do happen.

But back to cancer. No offence, but I think you're the one being naive if you think that curing and preventing cancer is just a matter of changing your diet. Swing by your local supermarket, pick up a few veggies and a tin of baking soda, and you're sorted! The thing is, it's very simplistic to think that there is one simple cure. There are 200 different kinds of cancer,  effective treatments exist for some kinds, but not others. And besides, if a one-size-fits-all super cure were to be found by a drug company, they would make billions; it wouldn't matter if the old drugs became obsolete.

Also, it's such a widespread disease that anyone suppressing a treatment is likely to be condemning their family and friends, and maybe themselves, to a premature death. Not only that, but it's highly likely that a cover up would leak out somehow, very few people are that cynical, someone with a conscience would spill the beans.

[Bayes]

Gizmo,

I did watch some of the video.

All I can say is, people have to make their own decisions, and many choose to try alternative treatments if orthodox methods offer no hope. But the fact remains that Burzynski's methods haven't garnered any hard clinical evidence that they're effective. What's more, accusations that the US gov. are suppressing a cure seem a little strange given that:

based on Burzynski's claims about antineoplastons, the US government-funded National Cancer Institute (NCI) spent nearly a million dollars on an early-phase clinical trial of the treatment in the early 1990s. But the early results were not promising and the trial ended in disarray

Hope or false hope? - Cancer Research UK - Science Update blog

It's worth reading the entire article.

[crackers]

He's a quack! If he is not then millions of people will needlessly die. Only time
will tell. But this single thing still bothers me. People testified to congress. Nobody
was prosecuted for falsified statements to congress and he won the day in those
hearings. If he is the quack that everyone makes him out to be then why did he
win?  Why are they going on to stage III trials? Anyway, most believe him to be
a scammer.

[Steve]

Generally if people make extreme statements, they tend to be wrong. I'm glad we agree the truth is in the middle.

I think you're the one being naive if you think that curing and preventing cancer is just a matter of changing your diet

Some people have specific genes that make them more susceptible to diseases like cancer and heart disease. Heart disease is ultimately caused by a poor ability to use vitamin c, which is not actually a vitamin but anyway, the two known species that have heart disease are humans and guinea pigs. Larger doses of vitamin c HELP PREVENT heart disease. Also lysine. It is not a guarantee you wont get heart disease, but it sure as hell directly addresses the problem. There were studies 50 or so years ago that showed massive doses of vitamin c actually reverses heart disease. The plaque buildup in arteries is the bodies reaction to not having enough vitamin c, and the plaque is like the patch-job to repair cracked pipes. Thing is there becomes too much build up. That is heart disease, along with brittle "pipes". Vitamin C is needed for healthy pipes. With enough of it, the plaque isnt needed. So the plaque is a defensive thing, it is not some cholesterol buildup like most people think.

As for cancer, each cell is like an electronic circuit. With the acidity too high, it doesn't function correctly. This leads to cancer, which is cells that dont die and become reborn as a normal cell does. Again increasing alkalinity is not the big end-all cure, but it is a major part. Obviously prevention is better than cure, and if you have a high alkaline high oxygen body, cancer simply will not thrive. But eat fatty foods, smoke, don't exercise etc which all leads to low oxygen levels, cancer is far more likely to grow. Also drink lots of soft drinks and other acidic foods/drinks, and your body will become acidic. Did you know aspartame, the artificial sweetener in soft drinks, is used to cause cancer in lab rats for cancer testing?

In some cultures, cancer and heart disease pretty much doesn't exist. It is the food, water and lifestyle mixed with genetics.

So yes, what you eat and what you do with your body is the primary cause of heart disease and cancer. Again some people are more susceptible to it, but you greatly reduce your risks if you treat your body right. The solution to these major problems are very simple. Do you think there are people out there that dont profit billions from cures not being found?

As for this triuth eventually leaking out, thats like saying "if roulette was beatable, everyone would do it". The truth with this is most people dont want to apply non-mechanical advantage play, and look for a simpler way. And most people dismiss roulette as unbeatable so they dont even try. The people that get past this crap and look for the truth regardless of what they expect to find, tend to fund methods that do work. Same with anything else in life. At the moment, there are more ignorant people around than open-minded people. When the balance changes, that is when the truth will be more widespread. For now, most people believe whatever they are told by the "experts".. many of which just happen to mass produce pills that treat symptoms rather than address the causes of ailments.

[Steve]

FYI dick cheney was the CEO of the company that holds right to aspartame. He was a key decision maker in the release of aspartame. These people that pop in and out of very big business and high politics are the kind of people us "consipiracy theorists" have problems with. It is not conspiracy per se. It is simply what these pricks do. Have a good read about the FDA approved aspartame and tell me health is more important than profit: Aspartame - 50% phenylalanine, 40% aspartic acid, 10% methan... - Care2 News Network

You may as well then tell me the fluroide added to water is all good for us because the government says so. They are all so concerned about our teeth. Problem is fluoride makes teeth brittle. Why not just pickle our bodies with toxins. We can be preserved in death. Lets forget about how it calcifies the pineal gland, which is responsible for essential but overlooked functions

If everyone did their own research, THOROUGH RESEARCH, instead of blindly believing media, you could not be appealed at what is going on, and how stupid and blind most people are. Everyone who sees it at some point once thought we lived in a nice little world where the media, the government, big companies all told us the truth. The facts are we are being lied to, deliberately poisoned, deliberately financially restricted, and brainwashed by media. It is no mistake or tinfoil hate false belief. It is actually happening, and the deeper you dig the worse you see it is. When you see it, you will still barely believe how bad it really is.

Some "conspiracy theorists" are accused of being nutty. What would you do if you found out that key people in our governments are having our water deliberately poisoned..... but nobody will believe you or even bother to find the facts to verify. When you tell people, they just think you're nuts. Again people need to get past the CONSPIRACY word. This stuff really is happening. It is not mere theory. Yes there are dickheads that think crazy stuff without any evidence, and they make people dismiss "conspiracy theories" as quackery. Remember the truth is in the middle.

[Pactole]

I read the book The pH Miracle written by Robert O. Young Ph.D. 
and since then, cancer doesn't scares me anymore...

[Pactole]

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