Throwing some ideas around for new systems.

[Lanky]

Hi John.

Do I take that as an indication of the quality on this board.

Well My Friend thats what we are here for is to improve the quality of help that we can give to eachother.

Feel free to do Your part Mate...We would all appreciate it.

Somebody posts a system, which will lose you money and they get thanked (for sharing)

Yes I thanked Kiddo for sharing with Us what He was doing.
And to tell You the truth if Baccarat was a horse I would be hard pressed to tell the difference from its head to its backside.

I think all systems will lose at some point John.

As for me posting a system, I've posted many, just not here.  Aren't your fingers capable of doing some walking, or would you like it served in a bread basket.

OK this is easy for You change John all You have to do is start posting them here.
We can all learn from You then.

Good point You bring up about about Your Systems & how to find them John that part was helpful.
So now all We have to do is just type in Baccarat Systems by John ?

Its obvious that You can Talk the Walk John.

But its now time for You to step up & have a go Mate.

Lanky.

[kiddo]

RE READ THE TOPIC AGAIN. This is NOT a FIBBO what is your problem? do you honestly think that all I play is FIBBO?  Because unless you post something that makes money I think you are just an ignorant fool posting out of his ass. Oh and by the way the shoe you just posted

PP
PB - bet player here 1 unit win
BP - even event
BB - win 1 unit here
PP - lose 2 units here
BP - even event
PP - lose 4 units here
BB - lose 6 units here
BB - win 4 units here
BP - win 4 units here
PB - even event
BP - even event
BB - win 4 units here

after all said and done this system wins 2 units after your trash shoe you posted. Pretty crappy shoe but still wins. And sure as hell not with the fibbon that you are raving about REREAD THE POST you ignorant brat.

[kiddo]

PPPBBPBBPPBPPPBBBBBPPBBPBB
   WLLLWLLLLWWLWLLWWWLLLLWWL
your biggest bet using my methodology and fibbo progression from my system number 2 would of been 13 units. ohhh noo whoopie for someone of your "Stature" you can surely afford 13 units right? and would of won you 6 units. You have done nothing but criticize why don't you fly up here and we'll go play baccarat. Atleast I'll put my money where my mouth is. Or even better post up 100 shoes from the casino and I'll show you how those shoes would have won.

[lucky_strike]

If any one thinks he or she has a great method, then its up to them to share or not.
If they talk money an say how well they have done, its up to them.

Here you can post a bad or a good strategy.
Its up to the individual to test it or tweak it and find out the truth.

Cheers Lucky Strike

[hlkhoo]

Hi Kiddo,
Thanks for sharing.
Just wanna clarify one point. In your previous posting, you mentioned
    "you win on EVERY other kind of pattern and break even on PP BB PP BB PP BB patterns. Which makes this method VERY powerful"

If I understood your play correctly, you will be betting on the dominant side.
That is, if BB the the next two hands will also be betting BB. If it's PP, then
you will be betting the next 2 hands for PP.
If I'm correct, then the nemesis for this kinda method play will be the 2-2 pattern i.e. BBppBBpp.
So, your statement above is not correct then.

Appreciate your comments. Thanks

Eric

[VICLIMKS]

Well spotted, if some weren't so ignorant, or focused more on what they trying to achieve rather throw insults around, then the pairing in two's can be reduced to losing against a portion of two's and winning against all else, therefore making it better than DBL.  But who am I to make such a stupid suggestion.

Lucky - in that case it's a good job sellers are not allowed on this site, it protects the members from making stupid decisions, such as throwing their money away, alas there are other options.

Excuse me if I run, I'm off to make a few more thousand pounds in the next hour to go on top of the £8500 I won yesterday, courtesy of my local casino.  Obviously some like to read this kind of shit, and it's perfectly fine to gloat in front of those $10 bettors here, so I thought I will oblige.

john........what system r u playing......can u pls.show us?thanks

[Matilda]

John
I looked on GG and couldn't find it, new forum or old one?  Point us all in the right direction.  Would like to check your systems out.
Matilda

[Colin]

John i for 1 would love to find your system .Please tell me and others the date of your post on GG I thank you Colin

[kiddo]

John you posted a shoe and I beat it with BOTH of the systems I posted. Lets see how "great" your system is. Can it beat what I posted?

as for this

If I understood your play correctly, you will be betting on the dominant side.
That is, if BB the the next two hands will also be betting BB. If it's PP, then
you will be betting the next 2 hands for PP.
If I'm correct, then the nemesis for this kinda method play will be the 2-2 pattern i.e. BBppBBpp.
So, your statement above is not correct then.

It is correct; Here is a shoe recently played with this method
BP BP BB BP BP PB BB BP PB PB BB BB PP BP BP PP BP BB PP PB BP PB BP PP BP BP BB PB PB BP PB PB BP PB PP PB PB PP BB
    W   W  W W -   L   W  -  W  L   W  L  -   W  L  -   W  L  W  -   -   -   L  -   W W  -   W  -  -   W  -  -   W   W  W W L

There was a 4 2-2 event that occurred twice
Even flat betting here you would have made +2 units
With the progression you would have made 22 units.

If your up to the challenge John lets see how your "great" system would have done on this shoe. Surely if its so good it would beat 22 units easily. But if your not up to the challenge then just shut your trap because you are nothing more then a liar. Just like lanky said, you can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?

[VICLIMKS]

another update just came back from the casino. bought in for 2000, I left with 11,000. Highest bet? 400 bucks believe it or not. the equivalent of 4 units. And I made this in 2 shoes.

whats units size r u betting  with my friend kiddo?

[VICLIMKS]

<Lets see how "great" your system is.>
Some are like a bunch of cackling school girls, gimme, gimme, prove it, hand it to me on a plate, feed me for no effort on my part.

If I wanted to assist strangers, especially those who attempt to titillate with stories of nearly tripling bankrolls, and posting losing system such as DBL and throw insults.  I would rather share with my fellow gamblers I see at the tables, or I would have posted a full system on GG.  So why do you think I will be goaded into posting on this board?

You can call it hot air and a liar this and that, same as I can spout I've won over £15 grand in the last two weeks, it means absolutely nothing.  Talking about specific monetary amounts is nothing short of crass.

It doesn't matter what I would or would not have made on that shoe, which is a true sign of your naivety.  It doesn't matter how much somebody wins, it is how much somebody doesn't lose which is more significant.  It is being able to repeat that feat over and over, not about I won X amount of units.  You sound like a true amateur with little long term experience.

I walk the walk many times per week.  If I ever feel the urge to prove anything, I will accept invitations to sit next to me at my venue.  Posting on a board to indulge in childish "prove it" contests, I don't do.  So all that leaves you, is a grouping of two column approach and / or DBL with a Fibonacci.

Tread carefully and take it with a pinch of salt.

If you don't like the attitude, obviously you haven't played much.  Casino's have been known to be friendly places when you lose often.  Otherwise they can be hostile, from staff and fellow players.  You have to watch your chips, watch the dealer who are prone to jealously and will speed or slow games to throw you.  Mind games from the pit staff, hassles from security.  If you think they present a lovely environment where everybody is your friend and bends over to help each other, I suggest you step into the real world more often.

john.......why not just post your system here,as for gg no one found your post,y keep argueing when u dun help fellow members....anyway its just the casinos $$$(unless u own a casino),at least kiddo post  a system to help,whether he post a system its workable or not,he tried his best to help us out then just blablabla....as u know nothing in this world is guranteed 100% or else there wun be more more casinos in town.......no heart feelings john but i  just 1 2 comment on y dun both of u work out a system together n kick the casinos ass.goodluck

[lucky_strike]

I find this so boring, why do you want a complete strategy or a system?

If you want to find a way to play baccarat you can start a new post and ask a question.

Like, what is "my ante your ante?" is it the same thing as to use a template.

A question like "how do I use a template?" and "what is it based upon?"

There is many questions you can post or start to explore.

What is clustering?
What is a periodic event?
What is attracting?
What is a strike distribution?
What is a bet selection?

What is correction?
Does it exist in the short term or just for the long run?

What is menigsfull concicdence and does it exist?
How can I find one?

Do I need to win at every step using a progression?

Can I flat betting with 20 units and win 2 units --- 30 to 40 times in a row?

As you see it isnt so difficult, ask questions, explore and make a test.
So why is there so many members here that want everything served on a silver plate?

Cheers Lucky Strike

[Lanky]

Hi Lucky.

Mate this thread was started by Kiddo & its title is.

Throwing some ideas around for new systems.

Now if its for new systems then of course it has to be built from next to nothing.

And yes there will be people that want everything explained to them from the very beginning I would be one of those people as I know nothing about Baccarat.

Just the same as when You asked Me about the Lw Method I explained everything I could to You Mate.

Let the people ask what they want....That way we will get New systems or Ideas that some have never thought of before and that way people can make up their minds if they want to play Roulette or Baccarat or Both.

This Forum was built on Questions & Answers & the sharing of ideas.

Lanky.

[Lanky]

Hey Guys.

Wouldn't that be something.

If John & Kiddo could work together for the benifit of the Forum.

How powerful would that be.......Super Idea VICLIMKS.

Lanky

[lucky_strike]

Lanky:

Let the people ask what they want....That way we will get New systems or Ideas that some have never thought of before and that way people can make up their minds if they want to play Roulette or Baccarat or Both.

I agree totaly and that was exacly my point Lanky.

I know my eng. is bad.

I have sent a personal PM to Kiddo and thank him for sharing, I like him and would like more of that kind of posts.


Cheers Lucky Strike

[lucky_strike]

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