Throwing some ideas around for new systems.

[hlkhoo]

Hi guys,
Take a look at this shoe. It's one of the LIVE shoe I'd recorded in the past and out of curiosty, I decided to try it out using Kiddo's method. As you can see, it didn't perform well and at the end of shoe, you just lost approx. -80 units. And shoe like this one is pretty common.
Consider yourself warned!

Anyway, thanks to Kiddo for sharing and I hope you dont mind. I'm not here to bash anyone's system - I'm just giving out my findings based on your system. It's better to loose on paper rather than got burn in the casino.

Cheers.

[hlkhoo]

Here you go . . .

B   P   P   B   B   P   B   P   B   B   B   B   P   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   B   B   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   P   P   P   P   B   B   B
B   B   B   B   B   P   P   P   P   P   B   B   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   B   B   P   B   B   B   P   P   P   B   B

[cotongo]

For curiosity, I try this shoe with my system. Playing all from start to end with highest bet 3 units, it comes up 18 units. It is very nice shoe for me. It is not fair to show the show with too many doubles to the DBL bet selection because 2,2,2,2 is nemesis. Well each system has a good time and bad time. The matter is the time you get to the shoe. Chao! Dylan

[cotongo]

With conservative negative MM, we can override the nemesis with good bankroll. For ex, your bet selection is FTL, you will lose all the 1st row, but you will win with all streaks. All you need is few streaks here and there to recover your loss at the higher bet, then you come back to the basic bet. I agree with you about MM. You can even use Kiddo pair bet selection combined with stretched D'Alermbert to play. You said you use template bet selection and I am familiar with Wealth Bac system. Do you happen to know this guy and how do you think about his method? Thank buddy. Dylan.

[bigjoe]

Just out of curiosity. Has anyone seen any new system in the last several years. Everything has been  done by now. Things get renamed and rewritten but theres not anything new under the sun. Just our take on it.....GL bj

[Lanky]

John.

I am sorry that there is not many replies or attempts to do that shoe thingy.

OK I will have a go at it for You Mate.

Just tell Me if I have the thing in the correct order.

Line1
BB-PB-PB-BB-BB-PP-BP-PP-BP-BP-BB-BB-PP-PB-PP-BB-PP-BB-PP-BP

Line 2
BB-BP-PB-PP-BB-PP-BB-PB-BP-PB-PB-PB-PP-PP-BP-BB-BB

If thats how its suppose to be set out I will try & do it from what I have learnt so Far from both Kiddo & John.

Just a simple Yes or No will do.

Lanky

[cotongo]

HIi John,
Try to use kiddo bet selection and Alembert with a twist as follows :

    0   w1 L2 w2 w2 0   L2  0  w2  w2 w1 L2 w2 w2 L2 L4 L6 L8   0  w5 w5 0  w4 L8  L10 L12 0 0   0  w7  w7 w6 w6 0 w5  w5
B   P   P   B   B   P   B   P   B   B   B   B   P   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   B   B   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   P   P   P   P   B   B   B
B   B   B   B   B   P   P   P   P   P   B   B   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   B   B   P   B   B   B   P   P   P   B   B

Highest bet 7 units.
Result:  W = 64 units.
           L  =  56 units.
it is not bad for the DBL bet selection encounter many doubles.
How do you think?
Dylan

[JLP]

Perhaps if somebody has time, they could run Kiddo's 2 col' methodology against this 8 deck shoe.

B   P   P   B   B   P   B   P   B   B   B   B   P   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   B   B   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   P   P   P   P   B   B   B
B   B   B   B   B   P   P   P   P   P   B   B   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   P   B   P   B   P   B   P   B   B   P   B   B   B   P   P   P   B   B

Decisions run top to bottom left to right.

This is test but using Kiddo´s System1 following 4 last outcomes (betting on dominant side) and with 1,2,4,8,etc. progression.

B
B
P
B  ----> bet B
------
p
B   +1
B  No bet ---> Now bet B
------
B   +1            +2
------
B   +1            +3
------
B   +1            +4
------
P   -1
P   -2
B   +1            +5
------
P    -   No Bet +5
------
P   +1            +6
------
P   +1            +7
------
B   -1
P   +1            +8
------
B   -1
P   +1            +9
------
B   -    No bet +9
------
B   -    No bet +9
------
B   +1            +10
------
B   +1            +11
------
P   -1
P   -2
P   -4
B   +1            +12
------
P   +1            +13
------
P   +1            +14
------
B   -1
B   -2
P   +1            +15
------
P   -  No bet   +15
------
B   -  No bet   +15
------
B   -  No bet   +15
------
P  -  No bet   +15
------
P  -  No bet   +15
------
B   -  No bet   +15
------
P   -  No bet   +15
------
B  -1
B  -2
B  -4
P  +1             +16
------
P  -1
B  +1             +17
------
P   -   No bet  +17
------
P  +1             +18
------
B  -1
B  -2
P  +1             +19
------
P  -   No bet   +19
------
B  -   No bet   +19
------
B  -   No bet   +19
------
P  -   No bet   +19
------
B  -   No bet   +19
------
B  +1             +20
------
P  -1
P  -2
B  +1             +21
------
P  -   No bet   +21
------
P  +1             +22
------
P  +1             +23
------
B  -1
P  +1             +24
------
P  +1             +25
------
P  +1             +26
------
P  +1             +27

Profit = 27 chips

Cheers,
JLP.-

[JLP]

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