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Someone gave me an account to play!! Seriously!

Started by TwoCatSam, September 27, 2008, 10:21:52 AM

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TwoCatSam

...sent me the user name and password and all.  Has money in it and to to the testing I am going to do, I'll have to tell you how much.  166  Not sure if it's Euro, pounds or dollars.  Too tired last night to think

I consider this the Forum's test money.  Since I will be playing RNG exclusively and have all the time I need to bet, I will simultaneously play the 4Selecta, my chicco/murph and the G.U.T.  Before I start the test, I will lay out the rules and stick to them religiously.  Naturally there will be a daily posting to the testing area.

This person says it's an honest RNG.  I sincerely hope so as I may/may not be able to open my own account play for real with my money.  Not even sure if they accept Americans.

I will keep record of all spins and post them.  I will work this as long as the money lasts or until it gets so big he wants the account back.  I will not change the password so he can withdraw anytime he wants.

Again, I am honored!

Thanks, )(&&^&%(_(&^&

Sam
I will not disclose this person's name unless he wants me to.  I think he should be publicly praised for his trust and for honoring me with such an act.

He'll read this.  It's up to him.




xman1970

Very kind gesture by the person in question..... :o :o

good luck to you both..... 8)

hoper35


JHM

(online) Casino owners are keeping an eye on this forum too offcourse. They give you a account and money to 'test' their RNG ;)

TwoCatSam

Jur

This was a forum member who will remain anonymous unless he chooses to identify himself.  It's real money, not play money.

Mr Chips

Yes, it will be confusing.  However, the benefactor wants me to test the RNG to see if I feel it is honest.  By using three systems with a pretty darn good track record, I can tell if the casino is beating me unfairly---

Since this is RNG, I will have all the time necessary to study the systems in question and make the bets.  I will devote one computer exclusively to this test so if I have to stop for some reason during a session, I can just put it all to sleep and come back later.

I am working now to created the sheets necessary to record all bets and win/loss records.

Sam

Herb

Quotethe benefactor wants me to test the RNG to see if I feel it is honest.  By using three systems with a pretty darn good track record, I can tell if the casino is beating me unfairly---


Please don't take this the wrong way, but this is nonsense.  You can't judge the fitness of the RNG by playing three systems.  For starters, not one of those systems will perform any better than random betting would in the long run.   Secondly, RNGs require several thousands of trials to be adequately tested.  Something tells me that you're only going to be playing for about one or two hundred spins.

You simply don't test RNGs using these methods.  There are far better methods for testing the fitness of the RNGs.  There are websites where you can run the RNG through a battery of legitimate tests.

For more information, search Google: Testing RNGs.

Good Luck.

-Herb

Kelly

It would take some patience. Lets say he bets 6 numbers.

If Ray is out of pure luck is having a positive 3 SD he would be positive up to ~ 60.000 spins (placed bets). If he should stay positive after 60.000 spins it would require + 3.1 .........4........5........6  etc.  SD as the spin sample increases. Not very likely. The odds that he is positive after 10.000 spins arent very likely either.

I wouldn`t say it is the easyiest way to test a system.

Herb

QuoteIf anything is "nonsense" it's your " not one of those systems will perform any better than random betting would in the long run". Why haven't you challenged the results that I have produced in the 4Selecta thread?

  The people in the thread appeared as though they were having some harmless fun, so I didn't want to come in just to burst the bubble.  Besides, I've already told you in the past that the system isn't mathematically sound. 


QuoteI deal in facts not theoretical maths fiction.

No you don't. 

QuoteWhat we are interested in is whether the three systems can make a profit using the particular RNG concerned.

Honestly, all three of them are destined to fail.   However, along the way you might have some fun testing them.

Good Luck. :)

-Herb

Herb

We don't speak the same language.  It's not possible for me to effectively demonstrate it to you.  I would use mathematics. You, however, would argue that the laws of physics and math don't apply to you.  I could also instantly simulate what you do, but you would likely argue that I had somehow fudged the results.

You seem quite sure of the system, so let's try this:

Why don't you put up some money, and demonstrate how effective your system is by playing 10k spins on Dublinbet?
This would enable everyone to witness the effectiveness of the system.  With a little luck, you might even make a little money.
What do you think?  Care to give it a try?

-Herb

Herb

Mr. Chips,

I've provided the proof in the past.  I see no reason to continue this argument. 

Shorty


Jakkalsdraai


TwoCatSam


metalrat


TwoCatSam

Thank you, Mr. rat!

Folks and people, friends and neighbors..........


I am going to make a screen capture movie of every last bet I make.  Sheets will be posted whereby anyone can check me out.  As winkel says, this will be as clinical as I know how to make it.

The films will be entitled Session 1, Session 2 and so on.....

Should I have to stop a session, I cannot pause the recorder, so I will have Session 1.1 and Session 1.2 and so on.....  If you see a period, you know the session was not complete and to look for another.

I don't expect anyone to view all these; they are made so that I may review my bets.  It's just if anyone wants to, they will be there.

Sam

TwoCatSam

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