Why is turbo missing?

[See_Jerek]

I have some questions with regards to turbo's system but it seems he is not responding to me PMs and emails and for goodness sake he has a section here and not responding to the messages at all.

Is he very busy with systems on hand?

Or he simply doesn't give a hoot about his systems and his section here

Moderators,do you think it is right for turbo to have a section here but remain uncontactable for so long as if he has evaporated into the air?

[TwoCatSam]

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We just have no way of knowing what's in this fellows life right now.  What would it accomplish to take down his section?  Some day he may come back and say something.  Frankly, I doubt it.  But he may.

Sam

[VLSroulette]

Hi mates, genius or not, I have a big deal of respect towards turbo.

Actually the gist of this section was to have a place to archive and discuss each one of his system with its own thread, having him around is a plus.

I know he is a busy man and he has expressed his desire of having a rest from posting, but I think his section must stay for the sake of the studying and tweaking of his systems.

[xman1970]

Fair comment VLS [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[See_Jerek]

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We just have no way of knowing what's in this fellows life right now.  What would it accomplish to take down his section?  Some day he may come back and say something.  Frankly, I doubt it.  But he may.

Sam

Sam let's keep our fingers cross and hope he does come back 

[See_Jerek]

Hi mates, genius or not, I have a big deal of respect towards turbo.

Actually the gist of this section was to have a place to archive and discuss each one of his system with its own thread, having him around is a plus.

I know he is a busy man and he has expressed his desire of having a rest from posting, but I think his section must stay for the sake of the studying and tweaking of his systems.

I do agree that keeping his section for the studying of his system is a plus point but if someone misunderstand anything at all with regards to his systems and start to play for real then i smell trouble.

[Shorty]

Don't play a system that you don't fully understand.

[See_Jerek]

Don't play a system that you don't fully understand.

Hello shorty,

thank you for your comments,that is the reason why turbo is needed in his section to guide and coach people on his systems

[TwoCatSam]

Anyone think of this........??

Maybe he just doesn't want to face the Inquisition the way winkel and Mr Chips have!

Sam

[See_Jerek]

Anyone think of this........??

Maybe he just doesn't want to face the Inquisition the way winkel and Mr Chips have!

Sam

Well if you have nothing to hide and your methods do work,what's there to face?Yes Winkel and Mr Chips do face nonsense from others but not forgetting those who tried their methods and know they do work are always there to back them when face with a difficult person.

[TwoCatSam]

See

I see your point! 

If I had a good money-making system and I tried to explain it and had all the flak thrown at me that they get thrown at them---I'd work by email with only the ones who wanted to learn!  It's just as easy to type an email to ten people as one, so why post publicly and endure the harassment?

When I'm just making a comment I can take all they dish out, but If I were giving something of value away--something I had made money with for years--I'd just fold my tent when the arrows started flying.

As I told Victor once, the people who harassed him daily were probably using his methods to make money and just wouldn't give him the credit for it.  Gamlet and /Compa are gone because of just this.  Every person we lose due to disrespect has a tiny bit of knowledge they take with them.  We should think of that daily.  If everyone takes their piece of the jig-saw puzzle and leaves, we have scant little to work with!

Sam

[See_Jerek]

See

I see your point! 

If I had a good money-making system and I tried to explain it and had all the flak thrown at me that they get thrown at them---I'd work by email with only the ones who wanted to learn!  It's just as easy to type an email to ten people as one, so why post publicly and endure the harassment?

When I'm just making a comment I can take all they dish out, but If I were giving something of value away--something I had made money with for years--I'd just fold my tent when the arrows started flying.

As I told Victor once, the people who harassed him daily were probably using his methods to make money and just wouldn't give him the credit for it.  Gamlet and /Compa are gone because of just this.  Every person we lose due to disrespect has a tiny bit of knowledge they take with them.  We should think of that daily.  If everyone takes their piece of the jig-saw puzzle and leaves, we have scant little to work with!

Sam

Well Sam,I guess there is nothing much you and I could do but I hope we have a better tomorrow in this place always.Like I said,credit must be given to those who are kind enough to at least show the way for better and more profitable roulette play but that is playing at your own risk if you lose due to lack of experience then take it like a man.Lanky thought me the Lw and hey I thought I was good enough to play with real money and I lose 500 units playing with real money,I didn't blame him did I? it is a very good method and I am just not good enough to play real money.Flamers and trouble makers always spoil the show,isn't it sam?

Blame yourself for your own loss not others and when people teach your stuff don't blame them when it fails.

[ryan08]

i dont blame the guy for taking time out from the forum, it can get tiresome posting all the time, especially if there are loads of different questions to be answered, posts can take alot of time to write sometimes, also it is not always correct to depend on the teacher, the teacher can only guide, it is up to the pupil to master it

[Talesman]

..... also it is not always correct to depend on the teacher, the teacher can only guide, it is up to the pupil to master it

Well said, ryan08.

Countless times across numerous forums I have visited or participated in over the years I have seen the posts of dozens of detractor's of the folks who posted excellent plans or potentially excellent plans.  In the end it was the detractors, the ones who said it wouldn't or couldn't work, who:

1. never played the plan.

2. if they did play, they completely screwed it up by not following the plan - hence a loss.

3. they failed to play / test against a real wheel or real wheel data.

and the list goes on. 

As to Turbo - I have several major thoughts about that young man.  Suffice to say that for a long time he was burning the candle at both ends and life probably caught up with him.  A bit of burn out would be completely understandable.   Plus he had a seriously ill child which I am sure put crushing pressure on him as well.  I hope all is well at his home and he and his family are doing ok.

[Talesman]

It has also occurred to me that he may have taken a large sum of money to an AC casino and blew it all on a personal plan which, of course, would cause doldrums, anxiety and the need to rethink everything.

It is one thing to beat an RNG and quite another a real wheel.  Turbo and I have gone round and round on that point since we first encountered each other.  That in no way diminishes his zeal/zest to craft a plan that will work, which I admire.

No one can really "beat" the wheel (esp. a 00 wheel we Americans are faced with). The best we can hope for is a few good wins which puts us in profit every time we play a session.  I say take the money and run when that happens.

In any case, I ferverently hope that his absence is not due to ill health of either himself or of his family.

[Talesman]

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