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Show Me Something New, Please
October 25, 2008, 02:14:52 AM
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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 25, 2008, 04:56:51 AM
Hi, kimo

Nice to see you here again  ;)


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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 25, 2008, 05:38:51 PM
G'day Kimo

Check out winkles GUT system Kimo, it is the most original idea (apart from yours) I have seen for a long time!

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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 25, 2008, 09:24:18 PM
Bit harsh rev, nobody should stop trying to learn. How much have you studied Kimo's systems???
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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 04:52:35 AM
............... you have " The Holy grail of Roulette " ?? ???








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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 02:04:13 PM
In my humble opinion, there are PERSONAL holy grails, this means, systems which beat the personal set of actuals a certain player will experience on his whole lifetime.

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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 02:28:48 PM
Hello Kimo Li,



Indeed it has been an long time since we traded words. I think our trade on words was not so much if I can remember well.


You are totaly right if you say you do not want to share it with the public. Why should you...... 


But I did not ask for it. I only found it remarkable that you said it that way.....



Mr. Chips, somehow you have an point here. But if you have an system that keeps winning or beating roulette in the long- short term without nobody knowing one can also conclude it has the Holy grail without sharing it with others.....



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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 04:40:23 PM
Mr. Chips, off course if someone says he has the holy grail it can be an balloon full of hot air or perhaps it is the holy grail of roulette. We can not determine this, only when it is shared. But it does not mean that it does not exist because it was not shared with others........





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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 04:57:47 PM
In my humble opinion, there are PERSONAL holy grails, this means, systems which beat the personal set of actuals a certain player will experience on his whole lifetime.

Victor

I have to agree with Victor here, this would explain why some systems here have different results for different people.

Just my 2c's
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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 04:59:59 PM
........ thats their problem if they fool themselfs....... or like to believe so..... One can believe so and it ain't so or one tests it himself at the casino and it is so..... or not....... or shares it and it ain't or shares it and it is so........





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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 08:31:10 PM
With all respect, Kimo Li, it sounds like you're bragging about having a HG to try and sell more copies of your books. But don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a bit of self-publicity. You've got me curious for one! Let me ask a quick question, are your books based around visual ballistics or is it more "system" based (or a mixture of both), or is it something else entirely different? I know you're probably tell me that I'll have to buy the book find out, but I thought I'd ask just the same.

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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 09:15:00 PM

Hi Kimo,

Welcome back - I've just recently returned to the forums myself after a very long break. There is no doubt that you are an innovator, motivator, and your books have inspired some very exciting research and new developments.

Chicken dinner -  Kimo's book was posted here on this forum last year and freely available to anyone interested at the time. I don't know if it is still a live post or not. Also as a matter of useful information, I ran a charity competition last Christmas on the other forum - Kimo very generously contributed all the prizes. The runaway winner was Holyman, he led from start to finish using plays created and inspired from his understanding of Kimo's book. What captured everyone's attention was that Holyman selected just 3 numbers for each play and was successful in 5 out of 6 rounds of 12 spins. After the competition he was challenged by Bobbybobby to a further friendly challenge over a longer period of play and his profitability was equally impressive using the same method.

Kimo has mastered roulete and he is one of the true gentlemen of this world.




                                                         Best regards

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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 26, 2008, 11:00:35 PM
Ordered your book, Kimo.  Looking forward to reading it.

Ron. :)
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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 27, 2008, 08:13:44 AM
At a parallel universe, not far from our own:

YES! I have *THE* system...

Now I only need my personal numbers to match that system for good. C'mon 19, make daddy happy...



Morality: The best system in the world is useless if your own experienced numbers don't match, hence why not doing it backwards? Use your personal numbers and match the system based on that  ;)

This is why some spanish pro's don't use a system, they use strategies based on an Arsenal of systems (i.e. Manrique).

Also, our fellow friend Goodhand elaborates on the necessity of changing systems on a regular basis, as they too have a "useful lifetime" past which if the player continues using them, losses are inevitable.

We aren't inmortals anyway; we won't be betting forever, if systems usually win at the beginning and then "die" in the minus, then choose to quit using them before they give it all back!, that's quite a phylosophy to shallow, but it is used by some already: averaging more used systems in the plus than those which died at the beginning in the minus.

Sort of frequent vs infrequent events. Systems beginning in the plus being the frequent event vs systems getting the bad run at the very start. Like Manucher said to me: We have to see how much the system wins when it wins and how much the system loses when it loses; that's the final average, what really counts.

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Re: Show Me Something New, Please
October 27, 2008, 10:00:49 AM
This isn't a plug for Kimo's book, but IMO it's very good value for anyone interested in roulette (I have the Euro wheel version). There's an awful lot of work involved in memorising the global pies, so it's not for the lazy or casual player. Kimo isn't explicit about this, but my understanding, considering the emphasis on "roulette ball movement", is that the "system" is an innovative method of dealer signature.