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Question for GPM
December 03, 2008, 10:05:58 PM
Hi Kimo,

Quick questions for your GPM:

what is the reason that you split the pie into six slices ?

why did not you include 0 in 4 an 7?

also, how to predict the pattern of the next spin, nuke, hem I,II or etc

looking forward to talking to you..

cheers
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Re: Question for GPM
December 04, 2008, 01:27:06 PM
I think you have too look for patterns.Like observe for 20 spins and then make your move.Honestly I think kimo li`s system is only based on dealer signature which is a fallacy.Nothing more. Honestly, I wished it there was more,but there isn`t.

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Re: Question for GPM
December 04, 2008, 04:21:45 PM
I think you have too look for patterns.Like observe for 20 spins and then make your move.Honestly I think kimo li`s system is only based on dealer signature which is a fallacy.Nothing more. Honestly, I wished it there was more,but there isn`t.

Aleister, is there any reason that you believe dealer signature is a fallacy approach?

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Re: Question for GPM
December 04, 2008, 10:41:07 PM
You only think it's a fallacy because you don't know enough about it.
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Re: Question for GPM
December 04, 2008, 11:25:36 PM
That`s not the point. We are talking about kimo li`s "teachings". What I understand is this: you memorize the numbers of the wheel in order to bet quickly should you spot "a pattern".
@shorty..cut it buddy..I have spent MANY hours studying it. The conclusion was: it was all in my head..I wanted to see patterns. If you knew a little about how the mind works (I`m a psychology teacher), you`d know that the mind is trained to see patterns,to find a logic,a beginning and end, it is trained to try to transform what it cannot understand into something familiar.

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Re: Question for GPM
December 04, 2008, 11:46:48 PM
Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. I play dealer signature whenever I play roulette seriously, and yes it works. More than 50% of the time I hit on the first spin, with a 5 number sector. I'm sure you think Visual Ballistics and Bias tables are all fallacies too. [smiley=grin.gif]
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Re: Question for GPM
December 05, 2008, 12:25:22 AM
Personally I believe in roulette it can be both.

For those betting hardcore probability the dealer has absolutely no influence on the game, for those already using dealer signature to win, then it is as real as the law of series of probabilities.

Remember guys, what we need is healthy debate on both points and let the readers be the judges! :)

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Re: Question for GPM
December 05, 2008, 03:58:36 AM
That`s not the point. We are talking about kimo li`s "teachings". What I understand is this: you memorize the numbers of the wheel in order to bet quickly should you spot "a pattern".
@shorty..cut it buddy..I have spent MANY hours studying it. The conclusion was: it was all in my head..I wanted to see patterns. If you knew a little about how the mind works (I`m a psychology teacher), you`d know that the mind is trained to see patterns,to find a logic,a beginning and end, it is trained to try to transform what it cannot understand into something familiar.
hey Aleister

really want to know how  your mind transform---Kimo's theory --> dealer signature-->fallacy;  ??? ???

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Re: Question for GPM
December 05, 2008, 10:27:53 AM
I realized dealer`s signature is a fallacy when I studied really carefully. That`s a story unto it`s own.
From what I understand,Kimo Li`s book is about dealer`s signature therefore Kimo Li`s "teachings" are a fallacy. The spin of the ball creates many geometric shapes not just,star shape or nuke shape or whatever he says. Don`t forget,one of the wisest men in history namely Pythagoras who made such great discoveries and even said that life is governed by numbers and that numerology and astronomy can predict events,who says that the motion of the atom is the same as the motion of the stars or the events in one`s life FELL  on his back when he learned that his precious numbers are minuscule to the reality of numbers. He thought only natural numbers exist from 0 to infinite. But natural numbers are infinite smaller than REAL numbers. So,go figure. Even one of the wisest man on earth was delusional.

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Re: Question for GPM
December 05, 2008, 11:23:44 AM
I realized dealer`s signature is a fallacy when I studied really carefully. That`s a story unto it`s own.
From what I understand,Kimo Li`s book is about dealer`s signature therefore Kimo Li`s "teachings" are a fallacy. The spin of the ball creates many geometric shapes not just,star shape or nuke shape or whatever he says. Don`t forget,one of the wisest men in history namely Pythagoras who made such great discoveries and even said that life is governed by numbers and that numerology and astronomy can predict events,who says that the motion of the atom is the same as the motion of the stars or the events in one`s life FELL  on his back when he learned that his precious numbers are minuscule to the reality of numbers. He thought only natural numbers exist from 0 to infinite. But natural numbers are infinite smaller than REAL numbers. So,go figure. Even one of the wisest man on earth was delusional.

I have problem with betting probability as I have seen more 20 spins of red and 3rd dozen in real roulette.  Those were the evens that actually ruin my bankroll..the reason was I believe the law of average, what is the probability of 20 consecutive  spins of 3rd dozen??.
 
Everything happened for a reason. you believe that realized dealer`s signature is a fallacy. But Study is not enough to prove anything except real experience. Share your story, dude..
 

 

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Re: Question for GPM
December 05, 2008, 11:34:28 AM
All.......

I feel aleister is right about one thing.

There was a time when the Church preached that tiny angels were pushing the stars around.  The stars moved--so they thought--so there had to be a cause.  It had to be tiny angels.  This is man creating a reason when he does not know the true reason.

I don't know anything yet and may never, but I feel the weird movements of the ball are attributed to the dealer because we simply don't know why the numbers come as they do.  With my own eyes I've seen "hot" numbers survive a dealer change and stay hot.  I've see one dealer throw sectors and another come along and throw exactly the same ones, or even complete the one already started.

When you play the G.U.T as much as I do, you have lots of time to watch the wheel.

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Re: Question for GPM
December 05, 2008, 12:08:54 PM
I believe the challenge for betting on the  dealer`s signature is the change of it's signature

so many things could affect the movement and the landing of the ball: the rate of spin of the wheel, the rate of deceleration of the wheel, the speed of the ball at the start of the drop, the starting number at the beginning of the spin and etc.

one problem with Kimo's method is that there are too many patterns and the pattern will change frequently..

my comment is to reduce the number of slices, which make a pattern more predictable and also bigger chance to win..

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Re: Question for GPM
December 05, 2008, 10:11:33 PM
PH quote "one problem with Kimo's method is that there are too many patterns..."
I believe that Kimo addresses this in his book.  I'm not quoting him, but using my memory of what I read - he wrote that no one has master all the GPM's (I think he excluded himself), but you need to develop your own niche. 

Some food for thought (or not) for the disbelievers of dealer signature -
Does it really matter if the ball is landing in, for say, bow ties due to the croups signature, luck, or "just because"?   If you're able to find a trend either with the wheel or perhaps the table layout, play it and win.  RP

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Re: Question for GPM
December 06, 2008, 02:44:40 AM
Maybe sometimes it is more of a "wheel" signature than a "dealer" signature?

- or even a room signature? 

One of my trips to my favourite casino, I watched a guy rush up to my table and put some chips down on a single number and win.  Someone asked him why he did that and he pointed down at the other two wheels in the same row.  They had just turned up the same number.



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Re: Question for GPM
December 06, 2008, 03:46:34 PM
Hmm..wheel signature..even if it`s in the fairies realm,it could be more feasible than dealer signature.