## The Gator's use of Ronjo's 3 Group Method

Started by Wally Gator, January 04, 2009, 01:05:01 AM

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#### Ronjo

Quote from: Wally Gator on January 12, 2009, 12:50:43 AM
Hi Ronjo,

OK, I think I've got it now. &nbsp;Sorry for the confusion. &nbsp;Here are a few more questions:

1. &nbsp;We call 3 more spins whenever a single color appears in the previous 3 spins, right?
&nbsp; &nbsp;
Correct, see samples below. &nbsp;

What do we do when there is a 0 or 00 involved in the 3 spins?

I will illustrate a few samples below.

Here's the table and after that I posted the next 9 spins because there are alot of 0's involved. &nbsp;Perhaps you can use it to explain how that's played. &nbsp;I very much like the idea that this is being played with flat bets. &nbsp;Thanks.

[table=,]
Action,,,Number,,,Loss,,,Win,,,Running Total,,,Bank Balance,,,Remarks
Call,,,20,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Looking for Red repeat in 6 spins play begins on spin 3
Call,,,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Call,,,9,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Play Red,,,24,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,988,,,
Play Red,,,19,,,-12,,,+36,,,+12,,,1012,,,
Call,,,10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Play Blue,,,15,,,-12,,,+36,,,+36,,,1048
Call,,,15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Call,,,24,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[/table]

Next 9 spins (same dealer)

0
6
12
0
33
6
00
18
0

Sample 1

When there is a hit in the three different colours we bet on the first colour hit.

Sample 2

If you have two hits in one colour that is still playable with the first spin.

Sample 3

If you have three hits in one colour its not playable,run another three spins and play the first spin.

Sample 4 with the zero's.

We ignore the zero,s the reason is that they would cover two colours at the same time being that they cover the two end columns.and we have a win in number 6 now we need another two numbers to go with number 18.

Regards,
Ronjo.

#### Wally Gator

Hi Ronjo,

OK, Got it.  Here's the questions for today...

1.  When you say we need 2 numbers to go with 18, shouldn't that be just 1 more number, as 6 is one of the 3 numbers?  Please see spin #15.

2.  I played this out a bit till 50 spins.  Can you kindly look at it and make corrections/comments on if it's being played correctly?

3.  Are there stop/loss points or do you believe this could go on and on?  You will notice from spins 26-31 there is a 2 session drawdown, but it recovers nicely.  Has your experience been that this is the case more than not?

Here's the table.  I've added Spin #s to columns so it's easier for us to reference.

[table=,]
Spin,,,Action,,,Number,,,Loss,,,Win,,,Running Total,,,Bank Balance,,,Remarks
1,,,Call,,,20,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Trigger is 20-Red Group-play begins on spin 4
2,,,Call,,,3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
3,,,Call,,,9,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
4,,,Play Red,,,24,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,988,,,Trigger is 24- Blue Group- play begins on spin 7
5,,,Play Red,,,19,,,-12,,,+36,,,+12,,,1012,,,
6,,,Call,,,10,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
7,,,Play Blue,,,15,,,-12,,,+36,,,+36,,,1048,,,Trigger is 15- Blue- play begins on spin 10
8,,,Call,,,15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
9,,,Call,,,24,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
10,,,Play Blue,,,0,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1036,,,Ignore 0- trigger is next number
11,,,Play Blue,,,6,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1024,,,Trigger is 6- Green- play begins on spin 14
12,,,Play Blue,,,12,,,-12,,,+36,,,0,,,1048,,,
13,,,Call,,,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ignore 0- Call to get 3rd number
14,,,Call,,,33,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Play now begins on spin 15
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
15,,,Play Green,,,6,,,-12,,,+36,,,+24,,,1072,,,Trigger is 6- Green- play beings on spin 18
16,,,Call,,,00,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ignore 00- Call to get 2nd number
17,,,Call,,,18,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
18,,,Call,,,0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ignore 0- Call to get 3rd number
19,,,Call,,,12,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
20,,,Play Green,,,32,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1060,,,Trigger is 32-Red- play begins on spin 23
21,,,Play Green,,,22,,,-12,,,+36,,,+12,,,1084,,,Dealer Change
22,,,Call,,,19,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
23,,,Play Red,,,16,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1072,,,Trigger is 16-Blue- play begins on spin 26
24,,,Play Red,,,11,,,-12,,,0,,,-24,,,1060,,,
25,,,Play Red,,,36,,,-12,,,+36,,,0,,,1084,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
26,,,Play Blue,,,22,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1072,,,Trigger is 22-Green- play beings on spin 29
27,,,Play Blue,,,1,,,-12,,,0,,,-24,,,1060,,,
28,,,Play Blue,,,6,,,-12,,,0,,,-36,,,1048,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
29,,,Play Green,,,16,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1036,,,Trigger is 16-Blue- play begins on spin 32
30,,,Play Green,,,14,,,-12,,,0,,,-24,,,1024,,,
31,,,Play Green,,,19,,,-12,,,0,,,-36,,,1012,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
32,,,Play Blue,,,30,,,-12,,,+36,,,+24,,,1036,,,Trigger is 30-Blue- play begins on spin35
33,,,Call,,,23,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
34,,,Call,,,26,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
35,,,Play Blue,,,14,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1024,,,Trigger is 14-Red- play begins on spin 38
36,,,Play Blue,,,12,,,-12,,,+36,,,+12,,,1048,,,
37,,,Call,,,13,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
38,,,Play Red,,,22,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1036,,,Trigger is 22-Green- play begins on spin 41
39,,,Play Red,,,31,,,-12,,,+36,,,+12,,,1060,,,
40,,,Call,,,28,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
41,,,Play Green,,,8,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1048,,,Trigger is 8-Blue- play begins on spin 44
42,,,Play Green,,,20,,,-12,,,0,,,-24,,,1036,,,
43,,,Play Green,,,28,,,-12,,,+36,,,0,,,1060,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
44,,,Play Blue,,,21,,,-12,,,0,,,-12,,,1048,,,Trigger is 21-Green- play begins on spin 47
45,,,Play Blue,,,3,,,-12,,,+36,,,+12,,,1072,,,
46,,,Call,,,22,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
47,,,Play Green,,,34,,,-12,,,+36,,,+24,,,1096,,,Trigger is 34-Green- play begins on spin 50
48,,,Call,,,11,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
49,,,Call,,,15,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
50,,,Play Green,,,25,,,-12,,,+36,,,+24,,,1120,,,Trigger is 25-Green- play begins on spin 53
51,,,Call,,,33,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
52,,,Call,,,24,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End of Session
[/table]

#### Wally Gator

Should anyone be keeping track of this, please note not to confuse the "Running Total" with the "Bank Balance".  The Running Total is the session total, NOT the Running Total for the entire series of spins.  If you take the Bank Balance at the end of a session and combine it with the next sessions Running Total you will have the new Bank Balance.  Make sense?

#### kompressor

i like this test based on 00 wheels....i got a touchbet in my casino...sit down and enjoy 1 spin per minute...that's cool

#### Diarmaid

Just ran a 300 spin test. Very impressive especially since its flatbetting.

High= +264
Low=  -24
End=  +264

Here is the spreadsheet, could you see if im doing it correctly.

Regards
Diarmaid

#### Phishalot

Is this same method fro Lanky's thread? or New. The groups seem differant.

At the end of a series can we use the last 3 #s for the next pick?

Thanks Wally and Ronjo for doing this it is a real help. Love the charts.

#### Ronjo

Quote from: Wally Gator on January 12, 2009, 12:30:01 PM
Hi Ronjo,

OK, Got it. &nbsp;Here's the questions for today...

1. &nbsp;When you say we need 2 numbers to go with 18, shouldn't that be just 1 more number, as 6 is one of the 3 numbers? &nbsp;Please see spin #15.

Remember to always run two spins after the chozen group,yes 6 Green is correct but let two numbers run and then flat bet for three spins if losing and stop on a win.

2. &nbsp;I played this out a bit till 50 spins. &nbsp;Can you kindly look at it and make corrections/comments on if it's being played correctly?

Yes you are playing correctly.

3. &nbsp;Are there stop/loss points or do you believe this could go on and on? &nbsp;You will notice from spins 26-31 there is a 2 session drawdown, but it recovers nicely. &nbsp;Has your experience been that this is the case more than not?

Yes this does recover very nicley,and its been in my experience that if using high value units its quite easy to win 4-5 sessions and walk away with profit in most cases.

Wally here is some play I did with a single 0 its the same principle as using the 00.

Wally I wont be posting for a few weeks as I am going to be busy working with Steve on his challenge over at RR,when I have completed the challenge I will show the other method with groups and also dealer signature.

In the mean time try and see how far you can get with what you have learnt.
Bear in mind you will get a session from hell from time to time but I am sure you know not to get caught chasing a fallen piano.

Regards,
Ronjo.

#### Ronjo

Quote from: Diarmaid on January 12, 2009, 03:34:16 PM
Just ran a 300 spin test. Very impressive especially since its flatbetting.

High= +264
Low= &nbsp;-24
End= &nbsp;+264

Here is the spreadsheet, could you see if im doing it correctly.

Regards
Diarmaid

Hi Dairmaid,
Remember to stop on a win you are playing all three spins, only play the three spins if you are losing.
Look at spin 24 you had three Reds, and you picked Red as your group.Spin 26 was blue that should have been your group.

Regards,
Ronjo.

#### Ronjo

Quote from: Phishalot on January 12, 2009, 03:35:09 PM
Is this same method fro Lanky's thread? or New. The groups seem differant.

At the end of a series can we use the last 3 #s for the next pick?

Thanks Wally and Ronjo for doing this it is a real help. Love the charts.

Hi Phishalot,
The approach and groups are completely different.And glad to help.

Regards,
Ronjo.

#### Wally Gator

Thanks Ronjo,

If you can please clarify the following:

1.  If you are down after 3 spins, it appears from the samples you posted that you continue to play until a hit.  Is that right?  How many do you chase?

Thanks again, and I understand you not being able to post for a bit.

Best, Wally

#### kompressor

hey wally

any bankroll's update playing 00 wheels

still at 1120 ??

#### Diarmaid

Quote from: Ronjo on January 14, 2009, 01:25:58 AM
Hi Dairmaid,
Remember to stop on a win you are playing all three spins, only play the three spins if you are losing.
Look at spin 24 you had three Reds, and you picked Red as your group.Spin 26 was blue that should have been your group.

Regards,
Ronjo.

I am stopping on a win but yes I made a mistake on spin 24 yes.

I done more tests and it pretty much tanked on me.

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