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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 12:10:52 AM
These are his numbers:

1-9, 4-12, 7-15, 10-18, 13-21, 16-24, 19-27, 22-30, 25-33,
28-36.

Each set contains nine numbers. 

Now here is his chart:

/19  D18    /11  D34  /23  D11  /24  D19  /9  /32  D10  /4  D5  D7  D9 .................. and so on
/12           /31         /32                      /14 /10
/18                        /21                      /34
/24                        /13                      /6
/14                                                  /22
/19                                                  /0
                                                      /36
                                                      /9
                                                      /14
                                                      /21

The first number in his trot is 19 followed by 12, 18,24,14 and 19.  This forms the first vertical column.  Now look at D18.  It is in the same group as the 19, so it goes on a horizontal row.  The next number is 11 which does not go with 18, so it gets no "D" but is the first number of a new grouping.  The next number to come is 31 which is not part of the 11 group, so it begins a vertical column again.  Then comes 34 which is a part of the 31 group so it gets a "D".

Notice how every "D" number is in the same group as the last number in the column just before it or the "D" number before it?  I can see how this would eventually paint a picture of repeats vs non-repeats.  I will next work a trot of numbers to see if I have it right.

Sam
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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 12:21:19 AM
These are his numbers:

1-9, 4-12, 7-15, 10-18, 13-21, 16-24, 19-27, 22-30, 25-33,
28-36.

Each set contains nine numbers. 


Yes This is correct.

For betting purposes i use 2 extra numbers. One on each side of the number that just hit. Total 11 numbers.

Please go on master  sam  ;)


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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 12:22:05 AM
30
 16
 35
 12
 4
 14
 2
 11
 4
 32
 13
 9
 15
 16
 12
 1
 7
 26
 4
 14
 7
 15
 28
 33
 33
 11
 15
 11
 30
 23
 21
 30
 27
 27
 4
 18
 25

We begin:

/30  D4  D4   D9  D15  D16   D12   D7   D7   D15   D33   D33   D15   D11   D23   D21   D27   D27
/16  /14 /32                       /1     /26        /28            /11           /30            /30            /4
/35  /2  /13                               /4                                                                          /18
/12  /11                                    /14                                                                        /25



I don't think I made any mistakes.

Sam
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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 12:50:17 AM
30
 16
 35
 12
 4
 14
 2
 11
 4
 32
 13
 9
 15
 16
 12
 1
 7
 26
 4
 14
 7
 15
 28
 33
 33
 11
 15
 11
 30
 23
 21
 30
 27
 27
 4
 18
 25

We begin:

/30  D4  D4   D9  D15  D16   D12   D7   D7   D15   D33   D33   D15   D11   D23   D21   D27   D27
/16  /14 /32                       /1     /26        /28            /11           /30            /30            /4
/35  /2  /13                               /4                                                                          /18
/12  /11                                    /14                                                                        /25



I don't think I made any mistakes.

Sam



Sam.

Did you use the table function?

You probably know what is going on by now but, the horizontals are not lined up with verticals.

Do you see why it's a pain in the butt to write this out?

They all must line up correctly for the whole picture to become clear.


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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 01:14:14 AM
 allow me to rewrite your spins:

/30  D16  /12  D7  /26  D33  D33  /11  D15  D11  /30  D21  /30  D27  D27  /4 
/16         /1         /4                                      /23                             /18
/35                    /14                                                                      /25............and so on......
/12                    /7
/4                     /15
/14                   /28
/2
/11
/4
/32
/13
/9
/15


i see crap in the beginning.... but later on? oh yes 2 repeats D33 and D27.... Those are heavy heavy hits....

Mine Favourites.


I did not want to interupt you sam, but this is how i see it.

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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 02:10:45 AM
waaahome

I did not use the chart function.

I guess I don't have it after all, as our charts are different.  I will study more tomorrow.

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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 03:20:23 AM
Hey Sam you have it mate.

I tell you Waaahome has got a good thing going.

Once one grasps the principal it is easy as pie!

Thanks again Waaahome.

Cheers
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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 08:37:02 AM
@ Waahome

Thx for sharing & continuing to post EVEN though negative posts have found their way to this thread  :(


@ 2Cats

Thx for making it more understandable  :thumbsup:



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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 08:47:17 AM
Hello Waaahome,

Thanks for your interesting system. I have read a number of time and still unsure of the grouping.I noticed sometime a number is selected when it falls in a group and sometime it's not selected. Maybe I still can't figure out certain condition for a number to be considered belonging to a group or not. Or do we have to decide whether it belongs to a certain group.Please correct me if I am wrong,because I am really confused.

Thank you very much

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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 09:43:36 AM
 :) Hi Sniper.

We look at the carpet. if say 5 was spun we look at 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 if the next spin is not in this group we place it under the 5.
If it is in this group we place it next to 5 with a D

Let's say 17 was spun next.

So it is not in the 9 number group. So we put it under 5. We now look at 17 on the carpet. And the goup of numbers are 13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21. So the next spin if it is in this group of numbers will be put next to the vertival numbers with a D. If not in this group it get's put under the 17.

You see the groups of 9 numbers move with the number that was last spun. EXCEPT (correct me if I'm wrong Waaahome, BizzyT pointed it out to me) Let's say 1 was spun then the group of numbers will be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9  and also at the end of the chart let's say 36 was spun then the group will be 31,32,33,34,35,36. Otherwise the nine numbers will be consisting of street either side of the last spun number + the street the number is in.

Numbers:

5,27,16,35,27,2,1,36,36,36,19,10,19,2,13,28,18,21,12,22,29,2,24,6,36,12,15,33,20,28,31,28,11,27,11,30,4,3,3

5    , D1 / 36   ,D36,D36 / 19  , D21 / 12 , D15 / 33 , D31,D28 / 11  , D3,D3
27                                   10             22            20                   27
16                                   19             29            28                   11
35                                    2              2                                    30
27                                   13             24                                   4
2                                     28             6
                                       18             36
                                                        12

Hope I explained ok

lol. Not easy to explain this.

Cheers
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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
Hello Jakkalsdraai,

Thank you very much for your explanation.I really appreciate your willingness to help.What I am still unclear is this, no 17 is in the 10-18, 13-21 and 16-24 group. As we can see, it falls under 3 groups.Which group are we suppose to put in under?

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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 10:01:43 AM
Hello Jakkalsdraai,

Thank you very much for your explanation.I really appreciate your willingness to help.What I am still unclear is this, no 17 is in the 10-18, 13-21 and 16-24 group. As we can see, it falls under 3 groups.Which group are we suppose to put in under?

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sniper


Hello.
17 falls under 1 group ONLY. 13-21. 


when a number falls take it's middle street and two naighbours ones. and thats where you bet.

EACH NUMBER ONLY BELONGS TO ONE GROUPING ONLY.


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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
Hello Waaahome,

Thank you very much.I got it now.

Regards

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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 10:37:36 AM
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You see the groups of 9 numbers move with the number that was last spun. EXCEPT (correct me if I'm wrong Waaahome, BizzyT pointed it out to me) Let's say 1 was spun then the group of numbers will be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9  and also at the end of the chart let's say 36 was spun then the group will be 31,32,33,34,35,36. Otherwise the nine numbers will be consisting of street either side of the last spun number + the street the number is in.

If it is this way, we have two mistakes in the system:

1. The Layout on the carpet and so the selection to the groups got nothing to do with the things going on in the wheel.
2. If number 36 is group 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 it destroys the logical selection of the other groups.
0 is also part of the group 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 thats the same mistake, so we select some numbers more often than others.
for my understanding 0 or 36 should belong to a group 32 33 34 35 36 0 1 2 3 or 33 34 35 36 0 1 2 3 4

If the system would be changed to the wheel-order of the numbers it would be a simple sector-game. results known.

It could work better if the "Markov-Chain" is used

br
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Re: THE GRANDPAAA WAY
February 14, 2009, 10:56:55 AM
Hi Winkel.

This works not using the 0. I only use it if 26 or 32 comes out. Its is part of the extra 2 numbers that i bet.

As per the rest of the lay out i only use 9 numbers to bet. I do not mix anything likw 1,2,3, with 34,35,36.


Maybe you are continuing all around the layout.hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ???


I just follow to what i have. Nothing more is needed.

All i know is that these patterns happen over and over.


Maybe try betting?


Thank you for your interest mr Winkel.