The new guy sais hello and needs some help :)

[Shorty]

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that you are winning. I was just stating that roulette cannot be "beaten" over the long term. Even I play the occasional system when I go to the casino to drink. And yes, systems are fun to play, and it's always good when you come away with a win. But you can't expect to win forever.

[2nd12forlife]

Well we will see, I dont think its impossible to be up in the long long long run.  and I have had a lossing session, Im not saying I have never lost.  But as of right now im up.

[xman1970]

But as of right now im up.

Good for you 2nd 

Would you care to elaborate??


I mean you could be up 1 unit in 2000 spins or 2000 units in 1000 spins....


Hope you catch my drift.....

[2nd12forlife]

Good for you 2nd 

Would you care to elaborate??


I mean you could be up 1 unit in 2000 spins or 2000 units in 1000 spins....


Hope you catch my drift.....

Well as you know xman from our conversation before, I play in Atlantic City very often.  I usually make about $100 in roughly 30 min playing roulette.  Mess around with sic bo a little bit, then I spend most of my time playing poker because I just think its more relaxing, and I usually do pretty well.  But my usual goal for roulette is $100 each time I play and I usually do well, if I lose its about $200, thats when my system stops, but all in all I do not lose very often. 

[trylobit]

It can be beaten, just not with a system.

So with what? Punching dealer and stealing all chips? 

[trylobit]

(...) I consistantly win with my system, (...)

Have you posted your system on this forum?

[2nd12forlife]

Have you posted your system on this forum?

No I have not, Im currently selling it to make a little extra cash, so I cant at the time.  When I stop selling I'll surely post it.  But its my only source of income when I'm not at a casino since I'm at school most of the time 

[Shorty]

If it's a winning system surely you could just up the unit size?

[trylobit]

@ Shorty
How many spins the system needs to survive so that you will say it's a constant winning one?

[Shorty]

Personally I would accept 100,000 placed bets with flat betting.

And a lot of people wouldn't accept that and want to see more.

[2nd12forlife]

If it's a winning system surely you could just up the unit size?

Its a little more difficult than that, I dont play online, i play in actual casinos where tables have a $10-$15 min bet for outside and for inside.  I do both inside and outside bets, and when I do outside its not $15 or $10 total, its on each bet, so If I do dozens or even chances or whatever, it is increased a lot and then with the progression I use, even though its not steep, costs a lot, and I usually dont bring that much with me.  When my profits accumilate enough however, I sure will increase the unit size.  Just not now.

[trylobit]

Well... I may agree that simple explosive progression is not the way to win long term, because there is a big probability that when it crushes it crushes big time (I had it with original Ludomeccanica and at the very beginning with 'marty' of course ).

But there is few good systems that vary bets (i.e. Lanky's divisor, positive progression) which work really well.
As soon as I will find a flat betting system that is as good as what I use now (positive progression) I will switch. Right now I'm learning the Kimo Li way...

I was planning to prove you that there are systems that can handle your conditions, but I didn't expected 100,000 bets...

It would take a lot of time plus I don't think you can supply that big amount of actuals, can you?

[Jakkalsdraai]

100 000 spins.........that is like 300 000 minutes if we take 3 minutes per spins average (most probably more than that). That is 50 000 hours.
Let's say you play three hours a day.

That would be like say 16 667 days.Let's say you play 3 days per week. That would be around 156 days in a year.

That would then come to 106,8 make that 107 years.

eeehhhh......let's say you are a young guy...25 or so........You would have to make it to 132 years old....

So Shorty what you saying is that someone here could have the grail, play for 107 years (while turning 132!) and never lose. Then a guy after that tries the system and fails....ok not the grail anymore.

I agree these massive amounts of spins 1000's and 1000's of spins are really not a practical solution. Hey I might be lucky and my system might work for 10 000 spins, then not work for a 1000, but I might not be playing that 1000 lol.

I think 100 000 spins are ridiculous! If I had to do a quarter of that and win, that would be the grail to me. I think I would happily retire lol.

Jakk

P.S. I realize you are talking of testing 100 000 spins with RX. Just trying to put that into perspective.

[trylobit]

Hoe gaan dit, Jakkalsdraai?

Shorty wrote 100 000 bets
So if system is not betting every spin it can make many more spins...

I think Shorty is a RX coded system tester... Only this way it's possible to test a system with such a big number of spins.
And that would be ok, but my question is: Does such a big date base of real spins exist?
I don't trust RNG...

[See_Jerek]

Hello mate,

Yes shorty is right.The Tera TNT is no holy grail,I have said this repeatedly many times to warn others about the dangers of the system.It loses just like any other system and you require a big bankroll to play this and balls of steel as it can go high on progressions when you hit a string of bad results.However,it is a decent system with merit.If you ask me,Roulette can be beaten,I am pretty sure about this.

Using systems coupled with strict and proper money management,ultimately every system will lose.Good system players accept losses as part and parcel of it,they do not go chasing their losses.

Roulette physics,VB,biased wheels,Dealer Signature are professional methods use by advantage players

[See_Jerek]

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