Unique 4 Repeater System

RPro75 · May 11, 2009, 01:27:36 AM

This is a little system I thought up while thinking of ways to play repeaters.

1. You will track spins until you get 4 unique numbers in the same dozen. These will be your 4 numbers to play.

Example:
Here are your spins:10,25,36,34,22,1,25,14,6,10,2,0,26,31

The 3rd or high dozen was the first to reach 4 unique numbers and they are: 36,34,26 and 31.

2. You will bet as follows:

- Place 1 unit on each of your 4 numbers (36,34,26,31)
- Place one chip on 0 or 2 chips on 0,00 split if American wheel.
- Place 12 units on each of the other dozens (in this case Dozen 1 and Dozen 2).

3. Proceed to spin and if it lands on one of the dozens you win 7 units. Spin again. If it hits one of your numbers or 0, stop. The cycle is over. Repeat.

4. If you lose, here is your second bet: 2 units on each of the numbers and 0 (4 units on 0,00 split if American Wheel). 12 units on each of the other dozens. (13 units if American wheel). If you win, stop. The cycle is over, repeat.

5. If you lose again, place 3 units on each of your numbers and 0 (6 units on 0,00 split if American) and 16 units on each of the other dozens. (19 units if American wheel).

6. If you lose for a 3rd and final time, you have 1 more bet. Place 4 units on each of your numbers and 0 (8 units on 0,00 split if American) and 21 units on each of the other dozens (25 units if American wheel). If you lose this bet, unfortunately you have lost the cycle. Restart.

There are a couple of things to point out. If it hits your dozens and not the numbers, you always make a profit. Leave your bets and spin again. The more spins you get in, the more likely one of your unique numbers will repeat. The 3rd and 4th bets will not produce a profit unless you have hit some dozen spins in between, but they will bring you close to your starting point. I have found that I have been hitting the dozens in between and only a few times did I get to the 3rd and 4th bet. I have done well with this, but I have only tested it twice, so it is too early to know if it's any good. I am hoping you all will help me with that. Enjoy and if you have questions, by all means ask. Also, I posted my first test so that you may see the betting cycle more clearly.

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 0 Bet 29 36 -29 7 407 1 : 27,31,32,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
9 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
10 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
11 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
12 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
13 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
14 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
15 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
16 12 Bet 29 36 -29 7 414 1 : 15,19,21,25,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
17 1 Bet 29 36 -29 7 421 1 : 15,19,21,25,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
18 21 Bet 29 36 -29 7 428 1 : 15,19,21,25,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
19 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
20 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
21 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
22 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
23 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
24 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
25 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
26 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
27 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 428
28 4 Bet 29 36 -29 7 435 1 : 15,16,19,22,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
29 19 Bet 29 36 -29 7 442 1 : 15,16,19,22,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
30 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 442
31 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 442
32 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 442
33 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 442
34 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 442
35 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 442
36 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 442
37 17 Bet 29 36 -29 7 449 1 : 3,7,9,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
38 8 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 420 1 : 3,7,9,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
39 9 Bet 34 72 -34 38 458 2 : 3,7,9,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
40 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
41 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
42 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
43 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
44 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
45 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
46 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
47 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
48 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 458
49 22 Bet 29 36 -29 7 465 1 : 15,16,18,22,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
50 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
51 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
52 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
53 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
54 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
55 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
56 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
57 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
58 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
59 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
60 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
61 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
62 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 465
63 31 Bet 29 36 -29 7 472 1 : 1,2,5,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
64 19 Bet 29 36 -29 7 479 1 : 1,2,5,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
65 33 Bet 29 36 -29 7 486 1 : 1,2,5,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
66 15 Bet 29 36 -29 7 493 1 : 1,2,5,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
67 6 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 464 1 : 1,2,5,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
68 1 Bet 34 72 -34 38 502 2 : 1,2,5,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
69 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
70 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
71 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
72 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
73 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
74 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
75 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
76 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
77 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
78 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
79 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
80 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 502
81 17 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 473 1 : 16,18,19,20,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
82 9 Bet 34 36 -34 2 475 2 : 16,18,19,20,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
83 14 Bet 34 0 -34 -34 441 2 : 16,18,19,20,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
84 24 Bet 47 0 -47 -47 394 3 : 16,18,19,20,0
16 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
85 1 Bet 62 63 -62 1 395 4 : 16,18,19,20,0
21 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
86 6 Bet 62 63 -62 1 396 4 : 16,18,19,20,0
21 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
87 34 Bet 62 63 -62 1 397 4 : 16,18,19,20,0
21 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
88 29 Bet 62 63 -62 1 398 4 : 16,18,19,20,0
21 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
89 0 Bet 62 144 -62 82 480 4 : 16,18,19,20,0
21 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
90 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
91 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
92 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
93 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
94 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
95 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
96 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
97 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
98 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
99 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
100 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 480
101 5 Bet 29 36 -29 7 487 1 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
102 12 Bet 29 36 -29 7 494 1 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
103 14 Bet 29 36 -29 7 501 1 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
104 13 Bet 29 36 -29 7 508 1 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
105 7 Bet 29 36 -29 7 515 1 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
106 17 Bet 29 36 -29 7 522 1 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
107 27 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 493 1 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
108 21 Bet 34 36 -34 2 495 2 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
109 1 Bet 34 36 -34 2 497 2 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
110 4 Bet 34 36 -34 2 499 2 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
111 18 Bet 34 36 -34 2 501 2 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
112 33 Bet 34 0 -34 -34 467 2 : 28,29,31,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
113 29 Bet 47 108 -47 61 528 3 : 28,29,31,36,0
16 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen

RPro75 · May 11, 2009, 01:44:08 AM

I'm liking this. It tanked once in the beginning but dug itself out nicely. I'll just keep testing because this is only the 2nd test. It could be beginners luck.

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 3 Bet 29 36 -29 7 407 1 : 14,16,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
11 5 Bet 29 36 -29 7 414 1 : 14,16,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
12 15 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 385 1 : 14,16,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
13 4 Bet 34 36 -34 2 387 2 : 14,16,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
14 3 Bet 34 36 -34 2 389 2 : 14,16,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
15 16 Bet 34 72 -34 38 427 2 : 14,16,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
16 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
17 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
18 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
19 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
20 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
21 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
22 34 Bet 29 36 -29 7 434 1 : 1,3,9,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
23 35 Bet 29 36 -29 7 441 1 : 1,3,9,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
24 0 Bet 29 36 -29 7 448 1 : 1,3,9,12,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
25 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
26 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
27 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
28 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
29 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
30 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
31 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
32 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 448
33 20 Bet 29 36 -29 7 455 1 : 27,29,35,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
34 31 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 426 1 : 27,29,35,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
35 10 Bet 34 36 -34 2 428 2 : 27,29,35,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
36 34 Bet 34 0 -34 -34 394 2 : 27,29,35,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
37 18 Bet 47 48 -47 1 395 3 : 27,29,35,36,0
16 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
38 33 Bet 47 0 -47 -47 348 3 : 27,29,35,36,0
16 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
39 14 Bet 62 63 -62 1 349 4 : 27,29,35,36,0
21 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
40 26 Bet 62 0 -62 -62 287 4 : 27,29,35,36,0
21 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
41 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
42 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
43 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
44 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
45 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
46 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
47 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
48 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
49 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
50 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 287
51 29 Bet 29 36 -29 7 294 1 : 13,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
52 23 Bet 29 36 -29 7 301 1 : 13,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
53 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 301
54 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 301
55 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 301
56 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 301
57 11 Bet 29 36 -29 7 308 1 : 13,17,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
58 3 Bet 29 36 -29 7 315 1 : 13,17,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
59 36 Bet 29 36 -29 7 322 1 : 13,17,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
60 22 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 293 1 : 13,17,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
61 17 Bet 34 72 -34 38 331 2 : 13,17,20,21,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
62 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
63 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
64 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
65 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
66 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
67 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
68 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
69 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
70 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 331
71 24 Bet 29 36 -29 7 338 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
72 23 Bet 29 36 -29 7 345 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
73 12 Bet 29 36 -29 7 352 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
74 9 Bet 29 36 -29 7 359 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
75 11 Bet 29 36 -29 7 366 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
76 21 Bet 29 36 -29 7 373 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
77 10 Bet 29 36 -29 7 380 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
78 10 Bet 29 36 -29 7 387 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
79 7 Bet 29 36 -29 7 394 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
80 18 Bet 29 36 -29 7 401 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
81 28 Bet 29 36 -29 7 408 1 : 26,28,29,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
82 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 408
83 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 408
84 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 408
85 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 408
86 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 408
87 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 408
88 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 408
89 3 Bet 29 36 -29 7 415 1 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
90 27 Bet 29 36 -29 7 422 1 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
91 11 Bet 29 36 -29 7 429 1 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
92 1 Bet 29 36 -29 7 436 1 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
93 7 Bet 29 36 -29 7 443 1 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
94 3 Bet 29 36 -29 7 450 1 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
95 21 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 421 1 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
96 14 Bet 34 72 -34 38 459 2 : 14,15,20,23,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
97 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
98 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
99 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
100 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
101 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
102 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
103 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
104 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 459
105 0 Bet 29 36 -29 7 466 1 : 29,30,32,35,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen

rjeaton1 · May 11, 2009, 01:46:41 AM

I'm definitely going to try this out, I'm a big fan of betting on numbers waiting for them to repeat themselves. It's the one thing I know for an absolute fact that numbers on a roulette table always do...it's just figuring out when is all, haha. I'll try it out in the near future and let you know my results.

Bazeegar · May 11, 2009, 02:10:53 AM

Nice one

argie · May 11, 2009, 04:57:10 AM

I'm very glad you're still around RPro75

RPro75 · May 11, 2009, 08:23:36 AM

This is still going OK. Just a short 54 spin test as I have to get ready for work. I will be using actuals from Weisbaden for all of mu tests on this system. I will post all test results, good and bad, and I will keep a running total of the tests so everyone can see where we are all at and if the losses will outweigh the wins and keep us in profit.

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
5 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
6 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
7 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
8 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
9 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
10 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
11 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
12 0 Bet 29 36 -29 7 407 1 : 27,29,33,36,0
12 : 1st Dozen,2nd Dozen
13 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
14 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
15 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
16 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
17 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
18 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
19 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
20 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
21 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
22 27 Bet 29 36 -29 7 414 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
23 16 Bet 29 36 -29 7 421 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
24 16 Bet 29 36 -29 7 428 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
25 15 Bet 29 36 -29 7 435 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
26 19 Bet 29 36 -29 7 442 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
27 20 Bet 29 36 -29 7 449 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
28 20 Bet 29 36 -29 7 456 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
29 6 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 427 1 : 2,4,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
30 11 Bet 36 72 -36 36 463 2 : 2,4,6,10,11,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
31 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
32 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
33 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
34 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
35 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
36 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
37 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
38 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
39 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 463
40 35 Bet 29 36 -29 7 470 1 : 1,3,5,6,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
41 5 Bet 29 36 -29 7 477 1 : 1,3,5,6,0
12 : 2nd Dozen,3rd Dozen
42 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
43 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
44 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
45 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
46 4 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
47 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
48 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
49 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
50 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 477
51 20 Bet 29 0 -29 -29 448 1 : 13,15,17,18,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
52 35 Bet 34 36 -34 2 450 2 : 13,15,17,18,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
53 8 Bet 34 36 -34 2 452 2 : 13,15,17,18,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen
54 13 Bet 34 72 -34 38 490 2 : 13,15,17,18,0
12 : 1st Dozen,3rd Dozen

Running Total - 3 tests, +284 units.

babs · May 11, 2009, 10:21:35 AM

Hi RPro,

I took some tests with this system. Very nice. I did crash once, completely - My BR was too small to play again after the third loss. Maybe it was just bad luck.
I have the following questions:

Quote1. You will track spins until you get 4 unique numbers in the same dozen. These will be your 4 numbers to play.

Example:
Here are your spins:10,25,36,34,22,1,25,14,6,10,2,0,26,31

The 3rd or high dozen was the first to reach 4 unique numbers and they are: 36,34,26 and 31.

2. You will bet as follows:

- Place 1 unit on each of your 4 numbers (36,34,26,31)
- Place one chip on 0 or 2 chips on 0,00 split if American wheel.
- Place 12 units on each of the other dozens (in this case Dozen 1 and Dozen 2).

What do you do when there is a lot of repeaters in the beginning. In one spin test I got 16 four times and 14 twice before I had 4 unique numbers. That spin test went bust. Maybe it would be safer to start retracking when repeats appear so early on?

Quote4. If you lose, here is your second bet: 2 units on each of the numbers and 0 (4 units on 0,00 split if American Wheel). 12 units on each of the other dozens. (13 units if American wheel). If you win, stop. The cycle is over, repeat.

Why do you not also increase the units on the other dozens with your second bet? Also what do you mean with "if you win"? Is it when one of the four numbers hit, or when you are in profit (however small)? I once lost my first spin, and then had a few hits in the other dozens (enough to make me profit). I stopped, but I always wondered if I was suppose to continue until one of the unique numbers hit?

RPro75 · May 11, 2009, 10:30:18 AM

Quote from: babs on May 11, 2009, 10:21:35 AM
Hi RPro,

I took some tests with this system. Very nice. I did crash once, completely - My BR was too small to play again after the third loss. Maybe it was just bad luck.
I have the following questions:

What do you do when there is a lot of repeaters in the beginning. In one spin test I got 16 four times and 14 twice before I had 4 unique numbers. That spin test went bust. Maybe it would be safer to start retracking when repeats appear so early on?

Why do you not also increase the units on the other dozens with your second bet? Also what do you mean with "if you win"? Is it when one of the four numbers hit, or when you are in profit (however small)? I once lost my first spin, and then had a few hits in the other dozens (enough to make me profit). I stopped, but I always wondered if I was suppose to continue until one of the unique numbers hit?

You have a few good points there about the repeaters early on, Babs. As for your questions, yes, I play until a repeater hits or I lose my 4th bet. If one of the dozens hits, leave your bets and keep playing. If a number hits in the dozen where your repeaters are but it isn't one of them, increase to the next bet. I don't raise the dozens bet on the 2nd bet because if a dozen hits you still make a profit and if a repeater hits, you make a better profit. I have had strings where in the beginning I placed my first bet and had the dozens hit 5 or 6 times and cover a loss, so in that instance, maybe you should not raise your bet on a loss. I'm sorry it tanked 3 in a row on you, that hasn't happened to me yet, but, I have only done 3 tests and maybe I was super lucky. I'll keep testing and see what happens.

babs · May 11, 2009, 10:35:07 AM

QuoteI'm sorry it tanked 3 in a row on you, that hasn't happened to me yet, but, I have only done 3 tests and maybe I was super lucky. I'll keep testing and see what happens

No problem. I was not real money. Another thing. The only reason it tanked was that my BR was probably not big enough. I was not able to continue playing. What would you suggest be the minimum BR to start playing with?

RPro75 · May 11, 2009, 11:40:17 AM

Quote from: babs on May 11, 2009, 10:35:07 AM
No problem. I was not real money. Another thing. The only reason it tanked was that my BR was probably not big enough. I was not able to continue playing. What would you suggest be the minimum BR to start playing with?

Most of the time I always start with 400 units no matter what system I play. Some may need more or less. I think you could start with 200-300 units and play this system safely.

babs · May 11, 2009, 11:42:59 AM

Ok, I played a few sessions but it was not good. Perhaps I play it wrong, perhaps I am hitting some bad luck. I hope you can use this to tweak your system.

I started with a BR of 242. I know this is not high, but it is only playmoney and this is the amount I have in real money. So I used this amount to see how my real money would fare if I played it. This also tested your idea that 200 to 300 would be enough. Perhaps not. 400 could be safer, but I think 500.

First test

Spins: 36, 1, 29, 17, 25, 14, 3, 11, 15, 15, 32 (not sure what to do with those early repeaters)

So I bet on 25, 29, 32, 36 and zero (European)

And I bet on 1st and 2nd Dozen - Here Goes:

20 - 249
25 - 256 - Winner

Session ends with Profit - 14 Units Nice

2nd Test: BR 256

Spins: 34 21 23 8 26 10 24 8 2 (Again a repeater - I ignore them and wait for 4 unique numbers)

So I bet on 2, 3, 8, 10 and 0

Bet on 2nd and 3rd Dozen

36 - 263
12 - 234 first loss
26 - 236 (this is why I asked why you do not increase dozen bets on second spin. I made 2 units profit, but I am still down from my initial BR of 256)
11 - 189 Second Loss
26 - 190 (up only 1 unit)
20 - 191 I stopped Here
5 - Loss BR 129 down 127 units

End of session.

3rd Test
BR 129

Spins 20 27 13 35 11 28 1 31 (ah, no repeaters)

Bet on 0, 27, 28, 31, 35
and 1st and 2nd Dozen
10 - 136
32 - First loss 107
22 - 109
7 - 111
31 - Hit BR 149

4th Test
BR 149
Spins 18 36 27 30 10 22 7 27 18 28 (oops, 2 repeaters already)

OK bet on 0, 27, 28, 30, 36
also 1st and 2nd Dozen
24 - 156
27 - 163 Hit (27 was hit 3 times)

BR 163

5th Test
BR 163
Spins 15 9 31 1 30 7 26 6

Bet on 0, 1, 6, 7, 9
also 2nd and 3rd Dozen

19 - 170
10 - First Loss 141
2 - Second Loss 107
2 - Third Loss 60
Bankroll to small to continue (add 50 units)
3 - Fourth and last loss

Ok Busted.

Hope this helps you. I wish there was a way to improve the profits when hitting a dozen after a loss. Yes, you do make a profit, but only 2 units up from your second bet. You still lost 29 units with your first loss. So you have to hit 15 dozens in a row to show a small profit from one loss (hitting a number will help, but if you hit two or three losses so quickly after each other it is hard to come back)

RPro75 · May 11, 2009, 12:00:35 PM

Quote from: babs on May 11, 2009, 11:42:59 AM
Ok, I played a few sessions but it was not good. Perhaps I play it wrong, perhaps I am hitting some bad luck. I hope you can use this to tweak your system.

I started with a BR of 242. I know this is not high, but it is only playmoney and this is the amount I have in real money. So I used this amount to see how my real money would fare if I played it. This also tested your idea that 200 to 300 would be enough. Perhaps not. 400 could be safer, but I think 500.

First test

Spins: 36, 1, 29, 17, 25, 14, 3, 11, 15, 15, 32 (not sure what to do with those early repeaters)

So I bet on 25, 29, 32, 36 and zero (European)

And I bet on 1st and 2nd Dozen - Here Goes:

20 - 249
25 - 256 - Winner

Session ends with Profit - 14 Units Nice

2nd Test: BR 256

Spins: 34 21 23 8 26 10 24 8 2 (Again a repeater - I ignore them and wait for 4 unique numbers)

So I bet on 2, 3, 8, 10 and 0

Bet on 2nd and 3rd Dozen

36 - 263
12 - 234 first loss
26 - 236 (this is why I asked why you do not increase dozen bets on second spin. I made 2 units profit, but I am still down from my initial BR of 256)
11 - 189 Second Loss
26 - 190 (up only 1 unit)
20 - 191 I stopped Here
5 - Loss BR 129 down 127 units

End of session.

3rd Test
BR 129

Spins 20 27 13 35 11 28 1 31 (ah, no repeaters)

Bet on 0, 27, 28, 31, 35
and 1st and 2nd Dozen
10 - 136
32 - First loss 107
22 - 109
7 - 111
31 - Hit BR 149

4th Test
BR 149
Spins 18 36 27 30 10 22 7 27 18 28 (oops, 2 repeaters already)

OK bet on 0, 27, 28, 30, 36
also 1st and 2nd Dozen
24 - 156
27 - 163 Hit (27 was hit 3 times)

BR 163

5th Test
BR 163
Spins 15 9 31 1 30 7 26 6

Bet on 0, 1, 6, 7, 9
also 2nd and 3rd Dozen

19 - 170
10 - First Loss 141
2 - Second Loss 107
2 - Third Loss 60
Bankroll to small to continue (add 50 units)
3 - Fourth and last loss

Ok Busted.

Hope this helps you. I wish there was a way to improve the profits when hitting a dozen after a loss. Yes, you do make a profit, but only 2 units up from your second bet. You still lost 29 units with your first loss. So you have to hit 15 dozens in a row to show a small profit from one loss (hitting a number will help, but if you hit two or three losses so quickly after each other it is hard to come back)

I don't knoe, maybe I just did not test it enough or got lucky my first 3 times. May I ask where you are getting your spin data? Are you playing a Euro wheel or American? It seems you had one good session out of all of the ones you posted. I think it still has potential, but definitely needs some tweaking. I think we need to do something about those early repeaters, like maybe stop and re-start tracking after a repeater. What do you think?

babs · May 11, 2009, 12:04:38 PM

QuoteMay I ask where you are getting your spin data? Are you playing a Euro wheel or American?

European. I think I did mention it somewhere.

I played online, fun money.

I also think this has potential. Do not let it go yet.

babs · May 11, 2009, 12:11:49 PM

QuoteI think we need to do something about those early repeaters, like maybe stop and re-start tracking after a repeater. What do you think?

I think you should re-track since the whole focus of this system is to hit repeats. If you already hit one repeat before starting you are narrowing your chances. Another possibility: instead of re-tracking from the start use the first 4 unique numbers (that did not repeat) in a group.

I will test this system on Roulette Ride 1.2 also

babs · May 11, 2009, 12:17:11 PM

0 --- this spin was 24
0 --- this spin was 18
0 --- this spin was 8
0 --- this spin was 26
0 --- this spin was 24
0 --- this spin was 7
0 --- this spin was 20
0 --- this spin was 8
0 --- this spin was 1
0 --- this spin was 15
0 --- this spin was 13
Betted Here: 0, 13, 15, 28, 20 (I ignored any numbers that repeated)
7 --- this spin was 34
14 --- this spin was 12
-15 --- this spin was 0 Should have won (for some reason the program did not made this a win.)

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The amount won/lost on this competition was --- -15

The number of spins on this competition was --- 14

After 14 spins it would have been a profit. Not sure how much

babs · May 11, 2009, 12:17:11 PM

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