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[Nathan Detroit]

I see no reason for cheese to prove  anything    to satisfy the  curiosity of some.

Just  by stating that he has a winning method does not require him to share  it.  Which translates : Do your OWN home work . Seek and ye too shall find.



Nathan Detroit

[MiniBaccarat]

G'day,

I see no reason for cheese to prove  anything    to satisfy the  curiosity of some.

Just  by stating that he has a winning method does not require him to share  it. 
Which translates : Do your OWN home work . Seek and ye too shall find.

Nathan Detroit

I fully agree with ND's comments, except maybe..... the
<< Seek and ye too shall find >> idea,
some are never going to be capable to do this.

Glenn.

[Nathan Detroit]

<< Seek and ye too shall find >> idea,
*******some are never going to be capable to do this.******( Glenn)

My good friend there is one  alternative after a reasonable time  of play    coupled with negative results they should then stay away from the  roulette tables. Sounds harsh but that`s the truth.

My advice to those is  : You won`t find what you are seeking at roulette forums . There are plenty of books  by quailified     roulette  authors out there. Stay away from single system sellers/scammers.



Nathan Detroit.
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Zindrod]

  Cheese has nothing. anyone with half a brain cell knows this. Except maybe a slightly blue cheese smell!

You are right though nobody has to prove anything. It is a well known fact that roulette can only be beaten with proven methods which is off course AP. It's documented and proven.

[cheese]

Cheese has nothing. anyone with half a brain cell knows this.

Gosh, Zin, no need to tell us your IQ, we already have a petty good idea what it is. And whats with the charming pic for your avatar? Is that how you feel all the time, like you need an exorcism? Get some med's, you'll fell much better in no time..

[Nathan Detroit]

If the AP players are happy with their results , if  cheese is  satisfied , if all the system players are happy........then  everybody is  happy  in their own way . That`s all  what matters. 

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Zindrod]

Gosh, Zin, no need to tell us your IQ, we already have a petty good idea what it is. And whats with the charming pic for your avatar? Is that how you feel all the time, like you need an exorcism? Get some med's, you'll fell much better in no time..

 Don't be nasty now. That's what I look like. Don't like the 'fell' idea either. You meant feel or fall? Wouldn't like to 'fall' much better though. Guess you meant 'feel' ... thanks for the concern!

Could be that my looks are due to eating too much cheese for breakfast... 

[gizmotron]

Thats it in a nutshell. It makes no difference where they came from. You can't force rules on something thats no[sp]  governed by rules. Look what Gizmo did yesterday. He says oh, that was a 'rare event', that should have won. Thats a rule he tried to foist on outcomes that obey no rules. I hate to sound trite, but in roulette rule number 1 is: There Are No Rules.

This is how rare it is Cheese Baker. It's 15 out of 1000 chances that it will lose. That's .05 times .03 that it will lose on the first time out of 100 spins that is is tried.

Look at this from Alfred Baker (Spike):

From: Alfred Baker <kings_watermark@***.***> 
To: gizmotron@***.***
Subject: Hey
Date: Mar 28, 2011 6:27 PM
Jesus, Mark, I just heard from ANOTHER guy that you fleeced. He has no clue what it was you're trying to teach, just like the others who contacted me. Why don't you give it up, that test on VLS you flunked should tell you something.

Not only is Cheese an internet freak but so is Alfred.

[gizmotron]

I'm not playing 'against' anything. I use past spins to play my own game and I use the roulette board to make the bets. The advantage is, the edge in my game is in my favor, not the houses. But the point is, the game is rigged, the way its set up. You have to look beyond the game as you see it laid out on the felt.

Ah yes, more game within the game stuff, kind of like Cheese within the game of Spike. Spike thinks there is a combination of bets that change the odds in his favor. That's the same guy that can't see a rare event when it is shown to him. But that doesn't stop him from playing games. Internet freakazoid games.

[cheese]

Spike thinks there is a combination of bets that change the odds in his favor. That's the same guy that can't see a rare event when it is shown to him.

Where did Spike ever say there is a combination of bets that change the odds? If you read what he says, its always the polar opposite of that. There is no best time to bet, no favorable time to bet, random obeys its own rules, it never obeys yours. There are no rare events, every event in roulette is completely balanced and accurate. If you see 12 reds in a row on a wheel, somewhere in the world there is 12 blacks in a row. Balance. That was my point in starting this thread. The string of random numbers you use don't even have to come from a single source, because all the random numbers being produced by roulette wheels worldwide are connected, they are always striving to give perfect balance. The flaw in you're thinking, Gizmo, is you obviously think the last number on the wheel you're playing is somehow connected to the previous numbers from that wheel, and if you look real hard, you'll see 'rare events'. If the numbers aren't connected, and they're not, rare events don't exist. Its a mathematical impossibility.

[gizmotron]

Where did Spike ever say there is a combination of bets that change the odds? If you read what he says, its always the polar opposite of that. There is no best time to bet, no favorable time to bet, random obeys its own rules, it never obeys yours. There are no rare events, every event in roulette is completely balanced and accurate. If you see 12 reds in a row on a wheel, somewhere in the world there is 12 blacks in a row. Balance. That was my point in starting this thread. The string of random numbers you use don't even have to come from a single source, because all the random numbers being produced by roulette wheels worldwide are connected, they are always striving to give perfect balance. The flaw in you're thinking, Gizmo, is you obviously think the last number on the wheel you're playing is somehow connected to the previous numbers from that wheel, and if you look real hard, you'll see 'rare events'. If the numbers aren't connected, and they're not, rare events don't exist. Its a mathematical impossibility.

No, you are an idiot.  Spending time on you is fly paper.

[cheese]

No, you are an idiot.  Spending time on you is fly paper.

Thats all the response you're capable of after I lay out the facts? Wow, I thought you had a little more than that going on, for somebody who's going to shut down the game any day now. I thought you'd have all kinds of counter theories, and you got nothin?

[gizmotron]

Thats all the response you're capable of after I lay out the facts? Wow, I thought you had a little more than that going on, for somebody who's going to shut down the game any day now. I thought you'd have all kinds of counter theories, and you got nothin?

I didn't even bother to read your so called facts, I still haven't. Was it good? Perhaps someone else will recommend that I bother. I'll wait for that.

[gizmotron]

Spike - 16-Feb-2010 - "I look at the last outcome and balance it against the last few outcomes and balance THAT against my experience with random and make my educated guess. There really is nothing more to it than that. On the next spin everything changes and I do it all again.

Thats it in a nutshell. You can do the same thing with practice. I don't know any other way to explain it. I'm sorry that all my claims spring from such a simple method of play, but they do."

Spike - 16-Feb-2010 - "Sure the balance>>

Lets change it then.

"I look at the last outcome and study it against the last few outcomes and study THAT against my experience with random and make my educated guess."

Is that clearer? I don't balance anything in the way balance is understood."

Spike - 17-Feb-2010 -Yes, this is not new information, we have discussed it many times.

something like that (born out of experience)>>>

Yes, practice and experience, something Gizmo and I have been saying for about 3 years now. Its not giving anything away, only about 1 person in 10,000 will take the time to get the experience and probably not even that many.

[gizmotron]

This must be where Spike talks about following trends:

Spike -21-Feb-10 - "you have more hits on the 11, 12th 13th...... spin in a 10 Red streak>>

LOL! Read what I said, Kelly. If you FOLLOW the long streak, instead of bet against it and you're flat betting, you can only lose ONCE. Maybe it will go 3 or 4 more, but if it doesn't, you only lose one time. How many times can you lose betting against it? You can't know that answer, but you know for abosolute sure how often you'll lose betting WITH it. Common sense."

I could use that to teach my method. Thanks Spike.

[gizmotron]

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