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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 14, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
Yo. . .  John 1234.

       I am the one who came up with 2+Capping and 3+Capping.     I do not mind you using my ideas, in fact, I like what you have done with it.

         Your progressions look interesting.     For  years I have used the Martin Silverthorne Neg.  Progression when gambling.     I like the idea of losing 66. 66% of my bets, to the house,  and recovering all lost $$$$-loot on the third bet. . . . sweet ! 

                    I have won 4-figure $$$$ using it.      I like the Playtec Software online Casino's.     They seem to have a fair RNG. . . . . . gOOGLE . . . . Playtec Online Casino's . . . . search. . . . . . up pops the Casino's using thier software. . . . with free practice modes.

          With your added bet-same-way-as-the-time-before-last after  a loss,  it should  add more leverage to the bottom  line.

               Silverthorne's manual was updated  in Dec.  of 2004.    He came out with . . . NEURAL SYSTEM II . . . at that time.     It is another 80+ pages added to his. . . . .  NEURAL I. . . .   system.      He added two extra steps to his progression strings.    They add up to a  total of 32-steps in his neg.  progression.   You MOVE UP  after you lose a level and drop-down one step after you win a bet. . . . . go  down 2-steps if you win two-out-of-three bets.

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A]. . . .  5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00,50. 00,75. 00,100. 00
B]. . . .  10. 00,16. 00,26. 00,40. 00,70. 00,105. 00,150. 00,200. 00
C] . . . 15. 00,25. 00,40. 00,65. 00,105. 00,150. 00,225. 00,300. 00
D]. . . . 25. 00,40. 00,65. 00,105. 00,150. 00,225. 00,325. 00,500. 00

      MY COMPUTER IS MESSING UP . . . SO . . . OFF FOR NOW.

Best. . . .
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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 14, 2009, 01:28:36 PM
Yo. . .  John 1234.

       I am the one who came up with 2+Capping and 3+Capping.     I do not mind you using my ideas, in fact, I like what you have done with it.

         Your progressions look interesting.     For  years I have used the Martin Silverthorne Neg.  Progression when gambling.     I like the idea of losing 66. 66% of my bets, to the house,  and recovering all lost $$$$-loot on the third bet. . . . sweet ! 

                    I have won 4-figure $$$$ using it.      I like the Playtec Software online Casino's.     They seem to have a fair RNG. . . . . . gOOGLE . . . . Playtec Online Casino's . . . . search. . . . . . up pops the Casino's using thier software. . . . with free practice modes.

          With your added bet-same-way-as-the-time-before-last after  a loss,  it should  add more leverage to the bottom  line.

               Silverthorne's manual was updated  in Dec.  of 2004.    He came out with . . . NEURAL SYSTEM II . . . at that time.     It is another 80+ pages added to his. . . . .  NEURAL I. . . .   system.      He added two extra steps to his progression strings.    They add up to a  total of 32-steps in his neg.  progression.   You MOVE UP  after you lose a level and drop-down one step after you win a bet. . . . . go  down 2-steps if you win two-out-of-three bets.

:

A]. . . .  5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00,50. 00,75. 00,100. 00
B]. . . .  10. 00,16. 00,26. 00,40. 00,70. 00,105. 00,150. 00,200. 00
C] . . . 15. 00,25. 00,40. 00,65. 00,105. 00,150. 00,225. 00,300. 00
D]. . . . 25. 00,40. 00,65. 00,105. 00,150. 00,225. 00,325. 00,500. 00

      MY COMPUTER IS MESSING UP . . . SO . . . OFF FOR NOW.

Best. . . .
W7

 
 

             

             

You are actually the person who got me into baccarat. I came across your 3+capping posts over on the wrong way craps forum when I was making a switch from roulette to craps. I  like your systems a lot but could never play your system  because I could not handle the progression. I have altered your systems in different ways to deal with the progression but I don't think that the altered versions will ever be as good as your system. I have won some money but not nearly has much as you have won.

I have never tried any of the playtech casinos. I prefer to use Bet Phoenix because it has live play and it accepts USA citizens.

I honestly have not been using the capping systems lately. If you have any ideas and would like to take this thread over then feel free to do so. After all,everything here stems from your ideas.

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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 14, 2009, 09:30:04 PM
John1234,


        You are doing an excellent job. . . . hang-in there.   You really need to get Silverthorne's. . . . .  NEURAL  SYSTEM . . . . .  manuals.

         His Neural System was run through seven-figure simulations.    He lost three tiers only twice,  once a 525 games played and once around 575 games played.   
        He moved on to the 4th and final betting tier and recovered all his  lost $$$$ bets.

        His org.   claims to have . . . NEVER. . . .  lost all  four levels, in on-line or real brick and wood Casino's !

         John, in his Neural betting- strings he brings down the progression to a + $ 2. 00 game ( ask on-line for someone to send you his Neural manuals they
 are floating around for free ) below is a four level low-limit Neural string. . . . . back-test it.     Twenty base-betting units being a complete-walk-away  game :


A] . . . . 1. 00,2. 00,3. 00,5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00
B]. . . . . 2. 00,3. 00,5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00,50. 00
C]. . . . . 3. 00,5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00,50. 00,80. 00
D]. . . . . 6. 00,10. 00,16. 00,26. 00,40. 00,65. 00,105. 00,175. 00

   Play it using the Neural System's rules and  2+Capping or 3+Capping and you will never lose !  :diablo:

W7
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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 15, 2009, 03:37:55 AM
John1234,


        You are doing an excellent job. . . . hang-in there.   You really need to get Silverthorne's. . . . .  NEURAL  SYSTEM . . . . .  manuals.

         His Neural System was run through seven-figure simulations.    He lost three tiers only twice,  once a 525 games played and once around 575 games played.    
        He moved on to the 4th and final betting tier and recovered all his  lost $$$$ bets.

        His org.   claims to have . . . NEVER. . . .  lost all  four levels, in on-line or real brick and wood Casino's !

         John, in his Neural betting- strings he brings down the progression to a + $ 2. 00 game ( ask on-line for someone to send you his Neural manuals they
 are floating around for free ) below is a four level low-limit Neural string. . . . . back-test it.     Twenty base-betting units being a complete-walk-away  game :


A] . . . . 1. 00,2. 00,3. 00,5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00
B]. . . . . 2. 00,3. 00,5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00,50. 00
C]. . . . . 3. 00,5. 00,8. 00,13. 00,21. 00,35. 00,50. 00,80. 00
D]. . . . . 6. 00,10. 00,16. 00,26. 00,40. 00,65. 00,105. 00,175. 00

   Play it using the Neural System's rules and  2+Capping or 3+Capping and you will never lose !  :diablo:

W7
aka: WBR. . . . . Wolf-Byte-with-Rabies  :diablo:




You need balls of steel for that progression alot of people including myself  wouldnt be able to play it even if it does work

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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 15, 2009, 06:58:16 AM
Quote from: W7 link=topic=10678. msg77857#msg77857 date=1252974604
John1234,


        You are doing an excellent job.  .  .  .  hang-in there.    You really need to get Silverthorne's.  .  .  .  .   NEURAL  SYSTEM .  .  .  .  .   manuals. 

         His Neural System was run through seven-figure simulations.     He lost three tiers only twice,  once a 525 games played and once around 575 games played.    
        He moved on to the 4th and final betting tier and recovered all his  lost $$$$ bets. 

        His org.    claims to have .  .  .  NEVER.  .  .  .   lost all  four levels, in on-line or real brick and wood Casino's !

         John, in his Neural betting- strings he brings down the progression to a + $ 2.  00 game ( ask on-line for someone to send you his Neural manuals they
 are floating around for free ) below is a four level low-limit Neural string.  .  .  .  .  back-test it.      Twenty base-betting units being a complete-walk-away  game :


A] .  .  .  .  1.  00,2.  00,3.  00,5.  00,8.  00,13.  00,21.  00,35.  00
B].  .  .  .  .  2.  00,3.  00,5.  00,8.  00,13.  00,21.  00,35.  00,50.  00
C].  .  .  .  .  3.  00,5.  00,8.  00,13.  00,21.  00,35.  00,50.  00,80.  00
D].  .  .  .  .  6.  00,10.  00,16.  00,26.  00,40.  00,65.  00,105.  00,175.  00

   Play it using the Neural System's rules and  2+Capping or 3+Capping and you will never lose !  :diablo:

W7
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  Can somebody please explain to me what that A B C D chart is?  I'm not quite following the chart and understanding the progression used.   Anyone care to explain?  A simple explanation of how to use this method and progression would be most appreciated.   Thanks again. 

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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 16, 2009, 02:11:20 AM
yeah same here i am very confuse with this progressive ....

if you lose A level then go B level... but after you lose A levl you are already so behind.. and how can you recover with B level with starting bet is so small


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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 16, 2009, 12:18:21 PM
yeah same here I am very confuse with this progressive ....

if you lose A level then go B level... but after you lose A levl you are already so behind.. and how can you recover with B level with starting bet is so small


thanks



It's possible, with say a $20,000 stake at a $10 table, to "indefinitely" do just a tiny bit better than "treading water".

But it will take 20 years to double up or lose it.  (And the chance of losing it all is that much greater, because of the additional games by it.)

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Re: 2+capping with delayed progression
September 18, 2009, 01:00:49 AM


It's possible, with say a $20,000 stake at a $10 table, to "indefinitely" do just a tiny bit better than "treading water".

But it will take 20 years to double up or lose it.  (And the chance of losing it all is that much greater, because of the additional games by it.)

I agree with you. that is why I spent the summer trying to find better ways to play the capping systems. But sadly I think the neural progression works the best, that is why I have given up on the whole idea and moved on. There is no way that I am ever going to play that progression.