Electronic roulette (rng's)

[birkin86]

has anybody got any systems that work for the electronic roulette machine you see in the local bookies or online

[arigazzo]

hi friend,

welcome to forum!

well...i uploaded one system i found here for you nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/77316657/RSW.pdf.html, i used it but just for a while, i haven't had time to test it throughtly...
during short test period, in 'fun mode', it made me some 'modest' winnings, but again i don't know if it's gonna work for a longer period or in 'real money'

i personally believe that it's not possible to beat rng casinos, because in fact they might not be rng at all, they can utilize different algorithms that after some period bring you down fast

hope this helps!

[Drogan]

That is AMAZING!!!!!

That is like HOLY GRAIL type stuff!

It really blew my mind how accurate this was.

I tried this for over 100 spins at Golden Palace and Platinum Players and it worked every time!  It is not as exact as the book says. But I played on Dozens and out of 100 spins it only went more than 10 spins 4 times. And it only went over the 11 spin progression once.

It went 13 spins only once, 11 spins once, and 10 spins twice. There was one time it went 8 spins into the progression, and a couple of 7s thrown in but the majority of times it went no more than 5, not only that about 75% of the time it went only 1 or 2 times. Truly incredible.

This had me scratching my head for hours.

Now keep in mind I was in "Play for Fun" mode, and it seems like every system I try wins when you are playing for fun.

I can't wait to try it on "Real Money".

Had I known about this yesterday, perhaps I wouldn't have blown my whole bankroll.

[roger]

Now keep in mind I was in "Play for Fun" mode, and it seems like every system I try wins when you are playing for fun.

I can't wait to try it on "Real Money".

you always win in fun moden because they want to make you hungry, and hope that you in real money mode take much more and spent more and more money.

[arigazzo]

I'm so happy you liked the sistem.

Yes indeed it can be very accurate at times, it worked for me also in fun mode, but I said I never tested it in 'real money' and for a LONG period of spins, and when I say long I mean 10.000 at least...
I got interested in trying to figure out that mysterious method left by Enygmist, so all this somehow got into shadow...and I never actually found time to cunduct throughout tests on that system.

So, try it, and if results are good let us all know, if not, let us all know again...I think it's in best intrest of all of us on this forum to help each other as much as we can.

Anlyizing stochastic (or random) process is one of the most difficult branches of math to deal with, it's definitley not easy to understand it (especially without strong math & statistics background), but I think it can shed us some more light on mysteries of 'the wheel'.

Best of luck and let us know how it's going.
But beware that online casinos with RNG are sometimes NOT random at all, if you start winning too much I think they have some algorithm that 'make up' the numbers so you simply start to lose, no matter what you do. That's why I personally always prefer webcam casinos, with LIVE wheel.

Best of luck!
[smiley=Santa001.gif]

[Drogan]

Ok, so after blowing my whole bankroll on Wednesday. I am back at it with my last $200. Using the Scholastic Process. At first I was amazed that it was so accurate in "Play for Fun" mode. But now I am even more pleased to announce that it works just as well on "Play for Real Money" mode.

Yes! You heard right. It works! I have turned my measly $200 bucks into $300 in about an hour at Golden Casino with $1 dollar bets.

I have been so busy with Christmas stuff I have not had a chance to play. On Friday I made my deposit and I tried the method for about 4 rounds. And I thought: "WoW! This really works." Then I thought to myself don't get so excited yet. You have only played a couple of rounds for a couple of minutes.

Today I tried again. This time with plenty of time to try plenty of spins. I don't know how many spins I tried. But I won about 50. And it only took a max of 8 spins to win every bet. Keep in mind I am a conservative player, especially trying to protect my last $200, when I bet I let the first 2 spins miss and then I start my progression. So I guess technically it was a maximum of 10 spins to win. If anything I hurt myself by being so conservative. I will not bet before 2 misses. And there were many, many times that it hit the dozen I was betting on in 1 or 2 spins, so actually I could have won more.

Of course I know that a loss is inevitable. But my stop loss is $20. That is 10 spins. If my dozen doesn't come in by then I take the loss and move on. That hasn't happened yet, but I am going to prepare myself mentally for when it does.

I told you that I would let you know if this method works in "Real Money Mode" and these are my findings. I hope it works just as well for you.

If anyone has any questions I am available.

Merry Christamas from Atlanta GA.

[arigazzo]

great!

keep us updated on your progress, have you had any loss yet?

and one more question, if for instance you have the following last 4 numbers (a, b ,c ,d): 18, 27 20, 11 than test F1 fails, so you pass to formula F2, but result is -1.07 i.e. negative number.  8-)
How did you use to handle this situation during your play? Which dozen you play? Or you just skip that one spin??

Cheers and  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[Drogan]

Great questions!

I have in fact experienced my first loss tonight. As I have said before my stop-loss limit is 8 spins(or $58). And it did finally happen. I am kind of glad it did. That way I could get it out of my system. But it only happened once and I stayed on the grind. It took me a little while to recover the loss. But I finally reached my goal for the day.

I am at $500 now! This method is truly something! I wish I wasn't so conservative I could have won alot more by now. It's just my nature.

"and one more question, if for instance you have the following last 4 numbers (a, b ,c ,d): 18, 27 20, 11 than test F1 fails, so you pass to formula F2, but result is -1.07 I.e. negative number.  
How did you use to handle this situation during your play? Which dozen you play? Or you just skip that one spin??"

Simple answer:   Just forget that it is a negative number. Your target is 1. Just start your progression on the first dozen. It will come in.

Or if it is more simple...look at F2 in reverse:

instead of 70.5-121=-50.5/47=-1.07 try it the other way around  121-70.5=50.5/47=1.07

See? It's the same outcome just without the negative sign. Don't let that negative throw you off. Your target number is still 1.

The only time I skip any spin is if 0 is D. I don't like that. I would prefer that all four numbers be whole numbers. The formula still works when 0 is D, that is just my preference.

Good luck.

[bobco]

Hi Drogan,
What progression you use? This is interesting even if it's RNG play. I notice you bet different than how it's supposed to play but you seem to do well. I have tried it for fun but just a few times. What takes time is the calculation. That sucks! Should be an easier way.
Would be interesting to hear more about your play.
Good luck!

[arigazzo]

as for calculation, you can always make simple Excel spreadsheet that will do the calcs for you, you just put in the numbers.
just an idea  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[Drogan]

Bobco,

Yes, you are right. The calculation takes time but the outcome is well worth it.

As to what progression I use it is just a simple dozen progression. 1-2-3-4-6-9-13-20. My stop-loss limit is $20. I don't bet like it says in the book. I just bet on the dozen not the actual number. And I make sure that it misses the dozen that I am betting on(without betting)at least twice before I lay down my first bet. Yes my winnings are small and yes it takes time but I don't know of another system that is as accurate as this. It makes the grind worth all the effort.

Agraz,

I have actually thought of doing a spreadsheet. It will make it a lot easier. Unfortunately, I am not very good with Excel. If you would like to help come up with one just PM me. I'm game!

[arigazzo]

I feel this may be useful to everyone, so I'll post it here.

I proudly present  [smiley=cool.gif] Excel sheet that makes callculations with the system a lot more easier - you just plug in the numbers and get what you need to play according to the book  [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/79287297/HolyGrail__smiley_.xls.html

Enjoy!

Cheers!

[cps10]

Thank you arigazzo!

[Lohnro]

Nice work arigazzo. Thanks for sharing .

[bobco]

Thanks arigazzo but for some reason the Excel sheet don't work. Or it's only for me. It open up but you can't put new numbers into it? When click on 'open for editing' it says cannot find any version of Microsoft Excel to open this file for editing.
Can you others get it to work?
Thanks

[bobco]

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