Electronic roulette (rng's)

[Drogan]

Ari,

This is perfect! This will save alot of time.

I haven't been able to play the last day or so, but I will use it as soon as I can.



Would love to hear some success stories and any variations of play from the other players that are using this system.

[cps10]

I need to read through this system in order to understand it fully. I am still hazy on the bet selection.

[arigazzo]

hi,
well no one answered, so i think it's probably just for you...
try installing newer version of Microsoft Office/Excel, this file was created with version 2002.
if it still doesn't work, i can try re-creating it as readable for some of older versions (like 97 or something)

[Lohnro]

Works fine for me arigazzo. Not the worst system in the world either!!

[cps10]

How's testing going Lohnro? I am going to utilize the spreadsheet and see if it works well.

[bobco]

hi,
well no one answered, so i think it's probably just for you...
try installing newer version of Microsoft Office/Excel, this file was created with version 2002.
if it still doesn't work, i can try re-creating it as readable for some of older versions (like 97 or something)

Hi arigazzo,
No, still don't work for me even if I have the Microsoft Excel viewer 2003. There is some Office version 2007 but that one was not for free.
If it's not too much work maybe you can make an older version.
Thanks

[cps10]

I have found this system to have some merit as well. Sometimes, you would need to incorporate a long progression, but that's not a bad thing to have.

The longest stretch I have had that was losing was 15 spins which in my progression is only a 282-unit drawdown, which is very palatable, especially when playing $1 units.

I just finished a set of 225 spins, even though the system says don't play for more than 50 minutes or 60 spins, or whatever it was, and the final tally (after a loss 156 units because the table ended) was +349 units, which is impressive, especially against this group of numbers.

I have been playing the individual numbers instead of corners, just because it is easier, and double-covering the "predicted" number just seems foolish at best.

I have also found that there are some selection criteria that need to be used when certain numbers are incorporated in the spreadsheet:

(1) What to do when the formula tells you to play top or bottom line numbers.

- for instance, if "1" is advised to play. What do you do? Do you play 1,2,4,5? Do you play 1,2,3,4,5,6? What about 0,00,1,2,3? Or 0,00,1,2,3,4,5,6?

I would be inclined to include as many numbers as possible in order to get your hits quickly. I would advise AGAINST excluding 0 and/or 00 when playing these top line numbers of 1,2,3. Just my personal style.

With the bottom line numbers...I would probably be inclined to just play the bottom line (31,32,33,34,35,36) just to get good coverage of those as well.

(2) What about 2nd column numbers?

- this is a tricky situation. Let's say the prediction is the number "14". Which corners would you be using?

The 10,11,13,14 & 11,12,14,15? Or the 13,14,16,17 & 14,15,17,18? I have found that each of them hits on there, sometimes one quicker than the other. Another situation where I would probably go for both sides, which means that you would at this point be playing 3 streets: 10-12, 13-15 & 16-18.

(3) When doing these "alternative bets" when there is no clear cut 1st or 3rd column play, how do approach these hybrids?

- do you continue to bet on straight up numbers? or,

- in situation 1, do you bet the "basket bet" of 0,00,1,2,3 and get less money for your play? or do you do a 0/00 split and 1-3 street? or do you bet the basket plus the street of 4-6? or do you do a 0/00 split plus the line of 1-6?

- in situation 1 with the bottoms, you could do a line bet from 31-36 to save bankroll

- in situation 2, do you do 3 streets, or a line + street bet?

In all situations, I could set up progressions for all. I could do a base and an aggressive for both.

Personally, in these strange criteria, I would always opt for "MORE IS BETTER!"

[Lohnro]

This has been working surprisingly well. I know nothing about the mathematical Stochastic-Process.  [smiley=shocked.gif] But I do not understand why it works using the table layout instead of the wheel layout. I think the wheel layout would or SHOULD work better??

To answer some of cps questions as to how "I" have been testing:

(1) What to do when the formula tells you to play top or bottom line numbers.

- for instance, if "1" is advised to play. What do you do? Do you play 1,2,4,5? Do you play 1,2,3,4,5,6? What about 0,00,1,2,3? Or 0,00,1,2,3,4,5,6?

When 1 is advised I play only 1,2,4,5 and the 1,0 split. Do you have a "conservative" progression for that?

I would be inclined to include as many numbers as possible in order to get your hits quickly. I would advise AGAINST excluding 0 and/or 00 when playing these top line numbers of 1,2,3. Just my personal style.

With the bottom line numbers...I would probably be inclined to just play the bottom line (31,32,33,34,35,36) just to get good coverage of those as well.

(2) What about 2nd column numbers?

- this is a tricky situation. Let's say the prediction is the number "14". Which corners would you be using?

The 10,11,13,14 & 11,12,14,15? Or the 13,14,16,17 & 14,15,17,18? I have found that each of them hits on there, sometimes one quicker than the other. Another situation where I would probably go for both sides, which means that you would at this point be playing 3 streets: 10-12, 13-15 & 16-18.

I play the 3 single streets 10,11,12 13,14,15 & 16,17,18. What "conservative" progression would you use for that?

[arigazzo]

@bobo

try to open this one. if it still doesn't work, you may need to install full version of MS Excel, not just viewer. just a guess.

nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/79967092/HolyGrail__smiley_97.xls.html

Cheers!

[pauljwpa]

hi guys have you been using this system on RNG or live wheel play [smiley=smiley.gif]

[bobco]

Yes, I had to install a full new version of Ms Excel. Now it works.   [smiley=smiley.gif]
Free for a while but if testing and tries shows good worth to buy it.
Thanks for your help arigazzo

[roger]

Well, i was sceptical at firts but todat i tought 'lets give it a try'
i logged in at dublin bet account and started playing and i used the exel sheet, at first a started playing the numbers but i soon found out thats not going to work for me.
So started to play the dozens (yes i like to play the dozens   ) and i'm amazed how good i went after one hour of play i was 300 units up and most of the time it hit the dozen within 3 times.
i played in fun mode (but at dublinbet thats the same as for real)
so i gonne test this system for some serious time next week ans see how it goes then.
i'll be back.  :-? :-? :-/ [smiley=tongue.gif]

[cps10]

@ Lohnro - I am working on all particular progressions right now. Once I finish them, I will either post them directly, or I will solicit email addresses so I can send the spreadsheet over.

[arigazzo]

Played a bit with the system last night (in real money mode), and stupidly lost 20eur.

My initial bankrool was 20e, I was in plus let's say 16e (total 36e), and than suddenly came one 11 long streak of misses, and I lost everything using dozen progression.
Probably this system needs bigger bankrool, or I will try with 25c chips, cuz I don't have more money for now  
Anyone expirienced recurrent and/or very long streaks of misses?

Happy New Year!  [smiley=Santa001.gif]

[bobco]

Hi arigazzo,
I also played with this using the dozen progression. It came up to 10 losses in row once so I almost lost some money. After that I stopped and think that it can as well go on with longer losing streaks.  I play with small units, 0.25 euro. But I think the program detect how you play and make you to lose. The thing to prevent this could be a long progression. Maybe it will work better for live roulette. I don't know. I noticed it hit quite often the number beside so maybe play 2 number  could be something. Or include the number itself so it would be 3. Again a progression would be necessary. I don't think flatbetting is possible. I don't know if there's a way to beat the RNG. The good thing is that the play goes quick.  
Happy new year!   [smiley=beer.gif]  

[bobco]

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