Herb's (Snowman) Testing of my computer

[Herb6]

Please stop with the name calling fellas. Ken

Ken,
You wrote the above, after you had the nerve to post what was written below. 
Now. do you seriously believe they are going to listen to you or respect you as a moderator?
Think again!   
It's beyond me as to why Steve would have you as a moderator.  It definitely doesn't reflect well on him or his methods and products that he is offering for sale. 
Since Steve believes you are such a good moderator, he should have you test his computer for him.
Your credibility should really boost his sales.
Be sure to send him your address soon.

kj smooth Posted: 19-Oct-10 13:31  Delete     Edit

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Shit cant be saved, only squashed and stepped on. Thats you Sownjob, one big pile of LYING bullshit. Ken
kj smooth Posted: 23-Oct-10 03:09  Delete     Edit

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"Where have you been?" >>> At your sisters house, f*****g her. Ken
kj smooth Posted: 23-Oct-10 18:26  Delete     Edit

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She even said I f****d her better than you did!!
Ken

[Steve]

Herb,

1. You said "At this point in time I have zero interest in testing Steve's computer as long as Mr. J is a moderator on this forum.". You have been evasive since day one, mostly just ignoring my requests for your shipping address. Ken hasnt put a foot wrong as mod. Not to offend you at all, but before you criticize another moderator for doing something wrong when your accusations are unfounded, consider your own moderation of GG, which is know to be pretty much unmoderated - even on a CLOSED forum. Among other things you even allowed Howe to post under hijacked accounts when it was so incredibly obvious.

2. I have asked you again and again and again for your shipping address for the roulette computer. You ignored my requests. Why you did this has nothing to do with ken - you were doing it since before he was mod. I have watched you avoid testing, while claiming you are not avoiding it. There have been numerous people contacting me privately telling me this is how it seems.

3. You have blatantly breached forum rules, including but not limited to hijacking threads, reversing moderator changes, repeatedly, when you started the thread and repeatedly ignoring my requests to keep your conflict with ken at GG - but even after infringing posts of yours were removed, you re-posted them. You have attacked ken and brought the conflict here, despite my many requests to avoid this. You were banned from vls before I was admin for various unacceptable behavior. Regardless of unfinished business with you, I've reinstated the ban from before I was admin.

4. It does not require experience to click a button and report results. Ronjo already did that. He is well known to have integrity. He doesn't have enemies and is neutral. Also you say you dont know any of my computer players. Perhaps that's because 99% of them adhere to the NDAs they sign. As you know, I was going to send you latest versions of forester's FFA for comparative testing, and one of my versions.

And for the record, @ Kelly, as I said many times, I have no interest in showing everything my computers are capable of. Why would I be? I was only ever interested in refuting false claims

[GogoCro]

I do not understund why you want to test your computers in such way, I mean who care? Maybe potential buyers but you do not sell computers any more, do you? And I know what you said, to refute lies..but its all in vain..IMO

[Steve]

Gogo, why test them publicly?

1. To get more partners

2. People that take the time to visit me are for sure more serious players, especially ones that travel overseas. Generally international travelers who visit me and have a team ready are virtually assured of partnership, which means free roulette computers.

3. I do sell computers still - $30,000 for latest version. One of the earlier versions will be free soon because it is just no comparison, but doesn't include firmware anyway which is needed unless you play on wheels that are ridiculously easy to beat. I am not anywhere near as interested in sales because they are a one-time payment.

4. Refuting false claims

[Steve]

ps - 5 seats booked already. People need to move fast if they want to attend.

[Steve]

oops gogo I thought you were talking about the public demo. For the other testing, it was already done with ronjo.

[GogoCro]

Thanks Steve for answers, I understund.
Anyway, I would like to see result from challange if is still on.

[Steve]

For the online casino, challenge is still on - I have been too busy with important things though for now, but the account and all account history is not going anywhere.

For the roulette computer, I'm tired of asking again and again and again for herb's shipping address. For whatever reason, he has just been avoiding it. Several others have even contacted me privately to say this is. If he cant be reliable about such a simple thing, I can trust him to be reliable about anything else.

[Steve]

I'm not interested in herb. He broke forum rules and gave a ridiculous ultimatum asking me to ban ken.

Herb, I'll leave you with this.. anyone with a sound mind can review all the information, and see very clearly everything I've been saying is true. 100% of the system I teach is ballistic in nature, and while I teach traditional AP too, I teach methods beyond it.

As for the computer, you refused to give your shipping address. Many people contacted me privately to say it looks like you're doing all you can to avoid it. Who knows why . Nevertheless, Ronjo's testing is adequate.

[cheese]

Whats hilarious is, Herbie isn't basing his opinion of what you do on his testing of your computer or your methods, even though he had the opportunity to do so handed to him on a silver platter. Apparently, actual testing is beyond his limited capacities. Instead, he gets himself banned and then goes on GG and proclaims you to be a scammer, based on absolutely no testing whatsoever. This whole affair certainly casts a new light on Snowman and his 'experience' as a roulette expert. I'm starting to think Ken has been right about him all along. No wonder Snowman tried everything he could to shut him down, Ken had his number all along.

[Steve]

Yes, like I said: "But it doesn't matter to people that have other motives, like revenge for being banned for childish behavior"

[Steve]

Herb is deleting posts at GG and keeping his response, so I wont bother posting there further.

[Mr J]

yes ok

[Steve]

Understood ken. Like I dont hate howe, forester or bago either, but they despise me and why? Because they fall on their face with the truth, and as such, need to get all personal with things like publishing private information. I never resorted to that. It's only what sore losers do as a last resort. As for snowman/herb, only recently I started to see what you were on about with him - you were right. Anyway he's gone now.

[bombus]

Pity.

[bombus]

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