The 4Selecta system

[Mr Chips]

tucktuckster,
 
You understand the Group numbers so I will just show the numbers in the sections :
 
6
1
10
---
The first section completed, no bet, it provided the first available number 10 which is an LG. It is the first number in the list of available numbers.
 
24
22
20
2
---
The second section wanted an LG number in particular 10, as it is the only number available.
 
35
4
31
---
There was no LG in this third section and the only one it could possibly fit is C and numbers 2 and 10 are available.
 
31
36
33
---
 
The Table looks as follows :
 
LG   MG   HG   C
1      1
2      2.
 
LG and MG are equal, but MG is the 'active' Group section and the bet will be on available MG numbers.
 
22
35
5
---
 
MG is now in the lead.
 
23
18
11
---
This result will give the first C
 
32
4
18
2
---
MG is still in the lead in the Table and bets will be on 5, 31, 33
 
33
33
6
19
27
---
 
A N LIST
 
[2], 10, 11
 
5, 31, 33
 
27
 
Note: 2 is a two unit bet
 
LG   MG   HG  C
1     1           1
2     2           2
       3           3.
 
MG and C are equal. The 'active' Group section is C
 
Most results for this system are between spin 100 and 150.
 
Let me know if any of the above needs further clarification and I will get back to you.
 
Mr Chips
 

[Mr Chips]

Yes Sam one day

And also if it works why does it because A method needs something differant or special  for it  to over come the  casino edge  

Natural9,
 
You have posed an interesting question. It will require a complex answer. I am going to test this system for several months and if the results are the same then, as they are now then I will attept to answer your question. It will then be very relevant.

[Natural9]

When I fully understand it I will crunch a few numbers as well

[Mr Chips]

So far I have tested 58 spielbank sessions and 7 sessions have gone over 150 spins. I am not satisfied with all the results of these few sessions, as I think there may be better ways to deal with them. May be I am trying for perfection, but it falls short in the theme of the system.
 
I'll spend a few days looking at it and try and come up with an improvement.
 
This system is not set in stone and there could well be further improvements and suggestions are always welcome.
 
Mr Chips

[TwoCatSam]

Mr. Chips

I am attaching a sheet from today's action.  I think I have got my casino problem ironed out and things are looking up.

I was going to get you that 120 spins, but I hit my profit goal of 100 units in about six spins.  Actually won 126 units.

I think I've got the hang of it.  I cannot use the brackets so my notation of 4 by the 21 means 4 bets.

For Sam, good enough is good enough.  Perfection is a pipe dream.

Sam

[Mr Chips]

Sam,
 
Another good result. I have to point out you put 4 M at the beginning of your worksheet then made an error of 4 L further down and repeated it again. Also 32 H instead of 32 M.
 
Whenever you get a chance between selective spins, check the sections to make sure they are correct. As I have said before errors will correct themselves further on, but you could miss out on a hit!
 
4
36
32
---
19
34
1   -1
---
14
31
2
21  -2
---
2
23
35  -4
---
4
9
10  -6
---
4
22
31
24
12
21  -7
---
8
24
21  +68
---
17
20
32  +96
---
1
7
21  +94
---
 
A N LIST
 
[32]
 
1, [[[21]]], 10
 
35
 
LG   MG   HG   C
1      1           1
2                   2
3                   3
4.                  4
 
Mr Chips

[TwoCatSam]

How do I make so many mistakes??

Don't answer that!!

[Tucktuckster]

I like the logic in this - but my sessions are not long enough to do this justice.

in the short period of testing several things leapt out at me.

1) in a cycle of say 50 spins, we are likely to get 1 group - ie LG hit 1 or 0 times. There are also likely to be 2 groups that will dominate..... ie will hit more than others. Maybe just 1 group....

2) in a cycle of 50 odd spins we are likley to get 8 or 10 sleepers overall

Now - when looking at the reason why this one plays best in 100+ spins, i think it could be that it take a large number of spins to get any numbers to bet on.

what about this tweak.

track groups in same way - ie LG / HG etc.

However for numbers shown - rather than tracking the numbers that hit as group completes - ie a LG number - why dont we simply track all of the numbers that land into the groups.

so for example.

1
7
3

would be

1 LG
7 HG
3 LG


1,3,     -     7

then as the numbers progress, we might get

4
2

at which point, we would be looking for a LG since is dominating and so we play ALL of the LG numbers that have shown to date.

Why might this work - we are using the LG / HG as a means of selecting the group to attack and we are also eliminating all of the numbers not hit or the sleepers.

I have picked a session at random to test. was from 8th of last month i think and is 49 spins. I'll do a quick trial and see if this could be a variation for a shorter session....

[Tucktuckster]

24
4
20

= MG

24
16
30

= C

17
34
12

= HG

So after 9 - we have some numbers but none in lead. will let go for another pop and see the leader.

23
32
29

= MG

so   LG   MG    HG    C
             1       1     1
             2.

numbers

2,30,12,29            4,(24),23,32              16,17,34,

1
32
so we are looking for a middle group - so i think play MG numbers = all just 1u though

so play 4,24,23,32

26 = high group

so   LG   MG    HG    C
             1       1     1
             2              2.

numbers

2,30,12,29 ,1           4,(24),23,(32)              16,17,34,26

10,19 - both are low group. not dominating, not active so no bet

7

so   LG   MG    HG    C
        1.    1       1     1
             2               2
1,2,10,12,19,29,30        4,23,(24),(32)           7,16,17,26,34

32
9

no we have a dilema. a mg and a c. both are level. rather than mess around i am tempted to play both groups but last active was C so i will play them.

play the 7 numbers for a C.

25. so lose.

so   LG   MG    HG    C
        1    1       1     1
             2        2.    2
1,2,10,12,19,29,30        4,23,(24),((32))          7,9,16,17,25,26,34

-11.

now 29
16

so HG is our play - 7 numbers again.

13 lands. another C. they take lead.

-18

14,11,

so we need a high group number for a C. there are 7 of them.

its a 2. so a LG. this isnt going so well since groups not trending.

so   LG   MG    HG    C
        1    1       1     1
        2.    2       2    2
                             3
1,(2),10,11,12,19,(29),30        4,13,14,23,(24),((32))          7,9,(16),17,25,26,34

-25

next is an 8, then 25 = HG so no bet on this one
4
1,(2),10,11,12,19,(29),30        (4),13,14,23,(24),((32))          7,8,9,(16),17,(25),26,34

27
21

HG dominant and active - so play 9 nos

14. another Loss

C n ow dominant

34
17
= 2 high ones so no bet on
14

24
24

no bet
10

7
36
so no bet
12

pretty much out of time and its loss central.

a quick interesting observation.

every time we had first 2 spins from same group, we had a 3rd spin land that was from other 2 groups.

might be coincidence. might be timing. i have spent a lot of time looking at the dozens and you would expect longer runs than this?

[Mr Chips]

tucktuckster,
 
What you are suggesting is more than a tweak!
 
The 4Selecta system was designed to create sections of LG, MG, HG and C and develop a structured system to take advantage of various trends of Groups, numbers and accumulated hits, leading to positive results, especially in the 90 to 130 spin range.
 
In addition the structured system makes it possible in the majority of cases to have minimal losses within the -50 unit range.
 
The small number of losses in the -100 unit range is currently under review to find improvements.
 
Mr Chips

[TwoCatSam]

Mr. Chips

More later, but I am learning that when is a horse race and no Section is out in the lead, things tend to go bad.  When a Section has the lead and there are several numbers in the A N G, things go better.

Sam

Almost 150 spins.  Will try harder tomorrow.

[Natural9]

Mr. Chips

More later, but I am learning that when is a horse race and no Section is out in the lead, things tend to go bad.  When a Section has the lead and there are several numbers in the A N G, things go better.

Sam

Almost 150 spins.  Will try harder tomorrow.

Sam what was the outcome W/L

Regards Rodney

[TwoCatSam]

Rodney

I think it pulled within the -50 range there at the end.  Frankly, I had to hurry away so the cleaning lady could come and did not have time to finish.

I did notice that once the CG started to pull away, bets started winning.  Of course, CG has three groups of available number from which to choose.

Sam

[Mr Chips]

Sam,
 
Your latest work sheet was a very helpful contribution in helping me sort out the -100 range problem. Most times it will be possible to exit within the -50 range, which will always ensure a good profit.
 
25
4   -1
21  -2
23  -3
17  -5
24  -6
19  -9
4   -11
35  -15
22  -19
29  -22
14  -27
0   -32
3   -37
8   -42
29  -47
36  -52
4   -57
13  -62
1   -67
9   -73
32  -80
17  -88
6    -96
10  -105
6   -78
15  -88
23  -63
20  -74
32  -81
17  -93
35  -105
21  -117
23  -93
34 -106
32  -47 EXIT
 
I only found one discrepancy and that was at spin 107
 
9
11
32
 
I had it as wanting LG and not CG, it could be I slipped up.
 
Thanks
Mr Chips

[Natural9]

Not so bad then limit losses to increase winnings good motto to go by

[Natural9]

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