Kingspins Winstrike 4 ( fantastic)

[Kingspin]

WINSTRIKE 4
This is a system I so on another forum, the credit goes to john the legend for the original idea though, for this fantastic bet , I have re typed this and re named it winstrike 4. I have modified it slightly for a more playable system , the original system  designer says we must wait at least 20 spins after a win before re starting a new game , I wait 9 spins , it makes virtually no difference either way which method but my method works just as good and is faster with less waiting needed before a new game.
THE Method of play :-
1, Record spins in rows of three for one or more of the EVEN CHANCES until you have 9 spins. There must be NO ZERO in these nine. Example...

HLH-PATTERN 1
LLL
HLL--NINE SPINS NO ZERO.

2, You now bet against the FIRST PATTERN forming as the FOURTH PATTERN (SPINS 10-12)

3, Using the grand martingale over a three step progression as follows 1,3,7 or  standard martingale 1, 2, 4.

4, You play for ONE WIN from one to three steps, then STOP. don't play continuously
, allow at least 9 spins to pass before commencing a fresh game.
This has proved to be a  very good system on both tests and real money games. I think people will like this one for sure , it wins really good (usually).  (LEVEL 1), 2,4,8
Progression 2 method below
(LEVEL 1), 2,4,8

(LEVEL 2), 6,12,24--STARTING LEVEL

(LEVEL 3), 12,24,48

After a win on the first game OF EACH NEW DAY. I drop to level 1 stakes and play 4 more singular games.

After a loss at level 1 I jump to level 3 FOR ONE GAME. If the lost occurred on my FIRST GAME OF THE DAY LEVEL TWO STAKES (RARE) I jump to level 3 for two games.

[Antibet]

WINSTRIKE 4
This is a system I so on another forum , I have re typed this and re named it winstrike 4. I have modified it slightly for a more playable system , the original system  designer says we must wait at least 20 spins after a win before re starting a new game , I wait 9 spins , it makes virtually no difference either way which method but my method works just as good and is faster with less waiting needed before a new game.
THE Method of play :-
1, Record spins in rows of three for one or more of the EVEN CHANCES until you have 9 spins. There must be NO ZERO in these nine. Example...

HLH-PATTERN 1
LLL
HLL--NINE SPINS NO ZERO.

2, You now bet against the FIRST PATTERN forming as the FOURTH PATTERN (SPINS 10-12)

3, Using the grand martingale over a three step progression as follows 1,3,7 or  standard martingale 1, 2, 4.

4, You play for ONE WIN from one to three steps, then STOP. don't play continuosly, allow at least 9 spins to pass before commencing a fresh game.
This has proved to be a  very good system on both tests and real money games. I think people will like this one for sure , it wins really good (usually).  

Tested on random.org, 1000 spins showed some profit

[soggett]

That's PB4 from rouletteforum. cc

give credit to the founder of the system JL

[Kingspin]

The credit goes to JL for this yes.  I tried  a similar method but betting that the first pattern line of dozens (3 wide  matrix) does not re form on the fourth line , so i play the other 2 dozens on the fourth line spins 10 to 12 , this works really good too.

[seykid29]

Dont know why dont fancy such way of play,waiting for 10 or 20 spins to play..we all agree its random,why not track just 3,and play not to repeat or repeat depending on our taste..if its random,we are betting for a change and not really for that many High to balance the Lows..because 3,6,9, 99 random is random.
But if this is working fine for you why should you kick it.

[Jeromin]

the original system  designer says we must wait at least 20 spins after a win before re starting a new game , I wait 9 spins , it makes virtually no difference either way which method but my method works just as good and is faster with less waiting needed before a new game.

Well, if it is the case that 9 spins is a s good as 20, then after 9 spins one could start a first 3x3 matrix with one EC bet ( e.g. R/B ), then after 3 spins start a second matrix with another EC ( H/L ) and then after yet another 3 spins a third matrix with another EC (O/E ).
That way after the initial 9 spins, you are betting at least once every three pins, on alternating EC bets, no waiting.

Jeromin

[libertydog]

Did a test on this to see how long it could go before a loss.. 301 spins was the answer! not bad 

LLH
HLH
LHH 
HHH W

HHH
LLH 
LHH
LLH W

LHH
LHL
LHH
HHH W

HHL
HLL
HH0

LHH
LLH
LHH
LHL --W

LHL
LLH
HLL
LLL -W

LLH
LL0

LHL
HHH
HLL
LLH -W

HHH
HLH
LLH
HLL -W

HHL
LHH
LLH
HHH --W

HLL
LHH
LHH
LLH W

LHL
LHL
HLL
LHH W

LLL
HHL
LLH
LHH -W

LLH
LLL
LHL
0LL --W

L0

HHL
HLH
HLH
HLL -W

0

HLH
0

HHH
LLL
LHL
LLH W

HHH
HLL
HHL
LHL W

HHH
LLH
LHL
LHL W

HLL
HLL
HHH
HHH -W

HHL
LLL
LHH
HLH -W

LLH
LLL
HLL
LHL -W

0

HHL
LLH
HHL
LLH W

HHL
HHH
HHL
LLH W

H0

HHL
HLH
LHL
HLL -W

LHH
LHL
HLL
LHH L

[libertydog]

I'm wondering though seen as there are so little losses if it would be better going 1,2,3 and if in profit after that going 2,3,4 on the next game.... carrying on 3,4,5 - 4,5,6 then reset back to 1,2,3. and on any loss reset back to 1,2,3. would probably build up a fast bank without to much risk. just a thought.

[Kingspin]

Yep liberty I have hammered quite a few casino's out of money thanks to this system , money never came so easy as this

Getting bored of winning lol  

My advice is to play only the high / low only do not play any other of the even chances with this method , for unknown reasons it works much better high / low only. Some one on another forum mentioned playing 3 even chances at the same time , I tried this and it sucked . lost quickly. That progression you posted would probably work really good libertydog i will try it on real money games.

[Kagatori]

Hi  Kingspin.  How far into your martingale progression do u have to go? Just wondering if you could use flat bets so as not risk yout bank roll?

[Kingspin]

I am winning most games on the first or second leg , not often have I hit the last leg. I play 1 3 7 .  I personally would not enjoy flat betting this. I only play with £1 chips so progression suits me. Maybe some one playing with bigger chips say £10 upwards might be worth trying yes. I think a 1.   2   4   8  16  32 would win a hell of a lot of games with this system.

1. 2 . 4.  Progression  for first game.  Say we lose then next game we go for 8 16 32. All or nothing lol 

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We have many old topics regarding this here at VLS roulette.
I would say 113 witch is 5 units.

I fool around with 12 one of each pattern to have a show before playing imbalance using three bets.

WWWWLLWLLWLLWWWWWWW LLL WW

Four formations.

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1   1   1
2   1   1
1   1   2
1   2   1 TRIGGER

1   1   1
1   2   1
1   1   1 W

2   2   2
1   1   2
2   2   1
1   2   1 TRIGGER

2   1   2
1   2   1 W

2   1   2
2   2   2
1   2   2
1   1   2 TRIGGER

1   2   2
1   2   2 W
2   2   2
1   1   2
2   1   1
1   2   2
1   2   2
2   2   1
1   1   1
2   2   2
1   1   1
2   2   2
1   2   1
2   2   2
1   1   1

2   2   1
2   2   2
2   1   1
1   2   1 TRIGGER

1   2   1
2   2   2
2   1   2 W
2   1   1
2   1   1
2   2   2
1   1   2
2   2   2
2   1   2
2   2   2
1   2   1
1   1   1
2   1   2

1   1   1
2   2   1
2   1   2
1   2   2 TRIGGER

2   2   1
1   1   1 L
2   1   2
2   1   2 LW
2   1   2
2   1   1
1   2   1
2   1   1
1   2   2
1   1   1
1   1   2
1   2   2
1   1   2
1   2   2
1   2   2
2   2   1
2   1   2
1   2   1
2   2   1
2   2   2
1   1   1
2   2   1
1   2   2
2   1   1
1   2   1
1   2   2

2   1   1
2   2   1
2   2   2
1   2   1 TRIGGER

2   1   2
1   1   2
2   2   2 L
2   1   2 LW
1   2   1
1   1   1
1   2   1
1   2   1

2   1   1
1   2   1
2   2   2
1   1   2 TRIGGER

2   1   1
2   1   2 L
1   2   1
2   1   2
1   1   1 LW

1   1   2
2   1   1
1   1   1
2   1   2 TRIGGER

2   1   1
2   2   2
2   2   2 W
1   2   2
2   2   2
2   1   1
2   2   1  
1   1   1  
2   1   1
1   2   2
1   2   2  
1   1   1
2   2   2  
1   1   2  
1   2   2
2   2   2  
1   1   1  
1   1   1
1   2   2
1   2   1

2   1   2
2   2   2
1   2   2
2   2   1 TRIGGER

2   2   2
2   1   2
1   1   1 W
2   1   2
1   2   2
2   2   2
2   2   2  
1   1   2
1   2   1
2   2   1  
2   2   1
2   1   2
2   1   1
2   2   2
1   1   1
1   1   1
1   1   2
1   1   2
2   1   2
2   2   1
1   1   2
2   2   2
1   1   2
2   1   2
1   2   1
1   1   1
1   2   1
2   2   2
1   2   2
2   2   2
2   2   1

1   1   2
2   2   2
2   1   1
1   2   1 TRIGGER

1   1   2
2   1   1
1   2   2 W
1   2   2
1   1   1
1   1   2
1   2   1
1   1   2
2   2   1
2   1   1
2   1   2
1   1   1
1   2   2
1   2   2

1   2   2
2   1   1
1   1   1
1   2   1 TRIGGER

2   1   1
1   2   2 W
2   2   2
2   2   1
2   2   1
1   1   1
2   1   2
1   2   1
1   1   1
2   2   1
1   1   1
2   2   1
2   2   1
1   2   2
1   2   2
2   1   2
1   2   2
2   2   1
1   1   2

1   1   2
2   1   1
1   1   1
1   1   2
2   2   1
2   1   1
2   2   1
1   2   2
1   2   2
1   2   1
1   1   1
2   2   2
1   2   1
2   1   1
1   2   2
2   2   2
1   2   2
2   1   1

2   1   2
2   1   1
1   1   1
2   2   1 TRIGGER

1   2   1
2   1   2 W
1   1   2
2   1   2
1   2   1
1   2   2
2   2   1
1   1   2
2   1   1
1   2   2
1   2   2
2   1   1
1   1   2
2   1   1

2   2   1
2   2   2
2   1   1
2   1   2 TRIGGER

2   2   1
2   1   1
2   1   1 W
2   1   1
2   2   1
2   2   1
1   1   2
2   2   2

2   2   2
1   1   2
2   1   2
1   2   2 TRIGGER

1   1   1
2   1   2
2   2   1 L
2   1   1 LL TRIGGER

2   1   2
2   1   2 W
1   2   1
2   1   1
1   2   2
1   2   2
2   1   2
1   2   1
2   1   1
1   1   1
2   1   2
1   1   1
2   1   2
1   1   1
2   2   1
1   1   1
2   2   2
2   1   1
2   1   1
2   1   1
2   2   2
1   1   1

1   2   2
1   1   2
2   2   2
2   1   2 TRIGGER

1   2   1
2   2   1
2   1   2 W
2   1   2
2   1   2
1   1   1
1   1   1
2   1   2
2   1   2
2   1   1
1   1   1
1   1   1
2   2   1
2   2   1
1   2   2
1   2   2
2   2   2
1   1   2


W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4
L  1 +3
L  1 +2
W 1 +3
L  1 +2
L  1 +1
W 1 +2
L  1 +1
L  1 +0
W 1 +1
W 1 +2
W 1 +3
W 1 +4
W 1 +5
W 1 +6
W 1 +7

L 1 +6
L 1 +5
L 1 +4

W 2 +6
W 1 +7

We place 2 units as highest bet once.

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Here is one old topic about the principal of 1/3 nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/even-chances-system-%28variation-Steve-morgan%29/

I am sure this fail and tank like all other systems - but I just having fun posting about it.

The first thing I want you to do is to think a little different regarding the permanence.

If you try to write down the first red you see and then the next two outcomes that follows, you would get this result.

Lets take a look at a random walk.

BBBRBRBBBB

If you take the first red here and write it down you have:

R

Now you write down the two outcomes that follow red like this:

RBR

Now we have done what I told you that we was going to do.

Now lets take a look at this and continue with this simple rule about how to gathering the permanence.

BBBRBRBBBBRRBBBRBRBBRRRRBBRBB

As you can see we get this patterns and everyone begins with a red outcome and the two that follows.

RBR RRB RBR RRR RBB RBB

This is the cycle for all the possibilities.

RRR
RRB
RBR
RBB

This is the foundation the basics.

Now we are going to make some combination regarding this patterns that are base upon series of 3.

Now we are going to make this patterns become 9 like this RRRRRBRBR or RBRRBBRRB.

I will do that later ok, for now I just want to tell you the basics. Lets continue.

The second rule now is that every time we have a red we will play only for two decisions like this.

RBB then we play RR
RBR then we play RB
RRR then we play BB
RRB then we play BR

Now think.

Here we go if we have a 12 step progression and patterns of 9 then you add the things I told you, we will playing against this

RRR RRB RBR RRR RRB RBR RRR RRB RBR  

This is what we would bet against patterns of 27.

Pattern - RRR RRB RBR RRR RRB RBR RRR RRB RBR  

RBB RR
RBR RB      
RRR BB            
RBR LW
RRR BB      
RBR RB
RRB BR      
RBR W      
RBB RR      
RBR RB                  
RBR RB                  
RBB LL            
RRR W
RBR RB            
RRR BB            
RBR RB                    
RRR W                  
RBB RR        
RBR RB
RRB BR            
RRR W      
RRR BB
RRB BR
RBB RR
RBR W      
RRR BB      
RBB RR
RRB BR
RBR W
RBB
RBB
RBB
RBB
RBR
RRR                  
RRR      
RRR
RBR      
RRR

LW Registry - LWWLLWWWWW

Here it is if we list all the patterns of 9 and play them regarding your method it would become random against random.

We can try this if you want and try to overcome 500.000 trails. Here is a chart from an old method



Well we can make it extreme and use a 14 step Marty a like and play against 30 that would be a lot of fun

Here is a short test and as you can see there would not be any need to make a progression that win at every step becuse they will shop and generat profits for the long run  8-)

LW Registry

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Random aginst Random

RBB RR 050101 T1
RBR RB      
RRR BB Play aginst RBBRBRRRR - RBBRBRRRR - RBBRBRRRR using RR RB BB RR RB BB            
RBR LW
RRR BB      
RBR RB
RRB BR Play aginst RRRRBRRRB - RRRRBRRRB - RRRRBRRRB using BB RB BR BB RB BR      
RBR W      
RBB RR      
RBR RB                  
RBR RB Play aginst RBBRBRRBR - RBBRBRRBR - RBBRBRRBR using RR RB RB RR RB RB                  
RBB LL            
RRR W
RBR RB            
RRR BB            
RBR RB                    
RRR W                  
RBB RR        
RBR RB
RRB BR            
RRR W      
RRR BB
RRB BR
RBB RR
RBR W      
RRR BB      
RBB RR
RRB BR
RBR W
RBB RR
RBB RR
RBB RR
RBB LL
RBR LW
RRR BB                  
RRR BB      
RRR BB
RBR W      
RRR BB
RRB BR
RBB RR      
RRR LL
RBB W
RBR RB
RRR BB      
RBR RB            
RBB LW
RBB RR      
RBR RB      
RBR RB
RBB LL
RBB LW
RBR RB
RRR BB
RRB BR                        
RRR W
RRB BR                        
RRB BR
RBB RR
RRB LL
RBR W
RRR BB
RRB BR            
RRR BB
RRB LW      
RRB BR
RBB RR
RRB BR 050102 T1
RBR W
RRR BB
RBR RB            
RBB RR
RRR LL            
RRR W            
RRB BR      
RRB BR
RBR RB
RBB W
RBR RB
RRB BR                        
RRR BB      
RRB W
RBR RB
RRR BB
RBB RR
RBB LW
RBB RR
RBR RB
RRB BR
RRR W
RBB RR
RRB BR
RRB BR            
RBB LL
RBB W
RRB BR
RBB RR
RRB BR
RBB W
RRR BB
RBR RB
RBB RR
RBR W
RRR BB      
RBR RB
RBR RB                  
RBB W
RRR BB                  
RRB BR
RBR RB
RRB LW
RRR BB      
RRR BB
RRB BR      
RRB LW            
RBR RB      
RRR BB
RBR BR      
RBB LW
RBR RB
RBR RB      
RRB BR      
RBB LW      
RBB RR      
RBB RR ---
RRB RR 050103 T1      
RRB W      
RBB RR
RBB RR
RBB RR
RBB LL
RBB LL
RRR W
RRR BB            
RBR RB      
RRB BR                        
RBR W      
RRB BR                  
RBB RR      
RBB RR
RBR W
RRR BB            
RRR BB                  
RBB RR      
RRB LW      
RRB BR                  
RBB RR      
RRB BR            
RRR LW                  
RBR RB      
RBR RB
RBB RR
RRB W
RRB BR            
RBR RB
RBR RB
RBR W
RRB BR      
RRB BR      
RBB RR
RRR LW            
RRR BB                        
RBB RR      
RRB BR                  
RBB W
RBB RR
RRR BB            
RRB BR            
RBR LW
RBB RR
RRR BB      
RRB BR                              
RBR LW      
RBB RR
RRR BB            
RRR BB            
RRR W            
RBB RR
RRR BB
RBR RB      
RBB LL
RBR W
RRR BB            
RBR RB
RBB RR 050104 T1
RBB W
RBB RR
RBR RB
RRR BB      
RRB W
RBR RB
RBB RR
RBB RR
RBR LL
RRR W      
RBB RR
RBB RR
RBB RR
RRR W
RRB BR      
RRR BB
RRR BB
RBR W
RRR BB
RRR BB
RBB RR
RBB W
RRR BB
RBB RR      
RBR RB
RRR LL      
RBR LW
RRR BB
RRR BB
RBR RB
RBB W
RBB RR
RRB BR
RBR RB      
RBB LL
RRB LL
RRB W      
RRB BR
RRR BB
RRB BR
RBR W
RRR BB
RRB BR
RBB RR
RBB W
RRR
RBR                                          

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Its is an illusion to think that you have to win at every step using a progression.

The first thing you should do is to start with 111 after that you can progress and increase your bets.
Like 1 1 1 2 3 5 and so on because you don´t want to force your self, your BR or the bet selection to gain
a profit. You should let the disperation / consentration of hits to generate a profit.

L 1
W 1
W 1 +1
L 1
L 1
W 1 +0
W 1
W 1
W 1
W 1 +4
L 1
L 1
L 1
W 2 +3
W 1 +4
L 1
L 1
W 1 +3
L 1
W 1
L 1
L 1
L 1
W 2 +2
W 1 +3
L 1
L 1
W 1 +2
L 1
W 1
W 1 +3
L 1
L 1
W 1 +2
W 1
W 1 +4
L 1
W 1
W 1 +5
L 1
L 1
W 1 +4
W 1
W 1
W 1 +7
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
W 1 +8
L 1
L 1
L 1
L 2
W 3 +6
W 1
W 1 +8
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
W 1
W 1 +10
L 1
W 1
W 1 +11
L 1
W 1
L 1
W 1
W 1 +12
L 1
L 1
W 1 +11
W 1
W 1 +13
L 1
L 1
W 1 +12
W 1
W 1
W 1 +15
L 1
L 1
L 1
W 2 +14
W 1 +15
L 1
L 1
L 1
L 2
W 3 +13
W 1
W 1 +15

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If we would pick the first example then we would play against 6 cycles of perfect balance using a 15 step fibo - with would work as a step latter where you move down on even or +1 and at - you move up.

This is just old garbage from 2008

1. 1
2. 1
3. 1
4. 2
5. 3 play until even or +1 move down two steps
6. 5
7. 8
8. 13 play until even or +1 move down two steps
9. 21
10. 34
11. 55 play until even or +1 move down two steps
12. 89
13. 115 lose half bankroll
14. lose half bankroll
15. lose half bankroll

16. Ops lady luck give you one kiss and Hugh

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