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[System] Wheel Sector Play

Started by Advantage.Player, November 30, 2007, 11:31:56 PM

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Advantage.Player

Here it goes - my system that I used on Dublin bet with fun tokens and real life outcomes that landed em 10K with out losing!

My total profit was 14k and 80% of that was done with roulette and then 90% of that 80% was done with this system - so that's ~10,000 Profit and to date and I haven't had a loss using this method.

You start out by getting a picture of a roulette wheel. We are going to play dozens ON THE WHEEL - a 12-group sector.

Watch 25 spins on the wheel and the expected value (yes I like my maths  ;) is Number of trials x Probability of success.

So [25 X (12/37)] gives us 8.108.

This means we should expect 8 hits on a dozen IF roulette was perfect.

But as it is not so we must take fluctuation and deviations from the expected value into account.

This is where standard deviation (I love that word :D ) comes into play.

Standard Deviation is calculated by multiplying the probability of success by the probability of failure by the number of trials and then square rooting the whole thing.

So [(12/37) X (25/37) X 25] ^0.5 (remember that bringing a number to the power of a half is the SAME as square rooting it)

This gives us a standard deviation of 2.341.

Now standard deviation works like this - ~68% of statistics fall between the expected value minus one standard deviation and the expected value plus one standard deviation.

Now ~95% of outcomes fall between the expected value and Plus/minus 2 standard deviations.

And ~99.7% of outcome fall between the expected value and plus/minus 3 standard deviations – we will use this one.

So our expected value is 8.108 and 8.108 minus 3 times 2.341 is 8.108 - 7.023 = 1.085.

This means that if a dozen (12 number sector) of the wheel has equal to or less than 1 hit is it far bellow what is expected.

So this means it will be hitting more than expected in the near future (future being the next 25 to 50 spins).

And this "hitting more then expected" HAS to happen because all random probability distribution (hence roulette) follows a bell curve graph that peaks in the middle where our expected value is.

So we Chart he numbers the wheel spins up on a picture of the roulette wheel. So tally up all the hit next to the corresponding number. Then we "MAKE" a dozen.

This is where we try to find a sector with 1 hit if possible. MOST of the time it looks good until the last 3 spins where the number that comes up adds 1 more hit to my potential dozen - use this as a "signal" to show that sector is waking up.

Now write the numbers on a piece of paper from your chosen sector in ASCENDING ORDER - getting larger.

This is so that betting is far easier. Now play that 12 number sector (the sector with around 1 - 2 hits after 25 spins) for the next 25 spins with FLAT BETS.

If you reach the the 25 spins and still you have made no profit you then play for another 15 - 25 spins on top of the original 25. You must be careful here and that is why i've offered a range to play within - that is because if you play into the 2nd lot of 25 spins the profit will peak at around your 35 - 50th spin - and its up to you when to quit - this is because our dozen has been hitting more than expected and soon will be hitting less; so you call the shots here.

Now this is how I've played and made 10K on Dublin bet using real roulette wheel numbers that were spun while I was playing. And I have NEVER LOST.

The worst case is where after the 50 spins I played for (went into the second lot of 25) and I came out with only $100 profit. But still I didn't lose. On better occasions it was anywhere between 500 - 1.8k profit made using a TEN DOLLAR FLAT BET ON TWELVE NUMBERS.

So this system has proven itself to me as a winner.

Depending on your playing style you may not like having to place 12 bets on specific number each time the wheel is spun but you can go to an online (Live) casino and have repeat bets on...your choice.

Dublinbet.com is good for this.

Also many other systems say to "stop while ahead" but I've had a real eye opener yesterday on the net while looking up stuff on roulette.

One guy said, "...stopping while ahead in roulette is like traveling on a hilly road to the ultimate destination - you can choose to rest on the hills or valleys but you are still going to the same place..."

And the more I think of it he was correct - 100% if you need to "stop while ahead" then you should question your strategy, after all you may be traveling the road to empty your bank into the casino pocket :D

So I put this to the test - I tried my system non-stop for 3 - 4 days on Dublin bet. Good thing I'm on school holidays.

I played around 3 games per day for 4 days. Didn't lose at all. Made 10K, Had 1 hard match and only made 100 bucks profit.

So I think my system does not require the stop while ahead trick - the longer you play the more money you make. I found this out on the 5 day and though stuff it I've made Lota money, the system works, so I blew it all on other random games to just see how pathetic they are - LOL at slots; Texas hold em was fun but not a guaranteed

Advantage.Player

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win.

Any way that's enough from me.

Please ask questions, as I want you to fully understand it and have success like I did.

Later on I will provide an example – show you numbers, which sector I was betting on and profit made / lost per spins, etc... But, later as I have to go now.

NOTE: Once we decide to play on a particular dozen we wait in virtual play until it hits, then we start betting on it as according.

Advantage.Player

Here it goes...

This is a game of Dublin Bet, which I played today.

After charting my sector chosen is the numbers between and including 22, 18, 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26, 0, 32 and 15
Watching now on: 0, 3, 7, 12, 15, 18, 22, 26, 28, 29, 32, and 35(In ascending order).

20
5
34
2
30
24
30
5
1
30
34
28

We hit our sector on that last number so now we bet.

Starting Balance #6,803.05 – Now I start betting on my Sector @ $10 Per Number - $120 per Spin – Gain $240 on a win and lose $120 on a loss.

Spin Number | Number | Cumulative  Profit

1 | 2 | -120
2 | 27 | -240
3 | 19 | -360
4 |24 | -480
5 | 4 | -600
6 | 12 | -360
7 | 33 |  -480
8 | 22 | -240
9 | 20 | -360
10 | 8 | -480
11 | 8 | -600
12 | 25 | -720
13 | 36 | -840
14 | 2 | -960
15 | 33 | -1080
16 | 22 | -840
17 | 22 | -600
18 | 25 | -360
19 | 27 | -480
20 | 3 | -240
21 | 35 | 0
22 | 25 | -120
23 | 6 | -240
24 | 3 | 0
25 | 15 | +240
26 | 18 | +480
27 | 27 | +360
28 | 6 | +240
29 | 15 | +480
30 | 25 | +360
31 | 35 | +240
32 | 20 | +120
33 | 13 | 0
34 | 32 | +240
35 | 8 |+120
36 | 1 | 0
37 | 32 |+240
38 | 28 | +480
39 | 31| +360
40 | 6 | +240
41 | 8 | +120
42 | 9 | 0
43 | 16 | -120
44 | 22 | +120
45 | 3 | +360
46 | 30 | +240
47 | 34 | +120
48 | 36 | 0
49 | 11 | -120
50 | 2 | -240

Now as mentioned in my first post.

There are to ways the game will go - you'll make your profit and stop on the 25th spins or you will make our profit towards the 50th spin.

And as mentioned before you have to call the shots as to when to stop. In this case when i was betting i stopped at spin number 39 and thought that it wont get much better by the 50th spins - which it didn't, however to prove why i said to be careful and to show why you must stop between your 35 - 45 th spin i kept playing...

...and i became quite clear why. If i had betting all the way to my 50th spin i would have been down 240 dollars.

At the end it landed me #360 profit bringing my total bank to #7,163.05.

To be honest I'd rank this game at around my 3rd worst out of 12 -15 tries using this system. Despite making profit, it was a hard game and it wouldn't rise of 480. In some games (this make 3 like this now) i've noticed there is a point where your bank will REFUSE to get any bigger - so i take the winnings and be happy.

After all my test took 1 hour 15 mins at an almost empty table and to make 360/1.25 = ~$290 per hour your doing okay (even more so when you remember this was a bad game and normally you can make 1 -1.3K on average).

To date ive still yet to suffer a loss with this system and it holds my number 1 spot for the moment and after searching the internet for others i still have this one as 1st.

[size=18]SUMMARY[/size]

Here I'll summarize my system if you are to busy to read the "fascinating" math involved - however if you only read this and ask a question i do advise that you read the whole thing as it most likely is already answered and just missed in my condensed version.

1. Get a picture of a Roulette wheel and put a tick  near the number that is spun and keep charting like this for 25 Spins.

2. Once done look on the wheel for a 12 number SECTOR that has 1 or less (none) hits - if not look for 2 hits then 3, but i do advise that if  you find 3 hits at least, you should re chart of go to a different table - or better to chart 2 at once and pick the best.

3. Once the 12 number group is recognized, write the numbers in the sector in ascending order - this helps in placing bets (ALOT!!!)

4. If you had 1 hit on your dozen from charting, wait in "virtual" play until it gets hit then continue. If you had 2 hits in charting you may choose to skip this virtual (more risky though) and if you had 3 hits you CAN skip this virtual play and move on.

5. Now flat bet on those numbers for 25 spins (1 bet could be the table limit if bank permits).

6. If you don't make any profit on the first 25 spins play for another 25 BUT get ready to stop when you notice your bank will refuse to raise or you notice it has peaked and is going down (usually on the 25 - 45 spin).

7. Go home with about 1000 profit per "game" on average with a 10 bet on each number!!!

A final note is that 50 spins after charting, the wheel is "invalid" and now must be recharted - however i stick to 1 game a day and i'm happy.

Lastly, Even on this S#%T game ive had here - if i played at 50 dollars per number i would have made 1800 profit and if i was getting results that i normally expect (ie. 8 to 10 times the amount betted as profit) and @ 50 per bet i could make 6k in an hour and a bit!!!

Good Luck!!!

Questions are welcome.

admin

Oh! I have a question -and a tip.




Question:

Why didn't you use any of the new smilies? [smiley=1/ohnoes.gif]
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196493085 <- New smilies here.




hehe, no seriously, I give you a big kudos on this one. Just like Lucky Strike says, after 3 Standard Deviations things do not look that random.

Furthermore, this is a form of SITUATIONAL PLAY, and it uses a TIMELINE of 25 to 50 spins. I love it [smiley=3/appl.gif]

The 1-spin gurus would curse this approach now. But nah, just keep on mate [smiley=3/dweeba5.gif]




Tip:

You guys can track this one easily using Roulette Xtreme by configuring it to view last 25 spins till you get proper betting signal.

First Options/Configure:



Then you need to check the "Calculate graphical statics using XYZ spins", and edit it to 25:





Well, it is here, a fine system from AP, now go [smiley=3/rape.gif] that casino [smiley=3/viking.gif]
Victor

Advantage.Player

Nice ill use that the help test my system further as its much quicker then dublin bet [smiley=thumbup.gif]

Advantage.Player

QuoteOh! I have a question -and a tip.

The 1-spin gurus would curse this approach now. But nah, just keep on mate [smiley=3/dweeba5.gif]

Victor

The one spin gurus  :o  who think each and every roulette spins is an independent event are completely correct - and its it this exact fact that makes our outcome flow a bell curve graph which suggest multiple spins (at the right time) are effective systems.

roger

Interesting,  If you look how often look  the numbers would fall on a roulette tabel then with this system you should be able to make much profit, but to see if I understand you clear, you have to bet on 12 independent number of a section of 12 nummber just like a normal dozen?  [smiley=undecided.gif]

Advantage.Player

Yes you have to bet on 12 independent numbers.

Ill throw in one more example later today

hermes

QuoteYes you have to bet on 12 independent numbers.

Ill throw in one more example later today

Agvantage.Player, could you be so kind at next example to place first the 25 scanned numbers from which one you chose the 12 apostles?  [smiley=engel017.gif] Just for imagination. Your system reminds me much on John's Solitude Raindrop system.  It is a bright idea.
Hermes  [smiley=dankk2.gif]

Advantage.Player

Okay ill add that too and my numbers will be off Dublin bet like my first example

pauljwpa

hi what is the 12 number sector (what numbers are these) [smiley=embarassed.gif]

MattyMattz

Hey AP - I like this approach but in my testing so far I haven't seen a sector of 12 numbers get hit less than 5 times.  

Maybe I'm doing something wrong.  I'll wait for your next example.

Cheers,
Matt

cps10

AP

Are you scanning the entire wheel for a 1-hit 12-number sector? That would make 37 12-number sectors on a Single-Zero wheel and 38 12-number sectors on a Double-Zero wheel. I think in that theory there are more than enough opportunities to win!

Thanks for this system!

Gilbey

Can be a long wait to get a sector with 3 or less hits

Advantage.Player

QuoteAP

Are you scanning the entire wheel for a 1-hit 12-number sector? That would make 37 12-number sectors on a Single-Zero wheel and 38 12-number sectors on a Double-Zero wheel. I think in that theory there are more than enough opportunities to win!

Thanks for this system!

Yup were looking at the whole wheel - this gives us as you said 37 to 38 (according to wheel) possibilities for a sector to play.

@pauljwpa

The 12 number sector is a area of the wheel (12 numbers in size) that is derived from charting the last 25 spins and then looking at the wheel and seeing which group of 12 numbers has the least amount of hits (from 0 to 3 hits to be able to play the system - if you have 0 hits in that sector pretend to play on them and once they hit start betting as according. If you have 2 hits on the sector you can skip this "Waiting for a hit" but it may be more risky and if you have 3 hits on the sector you can start betting after 25 spins of charting).

I had all my papers ready to type up after playing on Dublin bet but i lost them  >:( :'( - ill have to re try my system so the example may be delayed a short while.

Advantage.Player

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