## Four Spins to Win System - Played with Real Money at Go Casino - See Inside

Started by rjeaton1, May 15, 2009, 05:57:46 PM

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#### simon

I understand Viper, just trying to show a little respect.  I said I understand now what Robert's "thinking" is, not that I understand why it would work... or not.  I know that, unfortunately, there is a mathematical principle that can be calculated and will show that all bets won and lost due to waiting, or not waiting, will even out and the house edge will prevail.  unfortunately.  but I do not fully understand Robert's betting progression and he is being good enough to explain it to me, so I will reserve judgement at this point in time.

#### rjeaton1

Quote from: viper5 on May 16, 2009, 10:42:03 AM
I was going to post that

simon and number 6 understands....

but only number 6 understands!

lol

RJ
if u can t understand(which u don t)
test the way I told u for 1100 spins...and u will see that u will have the same resaults!

Alright, I went ahead and did so there Viper.  I placed bets on 15 different numbers (because you said it doesn't matter which ones) and spun the 1,100 times.  If anybody is intersted in the results I have attached the betting history below.  (Not to ruin the suspense, but my ending BR was -1,246 units.  So not quite the same results their viper).

There is a .txt file and .xls file (for those with different tastes.)

#### rjeaton1

Here we go guys, I just finished my fifth session (1st one today, 5th cumalitive since yesterday) 35 minute session at Go Casino for today, and here are my results:

35 minutes of play time (had to play a little longer this time, it was slow going at first), 228 spins of the wheel, 15 sessions won, 2 sessions lost, for a total profit of +\$141!!

My BR is now \$1,150 from the \$500 I had in there yesterday!!!!!!  That's right, \$650 made since yesterday!!!!!

Again, for those of you who don't believe me there will be a download link for this video soon.  The download link for session 4 (my last session yesterday) will be finished uploading in 27 minutes for those of you who wish to view it.

Enjoy!

#### rjeaton1

I am trying to persevere through this sea of negativity it seems we're having here at the forum.  I've said before I have no problem with oppostion, but talking down to people and sheer negativity (without anything I.E. - testing results, or any input on how to better the system, etc.) is uncalled for.  I came to this forum for a reason.  That reason being enouragement or constructive criticism.

Please, can we keep it two one of those two things?

#### Tangram

QuoteBy all means test it. When it fails you've got something that doesn't work, so you've moved one step closer to finding something that does work.

That's the illusion - that you're moving closer. In reality you aren't. Trying to design a winning roulette system is a bit like trying to violate the law of conservation of energy in physics. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. Similarly the game of roulette is a closed "system", you can't zap those losing sequences out of existence, all you can do is shift them from one part of the "system" to another. There are an endless number of systems that can be created, but they all share the same structure, so in that sense there's no difference between any of them. I don't blame people for trying though, because it seems plausible that with enough skill, knowledge, persistence etc, there is a holy grail out there to be found. Sadly it's not the case, but you're unlikely to "believe" that unless you understand the structure that all systems share. If you don't "get it", no need to feel bad, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're stupid. Did you know that Sir Isaac Newton, one of the greatest and smartest scientists who has ever lived, spent the greater part of his life trying to create the philosopher's stone? This was a stone thought to be capable of turning base metals into gold. Even genius's have blind spots, it's part of the human condition.

#### rjeaton1

I'm sorry guys, but this thread has turned into a conversation about more of "why all roulette systems fail (not even this one in particular, but all of them)" than the system itself.  Should I just leave?

#### rjeaton1

I thought that actually testing my system with REAL money would help to push the "Full Systems" thread in the right direction, however it appears to have done the exact opposite.

#### celiza427

Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 16, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
Here we go guys, I just finished my first 35 minute session at Go Casino for today, and here are my results:

35 minutes of play time (had to play a little longer this time, it was slow going at first), 228 spins of the wheel, 15 sessions won, 2 sessions lost, for a total profit of +\$141!!

My BR is now \$1,150 from the \$500 I had in there yesterday!!!!!!  That's right, \$650 made since yesterday!!!!!

Again, for those of you who don't believe me there will be a download link for this video soon.  The download link for session 4 (my last session yesterday) will be finished uploading in 27 minutes for those of you who wish to view it.

Enjoy!

Great stuff!  Also good to hear I'm playing it right.  I had yet to watch the videos, my connection was achingly slow last night so I didn't get them d/led til midnight and I had to get some sleep too.  So I'm off to watch the first 3 right now.

For all those that still have questions about the way I played - I leave the chips on the numbers until a win then before I spin again I retrack the last 33 spins (adding however many it took for me to win - ie I won on my second bet, then I would add the 2 newest numbers and remove the 2 oldest to get my 33 spin count)  If at that moment I have 20 or less unique (ie numbers that have hit) then I have a betting opportunity which is why you see the 1, 1, 2, 1, 1 bets in a row.

#### Number Six

Quote from: Tangram
That's the illusion - that you're moving closer. In reality you aren't. Trying to design a winning roulette system is a bit like trying to violate the law of conservation of energy in physics. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. Similarly the game of roulette is a closed "system", you can't zap those losing sequences out of existence, all you can do is shift them from one part of the "system" to another. There are an endless number of systems that can be created, but they all share the same structure, so in that sense there's no difference between any of them. I don't blame people for trying though, because it seems plausible that with enough skill, knowledge, persistence etc, there is a holy grail out there to be found. Sadly it's not the case, but you're unlikely to "believe" that unless you understand the structure that all systems share. If you don't "get it", no need to feel bad, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're stupid. Did you know that Sir Isaac Newton, one of the greatest and smartest scientists who has ever lived, spent the greater part of his life trying to create the philosopher's stone? This was a stone thought to be capable of turning base metals into gold. Even genius's have blind spots, it's part of the human condition.

The point is: purely ruled-based systems DEPEND on randomness to be kind to them. When you've found one that doesn't work, you cross it off the list. The list is massive, but not infinate. Now, what happens is the list gets smaller, but only an idiot will get to the very end of the list without finding something that works for them. Somewhere along the line they will become a more seasoned player and realise, probably subconsciously, that everything on the list is flawed. They start to explore other areas of the game, understanding WHY that last system didn't work. Eventually they will settle on a particular principle in the game and dissect it from all directions. Turn it inside out, rearrange it, put it under the microscope. Knowing why methods don't work and accepting that is not an illusion. Becoming a better player IS getting closer.

#### Number Six

Quote from: rjeaton1
This thread has turned into a conversation about more of "why all roulette systems fail (not even this one in particular, but all of them)" than the system itself.

This is an everlasting and recurring theme on every roulette forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#### rjeaton1

Quote from: rjeaton1 on May 15, 2009, 10:44:37 PM
Alright, I just finished "sit down number 4" at Go Casino here are the stats:

21 minutes long, 101 spins, 10 sessions won, 2 sessions lost for a total profit of +\$146

That's a total of 87 minutes of playtime today, 525 spins of the wheel, 41 sessions won, 2 sessions lost (consistent with my 1,100 spin test data so far, except a little more money made.  But lost to won session ratio is about the same.)

My BR is now \$1,009!!!!!!!!

I have now made \$500 today!!!!  WahHOoo!

Again, for the naysayers or those that don't believe me, please download the videos.  I will have video #3 up in 33 minutes (roughly) and I will then upload this one (again, I know their big, but they are certainly worth watchin!)....well, they encourage me anyway, lol.

Enjoy!

#### viper5

lol
RJ
I think that u can t understand anything at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how could be beting 15 nums be more powerfull than 17~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have never told u to do tests with 15 nums............

I just told u not to track nums and bet random!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHEN U WILL DO RANDOM TESTS WITH 17 NUMS BETTED(AS U DO)THEN U WILL SEE THAT U WILL HAVE THE SAME RESAULTS!!!!!!!!!!!

@NUMBER 6 ....I KNOW THE ROULETTE!!!!  END OF STORIE!!!!U ARE SMART.....AND ACCURATE
@TANGRAM U ARE GOOD TOO

#### Shorty

Viper, he will not have the same results... Are you saying that if I bet 17 numbers I would always be up +650 after 1k+ spins? No, I really think that you do not have a clue about roulette at all. Let the topic be, I enjoy watching people take money from the casinos, don't you?

#### simon

QuoteMy BR is now \$1,150 from the \$500 I had in there yesterday!!!!!!  That's right, \$650 made since yesterday!!!!!

... well you can't argue with success.  I am keen to learn the correct betting progression Robert and hope you will keep me informed.

#### viper5

@SHORTY
he will have the same resaults as soon as he descover the average winings-loses
of cource I anjoy someone taking money from a casino!!!!its an orgasm  lol.........but here with maths systems....this haven t happend and never will!!!!!

@rj.....

be happy now with ur winnings.....
I never said that the chips u win is a lie!!!!

but if u will not stop now playing ur system!!!!!

u will find out the truth of this system with the hard way!!!!

all ur chips will go away!!!!!!

my systems won hundrets/thousants of chips in the beginning and a lot of other systems did that too.....
but in the end the edje of roulette always win...

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