Any Details on these 2 systems?

[bloomone2002]

Does anyone have any details or experience on the 31 system or any of the methods in the Gamble to win Roulette book by Ellison?

Does anyone have any details or experience with Ivor's Staking Plan?


Thanks

[admin]

Hello Bloomone,

Would you mind posting them here (in your own words) those betting schemes?

Thanks a bunch, it will enrich the forum and then some people may use it and provide further feedback.

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[atlantis]

Hi,

The 31 system as I understand it is a parlay bet:  1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, 4, 8, 8 (total 31 units)

Cheers,
Atlantis.

[bloomone2002]

Hi,

The 31 system as I understand it is a parlay bet:  1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, 4, 8, 8 (total 31 units)

Cheers,
Atlantis.

Thanks Atlantis, do you have a sample sessions or a description of the entire system with bet strategy?

[atlantis]

Hi Bloomone2002,

It is strategy for evens chances. So, first bet is 1 unit. If win on first bet, restart at 1 unit. If lose the first bet go to next bet(s) in progression (1 unit again) ... When a win occurs you need to parlay the win eg. play same stake + any winnings. (ie. double previous bet). Should the parlay win then restart at bet 1; else if it loses go to next step in progression, remembering you always need to parlay after a win (except if it is a first bet winner). After a winning parlay restart at bet 1.

That's it, er... I think.

A.

[atlantis]

Here is example using RXtreme single 0.

For the bet selection : When 3 consecutive same colours appear I will play the OPPOSITE.
I will stop when +10 or when a  full 31 units lost.

Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
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1,'10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,'29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,'2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,'25,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Red

won first bet; restart

5,'11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
6,'32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
7,'29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
8,'27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
9,'11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
10,'3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
11,'31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
12,'15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
13,'17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
14,'32,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red

won first bet; restart

15,'34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
16,'13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
17,'2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
18,'35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
19,'13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Red

lost first bet

20,'34,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Red

won second bet; parlay next bet

21,'35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
22,'22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
23,'5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
24,'34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
25,'32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
26,'16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : Black

lost parlay; play third bet

27,'7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Black

lost third bet

28,'21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : Black

lost fourth bet

29,'10,Bet,2,4,-2,2,499,2 : Black

won fifth bet; parlay next bet

30,'14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
31,'4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
32,'21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
33,'29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
34,'25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
35,'4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
36,'0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
37,'9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
38,'16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
39,'29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
40,'36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
41,'5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
42,'18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
43,'2,Bet,4,8,-4,4,503,4 : Black

won parlay; restart

44,'21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
45,'34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
46,'5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
47,'20,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Black

won first bet; restart

48,'4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
49,'16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
50,'25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
51,'35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
52,'25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
53,'12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
54,'36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
55,'14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Black

lost first bet

56,'0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,502.5,1 : Black

lost second bet (zero)

57,'9,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501.5,1 : Black

lost third bet

58,'13,Bet,2,4,-2,2,503.5,2 : Black

won fourth bet; parlay next bet

59,'25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
60,'25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
61,'20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
62,'19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
63,'5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
64,'1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
65,'7,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,499.5,4 : Black

lost parlay

66,'28,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501.5,2 : Black

won fifth bet; parlay next bet

67,'7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
68,'3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
69,'18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
70,'34,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,497.5,4 : Black

lost parlay

71,'33,Bet,4,8,-4,4,501.5,4 : Black

won sixth bet; parlay next bet

72,'21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
73,'30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
74,'11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
75,'18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
76,'34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
77,'8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
78,'21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
79,'7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
80,'25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
81,'33,Bet,8,16,-8,8,509.5,8 : Black

won parlay; restart

82,'1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
83,'31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
84,'20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
85,'27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
86,'8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
87,'20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
88,'16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
89,'12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
90,'5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
91,'36,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508.5,1 : Black

lost first bet

92,'29,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509.5,1 : Black

won second bet; parlay next bet

93,'15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
94,'6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509.5,
95,'2,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,507.5,2 : Red

lost parlay

96,'13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506.5,1 : Red

lost third bet

97,'19,Bet,2,4,-2,2,508.5,2 : Red

won fourth bet; parlay next bet

98,'6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508.5,
99,'15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508.5,
100,'8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508.5,
101,'3,Bet,4,8,-4,4,512.5,4 : Red

won parlay. STOP

won 12.5 units.
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A.

[bloomone2002]

Thanks atlantis, i will have to test this system. Has this system been profitable for you?

[bloomone2002]

Does anyone have any details about the Ivor staking plan?

[atlantis]

Hi bloomone2002,

I actually tried it in real casino on r.n.g. machine (alfastreet - airball roulette) tonite and won 12 units... playing exactly as I described in above post..
It took me about an hour and a half. I used £1 units and put bank of £40 into the slot to start.. I'm happy to report that luckily my balance never went below the £40 too
It is a slow system; but easy and comfortable to play.

Remember if you lose the full 31 units it still might not be a total write-off as you may have amassed some units before the unfortunate loss occurs.

I was monitoring 1 other "real" table linked to the machine also switching between them to get more bet opportunities.

A.

[bloomone2002]

Congrads Atlantis, that is good news. All the best in the long run. Relative from input to output over the time period, that was about 9 units per hour, which is pretty good. I would be interested with how it holds up for you. all the best

[atlantis]

Hi bloomone2002,

Here are results for Wiesbaden real spins for 12/04/2008:

• Table 1: +7 in 80 spins (no more spins available)
  
• Table 2: +14.5 in 167 spins
  
• Table 3: +10 in 138 spins
  
• Table 4: +13 in 39 spins
  
• Table 5: +10 in 68 spins
  
• Table 6: -23 in 108 spins
  
• Table 7: +11 in 93 spins
  

Cheers,
Atlantis

[bloomone2002]

Thanks for sharing Atlantis, that is still a very good start.

[caddy]

Atlantis,

Are you saying for example--that afer 3 reds you bet black until you win a parlay or go bust?

[atlantis]

Hi Caddy,

The way I was playing it was to wait for 3 consecutive same colors then bet the opposite until a win or go bust...

Assuming a win I would AGAIN wait for 3 consecutive same colours before continuing with the required parlay bet on the opposite color.

If the parlay is won then restart. (wait for 3 reds/blacks)

If the parlay lost then go to next stage of progression and continue betting same colour until a win.

After a win I waited for 3 consecutive same colours to occur again before attempting the parlay bet.. etc.

This is only how I was playing it - there probably must be better method.

I'm interested in any better/safer bet selection that might be useful on this

A.

[gizmo]

Hi Caddy,

The way I was playing it was to wait for 3 consecutive same colors then bet the opposite until a win or go bust...

Assuming a win I would AGAIN wait for 3 consecutive same colours before continuing with the required parlay bet on the opposite color.

If the parlay is won then restart. (wait for 3 reds/blacks)

If the parlay lost then go to next stage of progression and continue betting same colour until a win.

After a win I waited for 3 consecutive same colours to occur again before attempting the parlay bet.. etc.

This is only how I was playing it - there probably must be better method.

I'm interested in any better/safer bet selection that might be useful on this

A.

Maybe using the DBL method instead of waiting for a red/black sequence.

[gizmo]

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