Laws of roulette

[rob567]

There are some basic laws you have to account for in designing any system in roulette.

1. House edge exists, like it or not.

2. Progressions do not work, they cannot eliminate house edge, therefore they are redundant.

3. The results are random in the long run. baised wheels will be fixed, a croupier with a signiture will go home and the guy who owns the RNG wheel will program it to take his money back and yours as well.

4. Looking for patterns within randomness as an answer in itself just because you saw them on the side of an Aztec temple is akin to astrology.

5. Roulette is about mathematics. Specifically stochcastic probability and distribution. The answer lies within that and how you can manipulate the dataset to potentially predict the outcome above the rate of chance. Not to actually expect to get it right all the time.

Futility is repeating the same thing over and over and getting the same result. All of the solutions I have seen to roulette are variations of the same thing.

[admin]

All of the solutions I have seen to roulette are variations of the same thing.

Some people die without even seeing any solution, and you have seen more than one! Hooray!

[Arteinvivo]

There are some basic laws you have to account for in designing any system in roulette.

1. House edge exists, like it or not.

or not.

[rob567]

sorry Arteinvivo

I have yet to see a mathematically proven ellimination of the house edge. You may do better than the predicted house edge for a limited time, but if you can't give support of it by math then ultimately it will claim back what it hasn't taken allready.

I say that with one  reservation, there is a way to negate house edge though play but it doesn't mathematically elliminate house edge, the edge is still there.

Monte Carlo

[Toothpaste]

Yes, math shows us that eventually we will lose no matter what we will play. But, mathematics also say that earth will be lost in crash with asteroid eventually.

And house edge exists, yes, but we choose when to play and when not, and house edge exists globally, not locally, so we got chance to avoid it if we're careful

[geoff365]

Pick the right fruit from the tree and the house edge does not interfere. 8-)

[Lanky]

There are some basic laws you have to account for in designing any system in roulette.

1. House edge exists, like it or not.

2. Progressions do not work, they cannot eliminate house edge, therefore they are redundant.

3. The results are random in the long run. baised wheels will be fixed, a croupier with a signiture will go home and the guy who owns the RNG wheel will program it to take his money back and yours as well.

4. Looking for patterns within randomness as an answer in itself just because you saw them on the side of an Aztec temple is akin to astrology.

5. Roulette is about mathematics. Specifically stochcastic probability and distribution. The answer lies within that and how you can manipulate the dataset to potentially predict the outcome above the rate of chance. Not to actually expect to get it right all the time.

Futility is repeating the same thing over and over and getting the same result. All of the solutions I have seen to roulette are variations of the same thing.

Hello Mate.

Rest Assured that When I get better.

You & I are going to lock horns over some of those ridiculous statements you have made.

Like This

Futility is repeating the same thing over and over and getting the same result.

[highlight]That's How a lot of us Win.....the more it Repeats the better it is.....for Time line Players at least[/highlight].

[highlight]And This was the grand Daddy of then all.[/highlight]

All of the solutions I have seen to roulette are variations of the same thing.

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Your Friend

Lanky

[iggy]

Hello Mate.

Rest Assured that When I get better.  

You & I are going to lock horns over some of those ridiculous statements you have made.

HaHaHaHa  -  Lanky is back.

iggy

[rob567]

Lanky I am always open to intelligent arguement of ideas.

I stand by all 5 of those laws until convinced I am wrong. Please feel free to try to change that.

As for my comment:

"Futility is repeating the same thing over and over and getting the same result. All of the solutions I have seen to roulette are variations of the same thing."

First of all don't decontextualize, both sentences belong together.

Second, I stand by that also. I have yet to see a system that doesn't give me the same answer. A death by a thousand cuts is still a death, it just takes longer to get there.

Monte Carlo


BTW I hope that your health is getting better, I look forward to our discussion when you feel ready to proceed.

[Lanky]

Hi Mate

Yes I am Looking forward to our little discussion as well.

As for this

First of all don't decontextualize, both sentences belong together.

I did no such thing......There were two sentences....that need to be addressed separately in my humble Opinion.

The two sentences are

"Futility is repeating the same thing over and over and getting the same result. All of the solutions I have seen to roulette are variations of the same thing."  

Unless I am mistaken then there is a full stop after the word (result.)

Then the 2nd sentence needs to be addressed on its own.

If however you feel that would be unfair to You by Me doing it that way.

[highlight]Then You should not have written it.[/highlight]

[highlight]Funny how Victor picked up on the last sentence in a previous post & you didn't whine about that then.[/highlight]

Any way I don't want to start there with you .

I want to when I am a little better start further up your list.

And Thank you for your kind words about my Healing.

I am sure that we are going to enjoy each-others company in the future.

[highlight]By the way Mate how do you play the game of Roulette ??
VB etc ?
Just a Brief description will do Cobber.[/highlight]
Your Friend

Lanky

[admin]

By the way Mate how do you play the game of Roulette ??

My bet is carlo is tracking sequential spins, making a line of events, being a "timeline player" too Lionel!

He seems to be like a hawk, waiting for the right moment without betting, getting in and achieving target to stop (or in case he doesn't, it still is a recoupable loss, as the bet per attack is not a huge amount of bankroll).

Of course, he doesn't use a progression on his play.

This is what I have grasped, my best bet, but better to let him explain. To me the hints he has provided about his play remind me of something... I have seen that type of phylosophy before... cut point methodology.

The ball is in your court dear M. Carlo.

Your friend,
Victor

[rob567]

Lanky said:

"Unless I am mistaken then there is a full stop after the word (result.)"

thats in reference to this said my myself:

"Futility is repeating the same thing over and over and getting the same result. All of the solutions I have seen to roulette are variations of the same thing."

That full stop as you refer to it is commonly called a period. In the words before it you will find a noun, a verb and a object (which is also a noun). Together they form a sentence and that requires a period. Another example can be found directly after the period behind the word result. The reason the period is there is because of grammar.

Lanky said:

"I did no such thing (decontextualize)......There were two sentences...."

Yes there is two sentences and as you will also note they follow each other directly to form what is called a paragraph. By definition a paragraph (from the Greek paragraphos, "to write beside" or "written beside") is a self-contained unit of a discourse in writing dealing with a particular point or idea.

Lanky said:

"Then the 2nd sentence needs to be addressed on its own. If however you feel that would be unfair to You by Me doing it that way. Then You should not have written it."

I did as a paragraph. Therefore they should not need to be addressed seperately.

Lanky said:

"Funny how Victor picked up on the last sentence in a previous post & you didn't whine about that then."

this is in reference to what Victor said:

"Some people die without even seeing any solution, and you have seen more than one! Hooray!"

Victor was being tongue in cheek. I have no objection to humor.

what you originally said was:

"You & I are going to lock horns over some of those [highlight]ridiculous statements [/highlight] you have made. Like this"

Which was in reference to the original futility statement. This I would regard as no less than needlessly aggressive.

Now lets wipe the slate clean and start over from the beginning.

Monte Carlo

[TwoCatSam]

Welcome back, Lank.  Glad to see they didn't cut out that fire in your gut!

Monte, I read it this way:  One form if insanity to repeat the same action and expect a different result.  If you continually hit your thumb with a hammer expecting a knot to form on your head, you're crazy.  In more than one way.........  (Tongue firmly placed in cheek."

I relish the thought of two intelligent men debating and the whole forum winning.

Darn, I'm glad I came back!!

Sam

[Lanky]

Gees Monte

All I asked was on simple Question...As Below

[highlight]By the way Mate how do you play the game of Roulette ??
VB etc ?
Just a Brief description will do Cobber. [/highlight]

Mate Fair Dinkum you would make Fred Astaire Blush with the fancy footwork you used to avoid that Question.
And it would appear that the Reducing Volatility Thread is suffering the same fate.

Mate I did not ask for an English or a Greek Lesson.

And Monte Remember this mate You are talking to probably the stupidest person ever to play Roulette.

So I can't Compete with You on an Academic Level.

You are far too clever for me in that regard.
So take it easy on Old Lanky with the big words mate.

See the only word I could I understand in those impressive arsenal of words that You used was the word Period.

Period I Understand My Wife use to get that once a month.

And during that time if the Neighbours cat up the road had Kittens I would get the blame for it.

Or if a bloody bird flew within a 100 mile radius and looked the wrong way at Her I would get the blame for putting the bird up to it.

Even the dog would hide for a week as soon as the 21st of the month came around.

Also during that time she would say some silly things.
Like I was getting aggressive with Her
Or something could not be done because of this & that reason.

In the end and after this Delightful week had passed and the dog came out of hiding I was able to explain to Her why things could work if you looked at it differently & or delved deeper into why it happens because its been happening that way since the 17th Century. She would then consider my side of it.

I hope You don't live Your life on these 28 day cycles Monte.
Otherwise this conversation between us is about to heat up My Friend.

On My next post I will tackle that particular statement of Yours that I found a little out of whack.

But as You said in your last post to Me.

Lets now wipe the Slate clean & start again.

Your Friend

Lanky

[bloomone2002]

Welcome back Lanky, get well soon
Bloom

[bloomone2002]

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