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What is a trend ?

Started by I have cookies, March 16, 2011, 03:59:09 PM

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I have cookies

What is a trend ?

It might sound stupid - but I assume a trend is about any kind of combination or formation that will continue to flow in same behavior - witch mean that some one would try to ride it and gain some units.

Is that the definition of a trend and trending ?

How would you define the word trend and trending !

Cheers

gizmotron

A trend is when a website forum becomes just like GG, Gambler's Glen.

darrynf

Never been to GG, havent herd anything good about it though.

i think you are right cookie but i dont think you have to ride a trend to capture it.

for an example my system uses a trend, but its more of the same thing happening. where the strike rate is about 50/50, 2 or 3 losses in a row or 5 and 6 losses in a row is common.

but it evens it self out over the 30 spins and tends to be 50/50 on average for the strike rate. anyway thats what i see and this dosent change much.

thats just one example i see with my system.

"a trend is about any kind of combination or formation that will continue to flow in same behavior " so yes i believe you are right cookie.

MauiSunset

In  Roulette there are NO trends - just figments of your imagination.

Trends do exist where past data does reflect on future events - the trend.

Since past random numbers from a Roulette wheel or RNG have NO influence on future events there can be no trends.

darrynf

@ maui

your second and third sentence contradicts it self.


the second sentence is a good way to say it.

but  trends is just a play method, away of playing roulette, just like guessing. theres no voodoo in it, just a way of playing.
if people win great, if they lose then thats roulette for you.

gizmotron

Quote from: MauiSunset on March 16, 2011, 05:34:33 PM
In  Roulette there are NO trends - just figments of your imagination.

Trends do exist where past data does reflect on future events - the trend.

Since past random numbers from a Roulette wheel or RNG have NO influence on future events there can be no trends.

What a load of newbie shit that is. The world according to MauiSunset says there is no such thing as a trend in Roulette. There's "technical analysis" for trending in the stock market. I guess MauiSunset has not put his foot down in that world yet. Why not?  If an idiot has his head buried in the sand then that makes him qualified to expose the wonders of the world?  NOT! Following the wisdom of MauiSunset is almost dangerous to your well being. This clown wants you to trust him. You had better ask yourself why. I just chose to let him shack up with cheese. There's trend we never saw coming.

darrynf

im pretty sure maui said he dose stock market with a 60% successe rate.

hes not some one i trust either. but then again i dont really care much for what he says any more.

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: MauiSunset on March 16, 2011, 05:34:33 PM
In  Roulette there are NO trends - just figments of your imagination.

Trends do exist where past data does reflect on future events - the trend.

Since past random numbers from a Roulette wheel or RNG have NO influence on future events there can be no trends.

Sorry to be so blunt but you talk a load of shit. You have have no idea in what you are talking about. I only wounder how you have over 300 posts.

If I run you over in my car, is that random? NO, its due to cause and affect. How the hell do you think Joe Jagger beat this game?, ritz team etc. Its being beaten right now as we speak!

The word "random" is invalid

Roulette is not random, for heaven sake do some proper research.

James.

James.

bombus

They do occur, but whatever the trend is, more often than not by the time you identify it, it is probably almost over.

Trend identification is not going to help you much.

I think trend anticipation is where the money is.

So learning to see all manner of trends in the past tense could help wire your brain (perception) for evaluating what trend is more likely to evolve in the next so many spins.

pins

if you throw a ball  the same patterns appear. but if you win at roulette its pure chance. i won for the last three days.  can i gurantee winning today no is the answer. the dealer is about to throw the ball. some body wants change. the result is different. no body can predict the next spin.

MauiSunset

Trends must mean something in order for them to be used.

Just because we think we see a trend, doesn't mean that trend is useful.

Our brain is a pattern matching organic computer - one of the things built into it is the ability to find trends; you can't help but find patterns and from those patterns trends are found.

That's how all life forms have evolved with their brains - how they hunt, evade predators, and form communities.

I saw a Tsunami a few days ago in Maui - I watched the ocean recede 100 yards and then come in - a 1 foot Tsunami in action; I saw 8 of these in 2 hours.  That's the pattern/trend of a Tsunami - well documented.

Look at the output of a RNG, either a Roulette wheel or software, and you will see all kinds of patterns and trends - they mean nothing.  There is no way to predict future spins from past spins in Roulette since a RNG is involved.

It would be like taking an handful of sand and throwing it on the table - you will see all kinds of patterns and from those you could draw lines and find trends to the next similar pattern.  Those patterns and trends mean nothing to the next handful of sand you throw on another table.

This is all called Gambler's Fallacy and it afflicts many of you here - you use this bunk to form systems that produce bunk and when you lose you cry "the casino is cheating".

That's the pattern and trend I see from you folks who believe in RNGs producing trends - all bunk, all the time.....

MauiSunset

Quote from: ReDsQuaD on March 16, 2011, 06:11:22 PM
Sorry to be so blunt but you talk a load of shit. You have have no idea in what you are talking about. I only wounder how you have over 300 posts.

If I run you over in my car, is that random? NO, its due to cause and affect. How the hell do you think Joe Jagger beat this game?, ritz team etc. Its being beaten right now as we speak!

The word "random" is invalid

Roulette is not random, for heaven sake do some proper research.

James.

James.

Prove it!

Prove that Roulette is not random - show some proper research.

Show me a link to any scientific journal where the have investigated Roulette and found it is not random.

You guys just spout crazy ideas left and right and have NO science or math to back up these insane claims.

Show me the link...

ReDsQuaD

Quote from: MauiSunset on March 16, 2011, 06:59:57 PM
Prove it!

Prove that Roulette is not random - show some proper research.

Show me a link to any scientific journal where the have investigated Roulette and found it is not random.

You guys just spout crazy ideas left and right and have NO science or math to back up these insane claims.

Show me the link...

What do you mean prove it?? It has been proved. Are you stupid?

Why the hell shal I do research for you? That just proves you have done ZERO research about roulette, you are lazy or plain stupid and your attitude sucks.

If you want proper research, go find it for yourself.

You say math, well roulette cannot be beaten with mathematics. That to me again tells me you have no idea in what you are talking about.

James.

Psolaras

Hi !
I was reading this Topic and I am amazed from the post of RedQuad !
So you mean that the game of roulette has been beaten and there is also proof?  :o

shadowman

James
I think you and Maui have crossed wires, I beleive that he is not talking about the physics aspects of the game but rather the random aspect and the so called trends that many believe that they can use to predict the the course of the next few decisions. As I am sure that you realise jaggers used the physics of the wheel rather than random outcomes.

If you beleive that you can forecast trends within random then I too would love you to point me in the right direction as I have researched roulette quite a bit and have only found self deception or double speak in respect of prediction of trends random sequences

shadowman

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